Which theories & explanations make the most sense?

a puzzleSo far, the two leading theories are that we’re “sliding” between parallel (or similar) realities, or that we’ve visited holodecks (and may be in one, right now) that have some glitches.

However, those concepts are broad. I’ve been trying to narrow the possibilities.

Initially, I’ve been searching for commonalities:

Locations in general, in case this aligns with a theory like vile vortices.

Location-specific memories, including alternate geography. (Locations could also help identify simple, regional media errors, including the TAPS v. Ghost Hunters issue.)

Years when more reality shifts seemed to happen, and specific dates. (So far, our polls are inconclusive, but I’m analyzing all comments for patterns.)

– On that note, a few scientists have (privately) questioned whether certain  quantum science tests (including CERN projects) may have affected the fabric of our reality.

The following comments cover even more topics. I hope they’re helpful.

490 thoughts on “Theories”

  1. I have been noticing theres a lot of anger out there about this subject, been watching a few youtubes and someone made a point it that its the 5 stages of grief, Denial and Isolation, lots of people denying it even if they see it, they deny it, then they get angry, then its bargaining, how can we fix this.. depression some on here are depressed about the changes then we have acceptance. we who have gone through them all.. Could a lot of the angry people be feeling the loss, they dont want to lose what they are used too

  2. Just a few thoughts, Insomnia is a wonderful tool for ideas LOL

    My idea that the Mandela effect a Crash together is that when an effect happens it ripples forwards and backwards through time and space. Like dropping a stone into a pool. the ripples spread out interact inter react.. Because of the nature of information we have now, we are more aware, in the past many little villages had their own time their own bubble reality, now when the world grew more information rich, the past histories got homogenised into a singular history. This can explain why we have memories of atlantis, and other lost places but occasionally a little history something remains behind and gets altered and changed into stories myths and legends.

    Now these effects can happen at anytime and anyspace So it could happen 100 years ago and the ripples are coming forwards depending on the power and the change so it changes more at the incident then fades out over time and space so some of the tiniest changes could be from the 100 years ago merging.

    So drop a 10 ton rock into an ocean.. and stand 10 miles, away you only get the slightest of ripples. but get closer 1 mile say the ripple gets bigger. I personally think the universes can either collapse into one as in the BerenstAin and BerenstEin. worlds where the majority of people have the memory. or there are minor collapses where geographically/temporarily part of this world crash into others leaving changes. Some of us who are nearer to the incidence remember more, that those living on the other side of the planet. That would explain the differences of geography we have that the worlds crash into each other. so in theory they could have the smaller Madagascar i remember as it being an we have theirs. It can also explain the travellers from other worlds a slight crash and a hole. The changes in geography is does it change in the past or the present could there eventually be a mandela crash 10,000 years ago which will change the now, or could only mandela crashes occur as the present. This could also explain why some people notice and some dont add to that closed minds, and possibly other factors genetics included.

    If an incident is big enough it can create a permanent hole, where vanishings happen more. which could explain the triangles on the planet.

  3. So I haven’t seen anything similar on this site, (yet) but has anyone else noticed differences with THEMSELVES? I have noticed differences in events throughout my (relatively short compared to others’ here) life, but most has been minor. Nothing as large-scale as say, Tank Boy/Man, as I was not even born yet. But recently I realized that my appendicitis scar was considerably fainter and I had a new, darker scar farther back, paralleling it. Also, I used to have three birthmarks (in the shape of a triangle) on my left collarbone- except now its on the right, and has a fourth, smaller mark under the top one. I chalked it up to reflection misinterpretation (up until I was 9 I had trouble with left and right and could have possibly confused the direction) But it still felt WRONG when I noticed they were on my right side.

    I noticed the switch back when I was 12 (The scar thing is new to me) and was extremely confused. Its probably also worth noting that this is the year my “deja-vu” dreams were the most frequent (I mentioned this in a comment that is -at the time of writing this- under moderation.)

    Now, the year I was 12 was in 2009. The same year that I saw some were saying was a strange year for them.

    It makes me wonder that what if whatever phenomena that is causing the ME is also merging us, maybe accounting for the dual memories some have. I also wonder if those with certain attributes are more susceptible to “sliding” or ME in general, such as the others on this site claiming to have odd psychic experiences, or even those who have noticed major irregularities (for instance: double moons, different colored skies, I remember seeing a red moon- which is completely normal except it was twice the size of a “super-moon”)

    What if these strange happenings are the norm for these realities we visit or they are warnings that something more is happening.

    1. that’s interesting I too seem to have difficulty with working out which is my left hand i always assumed it was because i went to a very strict catholic primary school ran by nuns, and the left hand was the devils hand.. So was forced to write with my right, which i write in a left handed way. I wonder if anyone else has this same problem, when someone asks me about left or right i have to pause and actually look down, same with directions, i have to recite N e S w or Never eat Shredded Wheat just to trigger the order.. I do get chronically lost, even where i have lived for 41 years i still get lost i dont know road names, now if you say the shop next to the newsagents in the town centre i know exactly where it is.. bad memory or yet another street names changing and for some reason i cant recall.. am just saying all this to confirm or deny that i have an abysmal memory LOL. (have to laugh or i will go nuts and thats no joke)

  4. I just became aware of the Mandela effect, and my mind has been totally blown. As I have pondered the parallel or alternate universe theory several things have occurred to me, and I would love to get some feedback on them.
    It seems that if we except the concept of parallel universes, then we must also accept that there are an infinity to the “infinith” power universes. All possibilities within each infinity must eventually happen until all possibilities have been played out.. Rather than repeating and playing out again, everything in the “used up” universe could slide into a new reality. Perhaps, for instance, the StEIn universe has used up all of its possibilities, causing those in its infinite realities to “slide” into the StAIn universes. Perhaps even “joining” with the self that was already in this universe. However, since there are infinite possible universes that one could have come from, and also slid into, we all slide into the next over universe from our frame of reference. We are not necessarily moving into the same new universe. This would explain why, for instance, those who were closest to Mandela, or the Tienanmen square boy didn’t suddenly freak out with an “OMG you’ve been dead for years, and now you’re not” response…the StAIn universe that they slipped into was the next one over from the EI universe they slipped from…where it never happened. Those of us who remember it happening were in a different EI universe. Since neither of those people had very much influence on our lives, it could be explained away as misremembered events.
    My husband died about six years ago. I know that if I slipped into a universe where he never died, it would certainly strike me as more than a “misremembered event”, and I would totally freak out. In fact, very little has changed from the Ei universe that I was in, to the AI universe that I am now in. There don’t seem to be major “freak out” changes like the fact that my husband never really died. Therefor, I think that perhaps we each slip into the “next over” universe of possibilities.

    1. I expect many ‘Freak-Out’ moments as time moves on. I also feel that the ‘Freak-Out’ moments will gradually become more intense.

  5. Jim Stone of Jimstonefreelance has brought up this topic as well;. He is an ex-NSA engineer and he swears that he also remembers Mandela’s death, the TV show Sex and the City he says he remembers as Sex “in” the City as well as Looney Tunes used to be Loney Toons…

    This has got to be occultic high tech of the NWO. Everyone knows they have been working with aliens and alien technology. No doubt they could be using it to make trillions as well as try and save the failed banking system. The banking system is literally a rotting corpse…it would cause a world wide great depression if they dont fix it….


  6. The first “discrepancy” that I really noticed was in 1991. This one is EASY to document and falls into a time realm. Ask any “old person” (more than 55 years old) to quote the Lord’s Prayer from memory. You’ll find that almost to a person that they say “… forgive my trespasses, as I forgive those who trespass against me.”. That line IS NOT in the historical perspective (Matthew) regardless of translation that was available when they learned it! Furthermore if it had been caused by “false memory” there would be demonstrable divergence from a unified memory. Since the wording is also different (not just a word) it cannot be a well promulgated false belief! Since the bible WAS reading material for many, and words were pointed out one by one it cant be “whispering effect” (where a story changes as it goes from person to person). To further confound me, I have the bible I learned from 40+ years ago. The wording NOW matches the modern wording. I have checked back to 1934 bibles to no avail.
    The new wording is not about “sins” or “wrongs” but instead it is about finances!

    1. This change shocked me to my core. I went to catholic school as a child, went to church with my grandparents. The lord’s prayer was something I heard and said often. I remember reading it in the bible, and in the photocopies of the bible pages that were projected on the wall in school masses. It always said “Trespasses”. Now when you check the bible, no matter what version you are looking at, it says “Debts”. Unbelievable

    2. Did a little research and found a blog at experimental theology dot blogspot dot com, dated December 2012. Richard Beck traced it back to the book of common prayer that predates the King James Version. Apparently all translations since the KJV have been interpreted as ‘debt.’ Strange though, I was not catholic, my family was very religious, but the trespasses version has always been the easiest version for me to remember. I can never remember whether it’s ‘forgive our debtors,’ or ‘forgive those indebted to us,’ or ‘forgive those in our debt.’

      Book of Common Prayer (1549):
      OURE father, whiche arte in heaven, hallowed by thy name. Thy kyngdom come. Thy wyll be done in earth as it is in heaven. Geve us this daye oure dayly bread. And forgeve us oure trespasses, as we forgeve them that trespasse agaynst us. And leade us not into temptacion. But deliver us from evell. Amen.

      1. Found the origin of “trespasses” in the Lord’s Prayer's_Prayer_in_English
        Most of the translations given say debts, but some such as “Anglican BCP[9]” say trespasses
        Below the wiki article quotes the exact version I remember (from Catholic services):
        AD 1772 Anglican BCP[9]
        Our Father, which art in heaven;
        Hallowed by thy Name.
        Thy kingdom come.
        Thy will be done in earth,
        As it is in heaven.
        Give us this day our daily bread.
        And forgive us our trespasses,
        As we forgive them that trespass against us.
        And lead us not into temptation;
        But deliver us from evil:

  7. First of all, this is NOT a conspiracy theory. This is entirely based off of facts and other scientific theories. On the other hand, though, it isn’t proven once so ever. This is still a theory, but it is backed up (you get it)
    So, this phenomenon occurs when two universes clash together, causing the two to mend together (stay with me on this) and this also causing people to “slip” from one to the other. Now, these aren’t just two separate universes. These are “parallel universes.” One common misconception about parallel universes that most people believe is that parallel universes are “opposite universes” in a sense. This is not the case. While it is very possible for there to be a universe that seems quite different from our own (assuming that we can actually hop from one to the other) not every universe can be opposite, now can it? In a sense, if a parallel universe where an opposite version of our universe, then theoretically, there could only be two!
    Now, again, none of what I’m saying is proven, and is all literally just guessing and speculation. Don’t take any of this to heart.
    In this theory, there are infinite parallel universes. And, if you were to look up the word parallel, you would find the definition to be similar to: two lines that do not meet or intersect. Does this automatically mean that two parallel universe are opposites? Absolutely not! Again, I don’t know why this rumor has infected so many minds, but I’m not saying that there aren’t opposite universe out there.
    My theory also suggests the possibility of an infinite number of universes, all of which are copies of the same universe (a lot of this is similar to the actual Mendela Effect theory, but later on I’ll get to where I changed up my way of thinking), but with slight differences here and there, some noticeable, and some not. Think of these universes as several straight lines on top of each other with space in between each one. Now, as you’d assume, since these lines (universes) are equally spaced, and are straight (which means they are parallel, hints the name) that they can never touch. However, you’re assuming too much. First of all, you’re completely neglecting the possibility of “glitches” or “anomalies” in these lines. Universes are flimsy, so think of these lines as “noodles” per say. They aren’t supposed to touch, but some of these universes like to break the rules. It is most likely that the laws of physics don’t apply in the area outside of the universes. One line may bend downward, and touch another line, creating an anomaly, which causes energy, time, and living beings to swap universes. Then the line that bent down goes back up again…I know, this sounds a little bit strange, and I know many of you may be saying that, parallel means that they literally can’t touch, at all…EVER. The laws of physics and the basic mathematical equations say that it’s impossible. Well, you’re failing to go beyond the spectrum of what the laws of math and physics say. My look on the universe if if you keep going by what the laws of physics tell you and what the mathematical equations tell you, you’re eventually going to hit a dead end. You’re going to get to a point where you’ve answered all the possible questions that you can answer, and the others, you claim that you’ll never know. The reason we haven’t answered those questions yet is because we’re stating that the laws of physics and math apply to every place in the entirety of the universe. Well, the fact is, this most likely is not the case. You have to go beyond logic every once in awhile to answer questions that were thought to be impossible all this time.
    Gravity, nuclear fusion, all these things were made back when the big bang made our universe. It only exists within our universe. Well, if our universe is still expanding, what is it expanding into? That are (blackness, or nothingness) has nothing in it, so we can assume it has no gravity, no light, no physics, and most importantly, no time. It’s not until our universe expands past that point where the laws of physics come into play. So basically, the area in which the laws of physics work is expanding along with the matter in our universe.
    Anyway, the people who were in the line that bent downward in this demonstration were instantly swapped with the ones in the line that was struck. Remember, each line resembles a universe, each with minor differences. In this theory, a universe is represented as a line expands infinitely in every direction except up and down, NOT in a sphere! Every now and then, you yourself, yes you, will switch universes without even noticing it. You may ask yourself, why don’t we feel anything or hear or even experience any disruptions when two universes collide?
    In the space in between the universes, time doesn’t apply ,so energy, living beings, even entire planets can swap places instantly (in no time once so ever) without knocking into anything along the way, because technically, it never took the time to travel to it’s no position. There is no time in the area between the universes…
    So, why aren’t we swapped with our own planet rather than just us?
    That whole planet thing was just an example. Most likely, planets and large, massive beings like those aren’t swapped, and something that big moving faster than the speed of light would most likely implode the entire universe. Again, this is where the speculation comes in. This part I’m not entirely sure about. Why we seem to be the only ones transferring from one universe to the other and not planets and large objects. For now, we’ll skip this part.
    You would not experience any “buffering time” when swapping universes. It would be instantaneous, the only way you would be able to detect when you’ve swapped universes would be if you’re looking at something, a box of Fruit Loops for example, and you blink, and all of the sudden, the name on the cereal box changes to Froot Loops. This is something that’s unique to the universe that you’ve just swapped to. That box of Fruit Loops name is what changed, along with other small things that you most likely won’t notice.
    Now, what about this scenario? What if you saw that this cereal had changed its name instantly, and you went to go tell your best friend about it, and you’re friend says: “It’s always been like that.”
    Congratulations, you have a friend from another universe! This hints at the fact that not everyone from each universe was swapped. In fact, in order for this to happen, one of two things had to have occurred. Either A, your friend is messing with you (unlikely, since he doesn’t even know what just happened) or B not two, but THREE universes have just collided! How does this occur? Well, let’s go back to our diagram of the straight lines that are on top of each other in an infinite stack of lines, each one evenly spaced. When the entire universe’s population is “swapped” with another’s, everyone is affected. However, there is another line below the line that is being struck by the one above it. This line strikes the middle line at the same time the top one does, causing one to take part of the population of the middle universe, and the other to take what’s left, and then each universe gives part of its population to make sure the collision has an equal reaction. If this didn’t happen, then entirety of everything would most likely collapse in on itself. This results in a “scrambled effect.” But, you’ll notice, not everybody from the top and bottom line got transferred to another universe. But, let’s say that you were from the line in the middle, where the cereal is spelled “Fruit Loops”, and that you were part of the certain number of people that happened to get switched to the top universe, where it is called “Froot Loops.”
    You would soon discover that not everyone in the world remembers Fruit Loops, but maybe close to half of the population does. This is because one half of the people from universe A (or the top line) never switched. The number of people who were switched could vary between just hundreds, or possibly billions of people. To the people who never switched, they’re all of the sudden hearing about all this “Fruit Loops” crap, wondering why everyone’s making such a fuss about it. To them, “Froot Loops would be normal.”
    I didn’t want to get too scientific with this explanation for the sake of everyone’s sanity while reading this. Hope this made sense to you all! I tried thinking as much into this as I could.

    1. Nathan, you spent considerable time explaining several ideas in detail. Thank you. Also, I appreciate every concept and explanation offered here, especially when people use good, specific examples, as you have.

      However, some of these phrases — to me, anyway — seemed a little critical or argumentative in tone. (Please don’t take that personally. Perhaps it’s just how my brain works after reading 50 or so new comments, so far, and the last 10 were in the “you’re just confused” category.)

      So, in case anyone else read Nathan’s enthusiastic comments in a slightly critical light, this is just a reminder: I’d like to keep our discussions light and cooperative.

      For me, conspiracy theories are those in which the Mandela Effect and related phenomena are part of some power play by individuals or groups, known or unknown, and generally to our detriment. Even if that were true, I’m not sure I could do anything about it, so I generally don’t go down that path.

      Also, in this discussion, let’s keep in mind that “facts” and “based on facts” aren’t the same thing. In addition, things that are facts in this reality might not be facts in the reality someone just arrived from. So, that can be a difficult term to use without raising some hackles.

      If we keep in mind that many of our conversations are speculative, and physics (in this reality) is just beginning to offer explanations, this can be a fascinating, fun topic.

  8. Having a thought about chartreuse and doing a little research and a little remembering a story about how the term BLUE was one of the last descriptions of colour. reading a little more i found something ODD,

    Basic Color Terms: Their Universality and Evolution by Brent Berlin and Paul Kay

    Berlin and Kay posit seven levels in which cultures fall, with Stage I languages having only the colors black (dark–cool) and white (light–warm). Languages in Stage VII have eight or more basic color terms. This includes English, which has eleven basic color terms. The authors theorize that as languages evolve, they acquire new basic color terms in a strict chronological sequence; if a basic color term is found in a language, then the colors of all earlier stages should also be present. The sequence is as follows:

    Stage I: Dark-cool and light-warm (this covers a larger set of colors than English “black” and “white”.)
    Stage II: Red
    Stage III: Either green or yellow
    Stage IV: Both green and yellow
    Stage V: Blue
    Stage VI: Brown
    Stage VII: Purple, pink, orange, or gray

    as you can see red is the 2nd stage and either yellow/green is stage 3.. Isnt that strange that some people mix up charteuse as being red/yellow or green. In “The Odyssey,” Homer famously describes the “wine-dark sea.” But why “wine-dark” and not deep blue or green?

    In 1858 a scholar named William Gladstone, who later became the prime minister of Great Britain, noticed that this wasn’t the only strange color description. Though the poet spends page after page describing the intricate details of clothing, armor, weaponry, facial features, animals, and more, his references to color are strange. Iron and sheep are violet; honey is green

    1. Martin, this is most interesting. Associating colors, with language. Sadly, I think we might actually be “regressing” in language, reverting back to a stage 1 or 2. Possibly we are “noticing” remnants from more developed stages that we once were? Stage 1 to me could be more, artificial, machine like maybe. Words that are close, but not quite, what some of us are noticing with the word changes. Dilemna for example, I will stand by that one forever. It, to me is one of the hardest to just brush off, for many reasons. I am not as good as a lot of you on here at conveying what I mean in words, so I hope this might make sense.

      And William Gladstone, would for sure be diagnosed with synesthesia today.

      And of course as I type this , a SIRIUS radio DJ, out of the blue, is talking about Marty McFly and “Back to the Future”. I give up, LOL. Mike H.

  9. Another 3 am thought not that its 3 am here but i use the term as being one of those thoughts that happen when you are not quite asleep and not quite awake when the mind wanders and “logic” takes a little holiday.

    Been thinking about a commonality We all remember things the human mind i believe has lots of secrets, that we cannot really describe, We barely know HOW our minds work.. So If there is a time line change whether from a time traveller or a crash between the alternate timelines.. since our mind can effectively travel to other places (imagination or something deeper).. it could be more immune to changes than the physical realities. Genetics and upbringing all can add to the immunity or decrease it.

    Now since the web is growing at an exponential rate and we dont actually know where all the computers are or what type of computers that are connected.. I have tablet computers, a desktop, windows 10, and 8 and 7 laptops.. yes am a tech head.. and there has been mention in the past about quantum computers, computers using dna coding(bio molecular computing is the technical term). Could it be this is where things veer into science fiction.. that as the computational powers grow, that connections like those of the human brain can be formed, you have programmes and algorithms that are getting very complex could that be able to retain more of the changes that we humans see.

    I think of the net being changed by the mandela effects that its “hunting out the incorrect” universal information trying to make it this realities history, but the information is moving faster and being stored in different places in the net what with computers and servers coming into existence and out again, that it cant get all the date information, so thats why things like the way back machine can show the change of berenstein to stain on a 80’s cartoon website.. around april 2001 to august 2001. Then after a time the information cannot be removed as its is so many places.

    As i said this is a 3 am thought (no wonder i dont sleep well).. could be a reason why we remember and why the physical things do change and sometimes the inter net information doesnt..

  10. What is interesting is that a few themes/categories of Mandela effects appear to be forming:

    1. Moving/New Countries
    2. Celebrity/Leaders Deaths
    3. Change in spellings/phrases in books/films etc

    Most of what we are witnessing can be fitted into these 3 categories. Maybe it’s because for 2 & 3 this is the world we most pay attention to.

    I think the moving countries is a major issue and if we look at the big picture where does this begin to lead us.
    My thoughts and speculations:
    1. There appears to be more landmass across the world than ever before. We are told that the world is 2/3rds water , does this still seem the case?
    2. All the continents now appear to be too close to each other, is the earth shrinking?
    3. A lot of the lands appear to be travelling Northwards, are they being pushed/pulled by something?
    4. Is Antartica getting larger ? Maybe we just haven’t paid attention before.

    So we just have more questions , I’m finding myself looking at maps of the world every few days now and it’s getting stranger and stranger. Certainly not the world I grew up in.

    On a side note, does anyone find that when you raise these questions or topics with some people , that they just don’t get it! Or they don’t react or even feel it’s important. This I find just as strange as the Mandela Effect!

    Until the next effect , take care everyone.

      1. I love Neal Adams’ expanding Earth (and Moon and other planets) theory and videos and would like to hear what he has to say, if you want to share it with us, Fiona. 🙂

        1. Alex, if I hear from him, I’ll let you know… if he says that’s okay, that is. I’m not sure what he’s working on right now, and I might not hear from him for weeks. Maybe months. (It’s an artist thing, and I completely understand. I can be the same with my emails, as well.)

    1. I find some people get angry at me for just asking the question, As if they dont want to believe there is anything different and that i am calling their entire life is a lie.. Or they find reasons as to why its not true, but their reasons are focused on “YOU are wrong”, rather than you may be right, which goes back to the first people being angry. I have to start to ask them questions in a jokey way so they dont get upset

      1. I’ve found the same Martin. There are people I’ve known a long time that id be surprised if we spoke again. There were no fights involved, I just know. I have my sister secretly asking family members some questions, cause coming from me, I’ll get the 3rd degree unless of course it’s the 5th degree in this dimension. I figure those folks will figure it out when they are supposed to, and then ill get the call.

    2. Hi, Ricardo,

      I have to agree about people’s reactions, sadly. Generally they don’t get it, react, or care.

      Of the people whom I’ve brought this up to:
      * two see it and accept it as very real external changes,
      * one admits the possibility of sliding, but figures that it’s more likely an indication of my stress level,
      * four I can’t exactly classify (their reactions were so nondescript as to fall easily into any of the first 3 of not getting/reacting/caring),
      * one figures that people are gullible (of what, he doesn’t specify),
      * one doesn’t see them at all (but attributes my observations to things just changing for commercial reasons — which ignores a lot of the issues),
      * one doesn’t even grasp what I’ve tried to convey,
      * and nobody on my FaceBook (approx. 100 friends) has yet commented on it at _all_ (I’ve brought it up a couple of times, yet not a single response has yet forthcome).

      Come to think of it, given my increasingly public stance on the whole thing (having apparently thrown circumspection to the wind), I might have to change my name here to something like “”No-longer-closeted team-E” or “Rather obviously team-E”. 🙂

  11. Another 3 am thought.. darn this insomnia.. Would the mandela effect be limited.. I know we have seen effects here on earth, but could there/would there be similar mergings on other planets. Or does the entire universe change, or just parts of it.. or a Combination of both.

    I personally think it can be patchy.. as I remember some things others dont, and others from a different geographical location have a completely different memory and some from other places have the exact memory as me. So going back to would the alteration of say BerentSTAIN, universe have affected other places.. outside out experience. The moon Example the Moon doesnt look right, but does that mean We have changed or the moon has changed.. So we moved to Moon Beta where it looks different or did Moon Beta come into the Alpha universe and replace Moon Alpha.

    Same with The physical books, Did we go into the BerensSTAIN universe, or did the books change in the BerenSTEIN universe. Did we change or just the books change.. its an interesting thought

  12. The theory about time travelling for ‘financial gain’ certainly seems logical and sound, on the surface.

    But the only people with enough power, wealth and ‘secret, esoteric information’ (Nazi Bell, Project Paperclip, etc.) in this world to be able to create a time machine, are the ones who already have more ‘money’ that they know what to do with. Remember who created the money, and who manipulates the amount of money available, and why, and how (watch ‘The Money Masters’ on youtube for more information – it’s hours long, but it explains things very clearly).

    If I can create money, why would I use my time machine just to get more money?


    Money is nothing to them. They have ‘all the money in the world’ (plus REAL material wealth, like land, buildings, vehicles, gold, silver, precious gems, crystals, etc).

    What matters is CONTROL and AGENDA.

    The wealthiest people in this world – well, it’s kind of hard to delve into these things without touching the ‘conspiracy issue’, but people have always conspired in the past, especially those with wealth and power, and they always will, until something stops them from doing so.

    The whole system is designed to enslave the masses. And masses are gladly going along with it, and always praise their chains. (The difference between ‘legal system’ and ‘law’ should be enough evidence of that)

    I am only mentioning all this to counter the point about money, and to explain why it CANNOT be ‘for financial gain’, because that is meaningless to those with already enough of it.

    If you have vast amounts of gold, would you really create a time machine and go to past just to gain a few more gold bars? No, you wouldn’t.

    You would want something else, something ‘more grand’.

    The truth is, the ‘powers that be’ (so to say) have an agenda. They do everything to serve that agenda.

    In my opinion, the human portion of that group is not in actual, full control, but are controlled from another plane of existence by the actual ‘masters’, the most sinister entities in this circle. I think ‘Moloch’ is one of those entities.

    You can think of this as ‘Hitler didn’t have charisma, but the masses were mesmerized by hidden forces every time he spoke’. Someone who met Hitler, even said that he expected Hitler to have some kind of charisma and magnetism, but he was just like any dude, almost completely zero-charisma, and was very surprised by this (OK, the word ‘dude’ was probably not used).

    It’s impossible for one man to mesmerize masses the way Hitler did, especially with lunatic raving like that. No, something more was needed, and the ‘esoteric side’ provided that. Nazis weren’t just obsessed with the occult from this side – the occult world from the other side was also controlling Nazis.

    The same thing goes on, even though names, people and groups on this side change. On the other side, the same group relentlessly advances the agenda, and uses people on this side to do their bidding. That’s why the agenda advances so steadily, despite wars being won by whomever. Allies and Nazies – in the end, it’s (or at least becomes) the same thing.

    So, knowing all this, going back for financial gain seems a bit naive.

    Besides, how would anyone move continents for financial gain? And what financial gain is there, twisting Australia into that horrible shape? (It seems like our past time alterer(s) are keen on creating SPIKES, like the one in Sicily, plus of course in Australia)

    I mean, if only financial gain was the point, surely continents could be left where they are, and not moved or changed. Something much bigger must be going on, if it requires the SHRINKING of the planet, and moving continents around!

    I think it’s something more esoteric, something more sinister, and has to do with bringing ‘hell on Earth’. I mean, it has already begun.

    You see the ‘skull&crossbones’ symbol everywhere nowadays, you play any modern game, and it’s full of ‘hell’ in one way or another (colorless despair and gloom, or just hellish symbols and environments – just play an innocent RPG like WoW, and you are suddenly in ‘Hellfire Peninsula’, killing demons with hooves and ‘Devilsaurs’, etc. or in other lava-filled worlds with zombies and undead, skeletons and whatnot)..

    The minds of the people of this planet are prepared to accept all this as ‘normal’, plus.. the thought power of billions of people is strong enough to alter reality. If you can guide them to think the same way, accept the same things as reality, it means that it’s easier to bring that reailty to come true, and be accepted as ‘normal’ as well.

    I have been shocked about many things during my visit on this planet, but all these things still feel alarming to me.

    However, as for real shock – nothing can beat the Mandela-effect..

    Besides, going to past to change things for ‘financial gain’ doesn’t really EXPLAIN anything other than a possible motive (which I hope I proved wrong in this post).

    Going to past to change things for SOME kind of gain, I completely agree with as one possibility. But ‘financial’? No. They have all the finances they ever need. Just look how much was poured to LHC alone!

    (Although in this timeline, it may be even more)

    I hope this post doesn’t come off as too ‘conspirational’, but it’s hard to talk about one thing and exclude another, because in the end, ‘everything is connected to everything else’.

    This post may be edited as needed – I just hope some of my arguments against the ‘financial’ theory can be displayed.

    1. Permashocked, I’m approving this exactly as you wrote it, but only because you made some well-constructed arguments. What you’re saying goes far down the conspiracy trail, and I won’t approve further conspiracy-related posts. Other sites and forums do a far better job of handling those kinds of conversations.

      The “possible explanations” I’m looking for at this part of the website are more about the mechanics of how ME works, not the motivation or sinister goals of those that may (or may not) be behind it.

      My view is: First, let’s document what’s going on. Then, let’s see if we can understand how it’s happening. After those two topics have been established (within reasonable doubt), we can look at the who — the powers behind it, if any.

      Personally, I’m happiest with the idea that we designed this ourselves as a game, and we’re in a holodeck. Or, maybe it’s not a holodeck and we’re actually shuffling (for fun, learning experiences, challenges, randomity) between realities by choice.

      Whether we actually control those journeys and select the destinations ahead of time is another matter, but I’m still focusing on what is going on: How much has changed, and whether it actually represents a slide from one reality to another.

      So, I hope that makes my views clear. I agree that a complete understanding of this topic will include the “who” behind it and why this exists. For now, this part of the website is more about the mechanics of what’s going on.

    2. Permashocked stated:
      “You can think of this as ‘Hitler didn’t have charisma, but the masses were mesmerized by hidden forces every time he spoke’. Someone who met Hitler, even said that he expected Hitler to have some kind of charisma and magnetism, but he was just like any dude, almost completely zero-charisma, and was very surprised by this (OK, the word ‘dude’ was probably not used).

      It’s impossible for one man to mesmerize masses the way Hitler did, especially with lunatic raving like that. No, something more was needed, and the ‘esoteric side’ provided that. Nazis weren’t just obsessed with the occult from this side – the occult world from the other side was also controlling Nazis.”

      Perhaps my thoughts would have been aligned with yours had it not been for my own investigations into my family’s bloodline. It was not until I started to delve into my lineage that I found/noticed the shifts occurring. So I first started researching 2011-2012 and then again 2014-present. It was mid 2014 that I noticed the changed from Berenstein to Berenstain. The name in itself was a clear indication to me that I had began to delve into something which was deep in meaning and significance.

      I had been taught in American schools that Hitler was “a lunatic” however it was not until I researched it myself that I found another story. The story that the victors did not want you to know. It is my opinion that such a lunatic would not have shaked hands with someone like Jesse Owens. There is a quote by Jesse saying how welcomed he was by Hiter and perhaps this is another ME considering that black men where not event accepted in their own back yards. Nonetheless, I think researching one’s own blood line is key into deciphering the “ME anomalies”. In my opinion, and respectfully speaking, the analysis presented under current tems is outwardly flawed and biased.

      1. Wow, Daniel… what a theory! I’m rather stunned by it. (I’m also muttering to myself, “Uh-oh, this looks like a new variation of Godwin’s Law.” LOL)

        I’ve been an enthusiastically involved in genealogy since… well, probably before most readers were born. (I always hasten to add: I started very young. Again: LOL)

        So, I’m interested in hearing more about this concept. Is it the act of delving back into one’s own lineage? (I can see that’s different from being an historian. Primary source genealogical records give us a far different view of history, in a “you are there” way.) Is it related to a particular blood line that might be in some families? (I’m aware that many genealogies trace back to “mythic” ancestry: the Irish to Milesians to the Tuatha De Danann, and the Norse to Odin, etc. Are those just fantasy genealogies? I don’t think so; I believe they mask deeper truths about our planet’s past… which is taking me rather off-topic here.)

        So, what about researching one’s ancestry connects us with the Mandela Effect? I’m very interested.

        1. Not sure how to word it but I will try (have erased and typed many times now).
          Take for instance, that you were told and taught one thing about your lineage but as you research you begin to find more and more discrepancies. Things do not quite add up and seem somewhat illogical. I like to analyze the heck out of stuff until I think that I have gotten a bigger picture. So mentally, I jump from point B to F, then H to C, and somehow arrive back at B only to rethink everything until it makes sense.

          So when I researched, I found a lot of things that were incongruent. This lead me through many different paths. What initially started on just my family line lead me through Scotland, laws written against the Cherokee Nation, Moorish philosophies , plenty of Biblical references, quantum science, Margaret Sanger, Arabic (Egypt “Al Qahira” means Mars and there is an entire story just in the name), Hebrew, back to the Kabala (delved there once before around 2008 but had a dream which was basically hinting that I was not ready), Phenotypes ( there seem to be some people who are here that are over hundreds of years old. There are others who seem like exact replicas and reincarnations), blood typing (RH- Arabic “to know”), Muamar K(G)hadafi, then Indian President elect Joko Widodo (looks like one of the little boys in President Obama’s Elementary School photo), Adolf Hitler, history of German scientists in South America, ….

          One thing just lead to the other but it formed within me another perception of the world which heightened around rethinking the Holocaust. It is somewhat weird that you would make mention of God wins law. Feel like I am being programmed to think this way sometimes. Nonetheless, there are things that I have noticed in children and family members which hint to the fact that we are our ancestors.

          It seems as if God has given us the ability to change things. Through thought it appears possible to change the past, present, and future. However, if our memories stay with us we could possibly be manifesting what we now see as MEs. The saying is nothing new but we realize that are thoughts can be made manifest and speaking on them makes it even stronger.

          MEs could just be indicating the shift in consciousness. Where one moves the rest follow.

    3. Seems like your overall point is that there is an additional hand at play which is puppeting iconic figures and taking advantage of weaknesses in order to infiltrate our world. Is this correct? (sounds familiar like what Hitler was saying in one of his speeches What some would call the synagogue of Satan.

      I think my major issue was being told something to bludgeon the image of someone while in my youth only to find that there was a deeper context later on. False lies we tell our children because we think the will not understand, or there is something guarding the full truth of our existence.

      1. I agree that some people do very evil things. I’m also certain that cabals exist and some have very self-serving motives. I’d like not to demonize the Mandela Effect or go far down conspiracy-related paths. However, it’s impossible not to reference these ideas as we explore explanations. Are we being told the full truth? I think archaeology has proved that we aren’t. It may be “hidden in plain sight,” but it’s not generally in our history books.

        I still believe that many — perhaps most — Mandela Effect experiences are related to quantum science and simply (or so it seems, to me) sliding between realities. I’m not sure how many of those slides occur in the waking state, and how many are in dreams (per Dr. Fred Wolf) that are so very real, they blur with our waking realities when we reflect back on them, months or years later.

  13. Possible Explanation for the Mandela Effect

    Definitions for this explanation:

    DENSITY – A millisecond of substance containing a moment of an event from infinite possibilities.
    I would also describe my definition as similar to string theory and aspects of what Nathan described above as universes.

    DIMENSION – A large portion of many Densities.

    SLIDE – To shift from one Density to the next adjacent Density.

    SLIP – To shift from one Density to any other Density (other than the adjacent Density) within that specific Dimension. This I would equate with someone who is sure you didn’t go see a movie with them and your sure you did or vice versa.

    JUMP – To shift from one Dimension to the next adjacent Dimension. What I believe some of us may be doing.

    STREAM – To shift through multiple Dimensions.

    SKIP – An immediate shift from point ‘A’ to what would tentatively (tentively?) be a final destination.

    SWITCH – The ability to shift back and forth through the Dimensions.

    TRIGGER – A trigger can be a personal event or a group event. Examples of possible triggers. CERN, Psychedelics, UFO Encounter, death, taking back your power, NDE, serious accident, shocking event, spiritual experience , thinking for yourself, having integrity, Blood moon, time travel, planetary alignment, certain year or specific point in time and I’m sure I missed many others.

    I propose from the moment we are conceived we Slide from Density to Density creating the illusion of motion and time. Normal life as we ‘knew’ it was essentially us Sliding within a Dimension. This is infinite as each adjacent Density splits off in many directions and each of those Densities split and so on. Keeping this in mind also picture the monitor in The Matrix. Each pixel would represent someone. Some move slow, Sliders. Some move fast, Jumpers. Some are bright, Physical. Some are dull, Other Realms. Some are small, some are big, some up front and some are in the back. They all have their function.

    What I would like to present to the group is that some sort of trigger started us Jumping, so now we are noticing larger anomalies. We are, relatively speaking, experiencing a rather peaceful transition. Think of those who are still just Slipping and Sliding. Will they be Streaming and Skipping to catch up with us? Imagine what their reactions are going to be. Remember when you had your first ME experience? It shakes some people up for sure, me included. Their experience would be quite different. For them the changes will not be gradual. Life will change for them in the blink of an eye and not subtlety and in explorative ways. Is this the message Stain meant by ‘watch out for the awakening in 2029’?

    Those who Switch would need sign posts or marker codes to navigate. Will we get to be a Switch at some point? That could be fun!

    As this explanation resonates best for me, I am sure if true, other forces are at work as well.

    Possible ways to speed up the experience and/or shift more frequently or have a more pleasant transition may be to eat healthy, exercise, meditate, no meat, no fluoride, no smoke, no alcohol, rest, integrity, love, etc …

    Possible ways of making the most of this incredible situation might be to enjoy your favorite movie all over again with a new outlook. Go to a concert to enjoy that dead rockstar. Eat a candy bar you never heard of. Listen to music from your favorite artist that you’ve never heard. Sit around and wait for the John Lennon come back tour. Watch the extinct buffalo roam. Make money off your friends. “Hey, I’ll bet you $50 bucks you can’t spell Berenstain.” <<< no don't do that, I'm just kidding and the joke could be on you anyway.

    I do have one other theory, that I hesitate to post as it really creeps me out ….

    It has occurred to me that we could have all died/passed on, and we are all in denial. Fiona as a ghost catcher, lures us to the site and presides over this construct of simulated earth to ease us into truth and guide us in the proper direction.

    That's just too creepy!

    1. Anthony, thank you for that comment. I especially appreciate how, at the start, you defined the terms you’re using.

      Your concepts are lovely, and I suspect you’re involved with some kind of art (writing, music, visual arts) as a profession or as a hobby. Your visions of what’s going on and what people can do with this… they’re wonderful, verging on the aesthetic in some cases.

      Of course, the last concept made me laugh, but — if it were serious — it would be absolutely chilling. (That said, I can assure you that the “go to the light” aspect of ghost hunting has never had much appeal to me. My focus there — as here — has always been, “Okay, something is going on, but what is it really…?“)

      Mostly, I’m very pleased with what you’ve presented as possibilities, and I really appreciate the time you took to create and post this comment.


      1. Anthony, I can’t possibly convey what Fiona just did any better, other than well said! I suspect a lot of people will think about your post today, so keep the ideas coming. That’s why we are here.

        And Fiona I agree with you, and always have in this aspect. “Something is going on, but WHAT is it”? I don’t rule anything out (or in) anymore. There are so many good theories on this site anymore, it’s like we need our own book of them. I REALLY like Anthony’s well thought out glossary. That might actually come in handy for reference. Of course if the meanings were all agreed upon. But it is a handy starting point. Mike H.

      2. Fiona, I have lost literally 1000’s of poems and short stories on line. I wrote a good portion of what i believed to be the accidental creation of physical reality. Losing that was tuff but the rest I usually just let it go. Computer would crash. I never backed anything up back then.
        I love music in most it’s forms. Play instruments etc…

        1. Anthony, thank you for your wonderful ideas! These also resonate with me as well. I would like to add to your comment on speeding up the experience or having a more pleasant transition…. it truly IS a matter of becoming a “better” person… in action and thought. Meaning, a higher vibrational being. Just as the earth’s frequency (vibratory hum) has increased in the last few years, and is still increasing, we are seeing more and more people “shift” to a higher vibration themselves. I believe this transition into a higher, less dense vibratory form allows us to experience more dimensions and “realities”, as many of us are now doing.

          My question then is, if this theory holds some truth, with the increase of frequency of the earth and many of it’s humans, what happens to those who remain in their lower frequency/density? Perhaps right now the bridge between higher and lower frequencies in people is short enough to allow us to experience a common reality. But then again, it hasn’t been so common lately.

          1. Hi Denise,
            I’ve thought about that often. What did I leave behind? Who did I leave behind and how are they? Some of those people here just don’t seem the same. Well, they’re not. They have grown too. Whether they’ve shifted or not, does not matter. This is about YOU! You can still interact with people. But one’s focus should be on oneself.

    2. Oh my goodness Anthony! Yes to most of this. And the last one regarding the ghost catcher is even more amusing. Never thought of Fiona as the ghost catcher for the slippers, slidders, and jumpers. Im done. If no one gets any more exposure other than what has already been proposed at this site they have had more than enough to think about.
      That is probably exactly what Mr. Stain was referring to as I find myself running into more people who are perplexed. I can only say but so much and then direct them here.

  14. Heres something that i discovered on my travels.. The phantom time hypothesis. The scarcity of archaeological evidence that can be reliably dated to the period AD 614–911, the perceived inadequacies of radiometric and dendrochronological methods of dating this period, and the over-reliance of medieval historians on written sources. The presence of Romanesque architecture in tenth-century Western Europe, suggesting the Roman era was not as long as conventionally thought.

    Since thinking about the mandela effect and people moving universes.. i am wondering this is completely out of the blue, but what if something happened, and we moved to this earth. If other universes have different time scales, could it be that we had to alter our history to fit in with this worlds age.. it may be just coincidence but would be interesting, could explain a few missing parts of history.. but just a thought..

    1. It seems that historians are plagued by a plethora of falsified documents from the Middle Ages, and such was the subject of an archaeological conference in München, Germany in 1986. In his lecture there, Horst Fuhrmann, president of the Monumenta Germaniae Historica, described how some documents forged by the Roman Catholic Church during the Middle Ages were created hundreds of years before their “great moments” arrived, after which they were embraced by medieval society. This implied that whomever produced the forgeries must have very skillfully anticipated the future… or there was some discrepancy in calculating dates. this is one of the more interesting parts. Since we have time problems.. and people have memories of different and temporal changes.. like seeing a film years before it was created..

    2. Martin your comment “The phantom time hypothesis. The scarcity of archaeological evidence that can be reliably dated to the period AD 614–911, the perceived inadequacies of radiometric and dendrochronological methods of dating this period, and the over-reliance of medieval historians on written sources”
      made me think back to something I had said before regarding the Moorish invasion of 711. If you look up the word moor in a way it seems synonymous to taking over a vessel/ship; that being the body/consciousness. There are those who consider themselves to be Moors and some confusion about mixing them up with Berbers, but his may just be one of the many top layers of thought/history.

      I ran into a video that related to a biblical verse and seemed to help fit pieces together ( Deuteronomy 28:68
      And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.) Egypt meaning bondage

      The significance of number 711 is also of interest.

  15. In terms of the mechanics of how I think delving into the work of Joseph P. Farrell amongst others could hold some clues.

    Some speculation …

    Everything has information encoded in it – that information can be rewritten with technology. Knowledge of that technology has been around forever, yet largely hidden for thousands of years. It’s workings can be understood by studying myth, mathematics and ancient structures.

    Application of the technology involves an interaction with consciousness in some way.

    Cern, HAARP and so on play a lesser role than we suspect, perhaps they have a role but it is just a small segment of the larger machine. I suspect the layout of the world’s cities play just as large a role, along with installations we have scant knowledge of such as an enormous antennae under Pine Gap.

    This machine is being tested and we are documenting the results on this website. The results have some clues on how the machine works – think City, Vampires, Death, Was/Is, Magic/Mirror. It could likely be a weapon.

    It is also interesting that ones essence is considered in a mechanistic world view to consist solely of ones memory – eg. transhumanism and ‘uploading’, which of course is far from the reality of being human. (Are those with unreliable memory to be considered to be portrayed unreliable humans ??)

    This schism between memory and reality appears to point to an attack (or a drain) on our, for want of a better word, souls.

  16. While I was initially leaning towards quantum immortality as being the cause, I have been noticing that after I have a night of powerful and memorable dreams I experience Mandela effects and other glitches in reality more often. I wonder if our dream state can cause our consciousness to slide between realities in a similar way as quantum immortality? And if so, could lucid dreaming allow some measure of control over the reality we wake up to? After all, no one really knows where we go when we die or when we’re dreaming…

    1. Trev, The dream state itself is quite satisfying,unless it’s a nightmare.We need to control our dreams and get inspirational ideas to make waking hours as glorius as dreaming …..(time has different charecteristics in dream state).

  17. Upon my travels. someone mentioned that deja vu was you part merging with another version of you. but for some reason it never got completed..just that fraction of time when you were a doubled self..

    1. Martin, That statement is very profound. It makes the most sense of all the reasons I have ever heard for deja vu. Really excellent theory. Mike H.

      1. I read it as deja vu is a merging or realities that never really completed, that somehow it went wrong and the change wasn’t permanent.

  18. Hi Fiona,

    I don’t necessarily believe this but I’m going to throw it out there anyway as someone out there may resinate with this scenario.

    Just a thought. For over ten years now I have been hearing and reading about people on the internet who claimed that on this date and that date there would be some kind of Doomsday event in which most of us would perish. A few of these people were self-proclaimed prophets who could see the future and some have been people who claimed that they were ‘in the know’ for example ex CIA or ex this or that. On a few of these occasions when we passed that date and obviously nothing occurred a few of these somewhat embarrassed would be prophet have claimed that they were not incorrect at all but it happened on a different timeline. It has been the ultimate ‘get of jail card’ for a few of these would be prophets.

    But what if there is some truth to this? What if many of us managed to escape that particular reality before this predicted catastrophe or doomsday event and enter into another reality? A reality where this event has not happened or happened yet.

    1. Jason, you’ll find various comments relating to this, elsewhere on this site. It’s a great theory, and certainly a strong foundation for a sci-fi series, though I expect this theme has been used several times.

  19. I’ve been thinking about what all of us who experience (or notice) this phenomenon might have in common. I’m wondering how many people here have had somewhat difficult lives, experiencing loss and/or trauma. I theorize that perhaps the psyche or souls of people who have experienced deep emotional trauma could be more flexible…or permeable. I’ve noticed a theme of empaths posting here. Perhaps that allows us to “tune in” to other realities, or notice changes in our own that the population isn’t meant to notice, and most don’t. In fact, I’ve noticed that people (in my life) like my husband who have experienced almost no loss or trauma (a relatively easy life) are ones who question nothing. I, on the other hand question everything.

    Thinking in this same vein I would like to propose a question: when a loved one dies, and we experience the kind of profound sadness that is accompanied by a physical ache- Could that kind of intense longing and focus actually have an effect on our reality, or another reality, sort of as a manifestation of a signal? For example, maybe in another reality my sister never died, and alternate me and alternate her are spending time together. If I am having a difficult day locally, thinking about my sister and missing her horribly, maybe I’m somehow “tapping in” to the alternate me in that is in a reality where my sister is alive- and catching glimpses from over there, which I then experience as alternate memories.

    Looking at this from a slightly different, more sinister angle but sticking with the theme of difficult lives, sometimes I feel like the universe is working against me. I am not delusional to believe I’m important enough to merit the universe or TPTB actually conspiring against me, but what if this ability to perceive changes/shifts was an inborn quality, and one that could be regarded as a threat to the order of society/nature. If the changes aren’t meant to be noticed, we’re like free radicals out there threatening to destroy reality as we know it.

    In my life it seems like there has been tragedy at every turn. I lost my dad as a child, and two siblings in my twenties, and many more distant relatives have passed away throughout that time. I’ve experienced serious illness, surgeries, poverty, abuse, paranormal things, and I could go on. Maybe if my mind wasn’t so distracted by all this I’d be able to solve mysteries of the universe, lol. I’m kidding of course, but curious if loss could be one thing we have in common.

  20. OK. This sounds weird, but Daniel 7:25 of the Bible reads…
    And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

    This is that whole beast rising out up the bottomless pit motif.

    Now, Steven Hawking has come out and stated that information does not dissapear forever into a black hole. The information can be reflected back as gravitational information.

    Now, gravimetric information bends SpaceTime.

    Now what if that Bible verse is an algorythm for the effect of an unstable yet organized gravity wave?

    A jailbreak, as it were, overwriting reality? War in Heaven indeed.
    And the solution to the grandfather paradox being a human female incorporating gravimetric information as parthogenesis.

    Of course, that could suggest that what is called myth is just popular science.

    1. Neal
      Regarding Stephen Hawking and his statement that things do not disappear forever, there was a poster here who mentioned that they equated what we are seeing to the world being a computer-like program. This analogy looks very similar to ” gravimetrics” presented here. (Will try to find post)

      Also, as far as parthenogenesis, I have been exposed to the idea of there being multiple Adam and Eves in the beginning. Also, prior to the split of “atom” (Adam) there may have been that capability to reproduce without sex. Sort of like saying that the “original” man had qualities of both male and female or XX, but when the rib was removed and clone-like partner/or opposite was made we were given XX and now XY. Not to be sexist but, I am viewing the XX to have greater abilities, such as intuition, than XY and yet it may still be possible for XX to recreate without XY because it bears the womb. Both, however, have the ability of increasing the recessive horomones, such as estrogen(XX) and testosterone (XY), to begin to mirror the other.

      Something that I found interesting to support idea of XX actually being the more dominant is how “indigenous” people, “natives “, and others are headed by women. It is Jewish understanding that the mother is the predominant factor to determine whether the child is Jewish. If the father is a Jew but the mother is not then the child is not either. But if the mother is a Jew and the father is not the child is still a Jew. There is a matriarchal line , like many other cultures. America, as well as other countries, have been more focused on a patrilineal line and men having dominion.

      I think this is a big clue into some of the things going on. Very simply, the body language of brother and sister bear changed in the Berenstein/Berenstain books because the XX of this “dimension” will be the dominant. Before it was sister bear looking very innocent and passive while brother bear had his arms folded in a pouty/bossy manner. Now it is sister bear with arms folded and brother bear with a passive smile. We all know that the squeaky wheel gets the oil and passiveness can lead to being passed by/run over.

    2. Oh yeah, I meant to add that I am familiar with that verse as well and researched a bit into it. There are plenty more verses to explain our current situation. It reiterates the idea that the Bible is NOW. Like some would say, it is living.

  21. Theory

    I’m the only one here and everything is dissolving around me at a slow rate until there is nothing left but me, me, me.
    Solipsism with a touch of narcissism.

  22. I find the theory that we are all dead actually intriguing. What if our minds created this reality we are in right before the moment we all died. Time is relative, so in order for consciousness not to perish, our minds create an infinite amount of time for us to continue to exist in this parallel reality. We are forever frozen in time in the instant right before our death.

    That theory would explain many inconsistencies. Our memories are far from perfect, and the anomalies of history and our reality are much like a dream state interpretation of our waking reality.

      1. If one reads enough of Chase and Charteris,one finds the fear of death or mortality is the least of thoughts.Living in penury,growing old and senile or simply dying without having experienced sufficient amount of enjoyment is more pertinent.And it’s not only these thrill authors that have propounded such thoughts,many celebrities that include a majority of Irish persons have actually managed to live out such a life.Jack london,JFK,Lennon,Aimee Semple,Birdy Edwards(fictional) to name a few that dared to live, on the face of grim death.

    1. There are some who believe that we are time travelers, as in visiting this timeline from the future. And that could explain the ME effect in part. I believe in this theory, but more than anything it seems to me that we experience reality on an individual basis, as if we are each a universe in ourselves, so that would leave room for many discrepancies. Thank you for this website and to all who contribute, it is very thought provoking!

      As for the ‘we are already dead’ notion. Some of us have literally died, in terms of medical observation, yet are still around to experience ‘this’ shared reality? And it feels totally ‘real’! FWIW

  23. The parallel universes theory (“many worlds interpretation”) was developed to deny the effect of human consciousness on quantum processes/behaviors. The idea was that instead of accepting that our observation of the world influences it, it would be more ‘rational’ to say that everything that could possibly happen does happen, but each happening occurs in a different universe, automatically created every time an observation is made, so we only experience one outcome. I believe there’s sufficient evidence from more recent research to discount this denial of the interaction between mind and matter.
    But where does that leave us in terms of the ME?
    If we exist in the one reality and we witness changes to this reality, then something is causing the changes. Either intentionally, in which case we should consider asking ourselves what patterns or effects the changes have, in order to find out if we can suss out their purpose, or the changes we’re noticing are a side-effect of some other process (data-migration to a new server, as one example of a scenario for which one could argue), in which case we might still be able to contemplate what the process might be that has such effects.
    I’ve mentioned the idea of reality testing (probability values) before but I still haven’t made much headway with that. (Any statisticians/mathematicians/experimental-psych-graduate-students care to help me with this?)

    I’m wondering if anyone has other ideas for how we might get more information about what’s happening? Any remote viewers out there who can think of a set-up for RV that might provide some context? Any physicists or computer scientists with knowledge of error-correcting codes and the like, that might be able to suggest new approaches to this? Any creative-thinkers/sci-fi writers who have new possible scenarios to suggest that might account for what we’re experiencing?

    I’m not saying I’m 100% against the idea of parallel worlds existing, I’m just not wanting to get stuck on that, missing an opportunity to gain more information about what might be the true nature of our existence.

    1. Vignette, I agree. I’m very interested in other explanations, and RV might be another way to look into this topic. I’m not sure how, but RV is so very odd anyway, why not ask if people can “see” into a parallel reality? Of course, we can’t work with coordinates to set it up… can we? This gets very confusing, quickly, but it’s such an intriguing idea, I’ll be fascinated to see if others have suggestions.

      (Also, I’m moving this to the Possible Explanations thread, as I think that’s more appropriate.)

    2. Hi, Vignette,

      Your thought about autocorrecting codes got me thinking about Shannon, Leech, and information density. I have an idea or two, but they’re not terribly promising:

      If there is an underlying self-correcting code to the universe, then one might detect its presence in mathematical descriptions of field interactions [1]. Such a presence might present itself in a non-obvious setting — the 17th century Wallis formula for pi presents itself within the orbitals of hydrogen [2]. A self correcting code begs the question of how much error falls within the autocorrecting capability, before defaulting to an error; this is known as the Hamming distance [3].

      Treating variable properties as dimensions of freedom (not necessarily physical dimensions of motion) categorizes an item uniquely, and with further identifying variables identifies a specific item uniquely (rather like an address identifies a building generally by country, and increasingly specifically through increasingly local areas, until you’ve reached the exact house and number [or apartment thereof]). Although an address can be misprinted, a redundancy of multiple instances of that address permit one to check each instance against the rest, and conclude that a given aberrant address is less likely to be correct than the majority of instances in agreement with one another. This is meant to display an analogy of coding self-correction.

      Any given degree of redundancy increases the likelihood of accuracy, but also the amount of information packed into each item being verified, whether it’s a house address, computer code, or otherwise. Claude Shannon showed [4] that error rates can be caused to become vanishingly (non-zero) small.

      As the number of dimensions of freedom involved increases (perhaps awkwardly), the density of nearest neighbors increases [5] [6] [7] [8] [9].

      Harmonic resonances essentially self-reinforce (as with hitting the acoustic root tone in a tiled room), much like a self-correcting code. Such self-correcting code could arguably be evidenced by quantum energy levels, though that would be only an interpretation, rather than proof. If particles were observed that didn’t have properties appropriate for them, then it might be consistent with an overlapping of such self-correcting codes’ domains [10] [11], but proving that it wasn’t consistent with a more detailed understanding of only a single universe might be impossible. (Mind you, it _definitely_ makes me think about holodecks…)

      …. (Hamming code conjectured to be within SuSy)

      …. (Wallis formula for pi, within l orbitals of hydrogen)

      …. (margin of autocorrection before error slips through)

      …. (finite, though arbitrarily small, error rates)

      …. (d24 Leech lattice, d48 packing)

      …. (a quick overview of packing n-dimensional spheres)

      …. (greater detail of hypersphere packing [6])

      …. (a less-technical [and generally more-informative] description of kissing numbers than [6] or [7])

      …. (specific data on kissing numbers for d1-d40, and 7 nonconsecutive higher dimensions)

      …. (frequency overlap differences: beats, roughness, Tartini tone [subtractive difference])

      …. (difference tone)

      1. Addendum: due to the combinatorial nature of quarks [1], one glaring possibility would be an observation of an electrically doubly negative [triquark] baryon (and/or doubly positive [triantiquark] antibaryon) [2] [3]. By extension, I suppose that a non-exotic [q-q_bar, presumably] meson [4] [5] possessing other than 0 or abs.val. |1| electrical charge would suit, as well. In either case, such an object would normally necessitate a radical restructuring of quark theory, but could be consistent with it being alien to our universe.

        Note 1: I recognize that Wikipedia isn’t typically considered a reliable source of academic information, but I can vouch for the material currently present on the reference pages below, so I’ve simply stuck to Wiki for convenience in this instance. For in depth and comprehensive details, I’d suggest the Particle Data Group [6].






        … (Particle Data Group)

  24. Hi Fiona! I just read a post by F.J. asking about commonalities among ME-ers, or maybe among Berentstein-ers (as that seems to be the most popular ‘event’). I’m wondering if you could do a poll about sleeping habits/insomnia.
    Because I wonder whether the ME is related to a simulated reality, or whether it has to do with manipulation of our memories, I’m wondering if, in either case, overwriting/changes are made when we sleep. If we’re not sleeping when everyone else is, or if our sleep is different, is our susceptibility to the ‘reprogramming’ different, resulting in our memories not matching the new reality?
    If we could compare the ratio of Berensteiners with insomnia/regular-slee-disturbances to the general population, we could at least see if this idea can be discounted, or if there is some correlation.

    I saw your poll question about tinnitus. I don’t have tinnitus, but I do have Fibromyalgia. I read a post here recently about muscle pains and empaths. Fibromyalgia is the diagnosis given when you have a host of symptoms, including chronic pain, but the doctor can’t find what’s causing the problem and all your blood tests come back ‘normal’. 🙂
    Maybe we could look at rates of chronic-pain illnesses among ME-ers in comparison to the general population?

    The more we can find out about who experiences the ME, the more information we have to figure out how to investigate what might be happening.
    I don’t like the over-reliance on ‘parallel universes’ as an explanation. It keeps us in a powerless, passive state, believing we’re just at the mercy of random fluctuations that shift us about within a multiverse.
    Also, to me, there’s something odd about the number of changes related to language and names.
    We’re not seeing people say they remember all sheep or swans used to be black and now they’re mostly white, or other such differences (evolutionary differences that would require only the slightest difference in environment over a small time-period to bring about a drastic observable change).

    Those are my 2am thoughts for you. 🙂 Thank you for reading.

    1. As a fellow insomniac I would also be interested in seeing a poll question regarding sleep disturbances (insomnia, sleepwalking, narcolepsy, sleep paralysis, sleep apnea, etc). My sleep study results showed that I don’t really go into deep restorative sleep. The idea that without that sleep we’re missing the “updating” is both kind of scary and kind of cool.
      I Also wanted to add that I was a lucid dreamer as a child, up until I told sn adult that I could control my dreams and they said it wasn’t possible, then I lost the ability (makes me think of a glitch being corrected).

  25. Mandela Effect: Part theory; part life experience in general.

    I have noticed several persons try to brush off ME as a result of confusion from television movies. This one fact would never apply to most of my life. My rearing does not include TV. Aside from random Saturday morning cartoons or documentaries on PBS. Then came Pong, Atari, Nintendo, etc. and the bonding times between myself and my parental unit. I mostly had books, and a phonograph/8-track/cassette/radio. I was attracted to the atypical fantasy, science, math lifestyle.

    Part of my theory is this is older than some people may realize. We have time periods of being “awake” and “asleep”. During the periods of “asleep” we are simply one of the other sheeple, living day to day, “work, eat, sleep”. This either being a result of triggers or lack thereof, that in and of itself could show a pattern of timelines being more like a synchronization of phases. Similar to the theory of electricity. Furthermore, the phases here have a commonality to time/space/energy – any time something is out of phase it is corrected; otherwise, there is damaging effects. This thought process completely invalidates inifinte possibilities as the energy flow itself would need to have equal and opposite finite defined paths of energy. One could picture a semblance of a vision similar to the DNA helix of multiple strands moving in a rhythm around a central axis. From an “oncoming” view this could simply resemble a vortex.

    This could possibly help in the average paranormal phenomenon – residual energy overlay from an alternate time/space at intersecting points of phases. The Bermuda triangle could simply be a connection point to a polar opposite existence. Plus this could follow the generic ruling of our universe – nearly everything is circular.

    Just my 2 cents.

  26. I have been noticing some good book, movie, tv, and music references that directly relate to ME or are relevant in some way. Maybe you could start a page where we can collect, share, and discuss these?

    I am someone who tends to notice patterns like this in art, and I also use art, movies and music especially, for coping, so a page like this for me would be both useful and enjoyable.

    Maybe some of these artists have experienced the same things we have. I don’t know if they are using art to cope, or maybe art is a way to communicate certain things without getting into trouble. Maybe the artist is just channeling something, or we are gathering our own meaning from our personal, subjective experience of it. Whatever it is, though, it is useful all the same.

    I recently found another one I wanted to share. Foo Fighters’ “Echoes Silence Patience and Grace”, the entire album, is worth a listen or three. And at least two songs in particular, The Pretender, and Erase Replace.

    I feel like I was led to find it, by the universe or whatever. I was at a Foo Fighters show. I am very familiar with their older albums, but knew almost nothing of this one. I was kind of zoning out on this one song I didn’t really know, and I got two gentle pats on the arm from a stranger who was just passing through the crowd, causing me to pay attention. The lyrics being repeated at that moment were “who are you?” I went home and looked up the song and album. I definitely needed to listen to it at this point in my life. I think others here might appreciate it too.

    1. Well Anne, i did suggest up that some authors could access other worlds, some of the books feel so real as to be unreal that its just fiction, and Mike H i believe said other artists could have access.. and i am quite sure its possible. Where does the creative mind get the ideas from.. yes a lot could be imagination but how do you say this is imagination and this is not.. Am sure like most of us you question your own mind, and ask it is it my imagination.. or is it real.. So I say its possible that artists in all media some can connect to a another reality.

      1. Interesting, Martin. I wonder how many people in these conversations consider themselves artists, or feel a strong connection to the arts. From earliest childhood, I was a writer and a visual artist.

      2. Oh I definitely think it’s possible. I do consider myself an artist, but I can only speak from my own artistic process. I couldn’t speak to any other’s process or what realms of inspiration they draw from.

        I just don’t like to get too caught up in the language or define it too much. When I say “just channeling something” I did not mean to minimize what is going on. I think every artist is a conduit and is channeling something into their work. Whether you call that source God, creator, universe, yourself, I don’t think it matters. I think it is all the same.

  27. I have been wondering 3 am thought again.. was thinking about the Hum.. If you dont know about it at certain places around the world theres a small percentage of people who hear a hum ” Hum is what is perceived as a persistent low-frequency sound, often described as being comparable to that of a distant diesel engine idling, or to some similar low-pitched sound for which obvious sources” I am wondering if these arent Portal hums.. semi permanent holes.. if you look at, the most interesting things i saw is that New zealand is covered..could it be a coincidence… of course as with anything dealing with us Pesky humans LOL.. there could be misreporting, errors, but so many people and in places i feel have a connection and since a lot of us on here have heard a whistle hum.. thought it was interesting and the ratio of 2% of people in the areas can hear it.. one of the other curious things is the age “People who can hear the Hum are very often in their 40s or older.” which i feel is a close match to the mandela age ranges. Would be interesting to see if someone who have experienced a mandela effect can hear the hum as well..

    1. I have seen that site before and the reportings are mostly of low humming sounds. I heard a low hum sound like a truck in the middle of the night before but it went away within minutes. However, the E note (using a violin) I hear is constant.

      (Color frequency E note => dark indigo to violet, high energy, nearer to invisible spectrum…?)
      Female voice equivalent range of violin. Male voice substantially lower.

      1. Holy cow…. that’s MY vibration too. Last night I was on the reddit and Fiona had brought this up but the two Hz tones she used didn’t match my pitch…. the violin e matches perfectly to mind. How weird.

        1. ayla, the mention of “Fiona” concerned me because I’m definitely _not_ at Reddit and haven’t commented on Hz tones. So, it might be helpful if you can link to the Reddit post or add whatever surname the other Fiona is using. (“Fiona” isn’t an unusual given name. I’m sure there are many of us. I just don’t want readers at this site to think I’d said anything at the Reddit group. I haven’t.)

  28. I heard the first whistle hum for ages last night at 1.29 am in the UK it lasted about a minute but it was faint not as sharp a sound,

    1. Interesting. I was woken up by one at about 10.30 am Eastern time (US) which would be 3.30 am in the UK. It’s still with me, so — as soon as I finish moderating comments — I’ll be looking up acupressure points to see if I can (finally) get it to stop, and focus on my work.

  29. Possible explanation for multiple memories:

    We all live and reincarnate from year X, say 5000 BC.
    When we reach a specific year Y, say 2012 AD, souls either evolve through 2012 and beyond or start over at 5000 BC.

    What we could be experiencing is the effect and cause of those going through time again from 5000 BC to 2012 AD.

    Brain Freeze!

  30. Possibly when CEFN was activated to find Haggs boson aka god particle, it resulted in either…

    1. Destruction of the universe as predicted by Stephen Hawking that somehow people got ‘rescued’ by divine intervention perhaps to a parallel universe.


    2. Convergence of parallel universes into one another drawing people from different realities into this new reality or others.

    Either way, a rift in the fabric of time and space may have been created that caused a reality shift that got corrected by switching between parallel universes. Same shit but different history.

  31. So I’ve been thinking a lot about possible causes for ME lately. I am definitely (definAtely? lol) an empath and have had psychic experiences my whole life. But one of the most striking things was a dream I had recently that–I confess–could have come from browsing this site for hours. But my dream was that in this reality I was considered dead, but I was right there. At first I thought I was a ghost but then realized I had just shifted out of this reality and needed to be brought back into it. I was trying so hard to contact people from my reality and realized I had to do it like one’s typical ghost movie (moving objects, typing things into a computer, etc). When I was on the computer I found other people making posts on this site that only I could see (my new reality, I suppose) who were having the same experiences. Eventually I got through, and my family here considered me a ghost, but I was trying to tell them I was just in another reality. It was such a vivid dream. And then reading this thread I saw almost the same theory presented about who “ghosts” really are. Not gonna lie, that gave me chills.

    I know this is more of a personal experience than anything, but I definitely think there could possibly be some credence to the “ghost” theory or to people who could potentially be crossing or are maybe able to be aware of other realities/have differing memories of other realities without actually being in those realities.

    The time marker theories are interesting too. I wonder if there’s some kind of pattern. ME does seem to be focused on minor changes in entertainment/logos, celebrity deaths or other major news events repeating/happening in different years, or different spellings/meanings of words. I wonder if that is intentional and, if the time traveler/dimension crosser theories are accurate, things are so heavily concentrated in these areas of life so those people know where to look.

    I wonder if we’ll ever really know for sure.

    1. Alex S,
      Very interesting theory and post. I don’t discount anything ( and question everything) anymore. I have seen too many unexplainable’s in my life.

      Your last paragraph is exactly what I was posting about in the Red/Blue thread, you make some excellent points! Very well put. Like who or whatever wants us to notice. Mike H.

  32. Something i have noticed over the last few weeks/days is that people are putting the mandela effect into the conspiracy theory category. Now i have a problem with that. Whenever someone says conspiracy they think wild tin foil hat wearing people, and people tend to dismiss it. But to my mind its not like that.

    I wonder if a few people are creating the impression we are all nuts, when the majority of us are clever people, and skilled in our fields, not to mention our backgrounds. I wonder if some people who do think it is are in a denial phase, and they are trying to find a reason that says they are wrong, so my “false” memories must be wrong too. rather than think of the implications. Whether this is a personal dismissal, or something more i dont know.. Even some of the so called “proofs” that we are wrong are based on false assumptions… ALL i know is something strange is going on, my own pet theory is different to some, doesnt mean i am right, but from what i know and experienced its the best fit.

    Somedays i wish i was wrong about the mandela effect universe, to go back to a “sane” world. but I know something is different and strange. It does seem that more people are getting the idea that something is weird, I am not dismissing their theories because i have no real evidence that they are wrong or right. i see questions, and flaws in their ideas but that could just me being too picky. I try to keep an open mind.

    another 3 am thought i guess

    1. Martin, it’s a very good thought, in my opinion. I’m glad you raised this issue. I’ve noticed the same trend, and haven’t decided what to do about it.

      On one hand, if a comment includes good and valid insights, I want to approve it and leave the conspiracy portions out. Lately, they’ve been impossible to separate, so I’m deciding between deleting those kinds of comments and approving them, as-is.

      On the other, I’m looking at the Diffusion of Innovation curve. I’m wondering if we’re at the point where this topic is attracting a few people who are using as a place to both feel as if they’re part of the cool crowd and to get their daily adrenaline spike by leaping into conspiracy topics.

      The John D comment was a red flag, at least partly due to his (or her) use of language. It reads like papers by people involved in the American military and government.

      That gives me three possibilities:

      1. He’s an insider/whistleblower telling us something important and true.
      2. He’s an insider (or a prankster) telling us what he thinks we want to hear, while mixing in enough ridiculous points to use as “look at what these gullible people will believe” material.
      3. He’s good at mimicking speech patterns and vocabulary used by government workers, and has his own reasons for posting what he did.

      I want to believe he (and others) are sincere. However, I’m leaning towards point 2, because some of his data seems particularly odd and, in my context, sometimes illogical.

      I let the comment through because I could be wrong.

      However, now that I know I’m not the only one uneasy about the gradual (but clearly increasing) trend towards conspiracy contexts, I may stop approving those comments.

      It’s not that I’m dismissing their ideas, but other websites excel at those kinds of discussions. I don’t want to become a “me, too” website. It needs to remain credible enough to provide support to those with alternate memories… without making them feel even more as if they’re a bit mad.

      Thanks again, Martin. I appreciate you taking the time to post this comment.

      1. Martin, first off excellent post! I agree 100% with what you said. I hope people will read this post, it’s important in a “where do we go from here” standpoint. I catch myself every now and then trying to “tie everything together” as far as theories around the ME. So far , no luck. Anyway if you were here I would give you a standing ovation. Great post.

        Fiona, well said——–and as usual the “best moderator” I have seen, anywhere. Really. As for the other topic , you know where I stand. I have an open mind, but sometimes , it’s just too good to be true. Time will tell. Mike H.

        1. Some of the posts are great, some bring different views, while i may not agree to some interpretations, it is interesting to me to see the path people get to the place. I try to avoid making arguments because dealing with peoples beliefs is tricky and dangerous.

          As i said i always have questions even with the official ideas, if we dont question everything then we know nothing but what we have been told. We all know that there is misinformation accidentally spread and Disinformation maliciously spread.. Its a hard to find which it is. To me the path from something odd is happening, whether it is mass memory failings (very unlikely in my opinion but always a possibility), to a deliberate change (unlikely but not impossible). If we can find a reason on HOW it could happen we could be a step closer to finding the truth.. Some of the ideas i have been reading about they are interesting and have a few good points but i find some other points to be slightly absurd but i am not dismissing them, I Still have to question everything. its my nature. I have no absolute proof they are wrong, or right.

          Whats the answer, I havent a clue, we can only be logical and gentle speaking to others, and maybe showing them something is happening, rather than getting angry and frustrated.. I get that way i want to grab some of these people and shake them til they see things are happening.. but that would do a injustice to the people here and fiona in particular. They would be tarred by my anger and anything else said will be more likely to be dismissed. Too many questions not enough answers, We need to show that we arent tin hat wearing people, that we have logical, valid points to just show something weird is happening.. unfortunately the word “conspiracy” tends to automatically put people into that mind set.

          jsut a few of my thoughts

      2. Fiona, There’s a memorable story,The Pearls of Peace,again by the charming,Charteris.Mrs. Jocelyn Ormond former wife of Ned Yarn,speaks out her mind with such vicious and lecherous manner that the text is a classic composition, worthy of a most original author.The text rings eerily like the pranksters that are out to make fun of ME,just for the heck of it.

      3. You are right to delete those comments. In surfing many forums, you will see that there are many clever folks who get paid to derail topics, or an entire site. This happens when the community is “on to something” or is generally against the norm.

      4. It is difficult. Truth (and now it appears reality) is actively muddied by vested interests, yet this itself is a conspiracy. Discernment is the most important skill to develop at this point in time.

        To discount ‘conspiracy theory’ as a whole does tend to block off many avenues of inquiry. For example, if it is a technology (and by that I don’t necessarily mean a machine) that is bringing about this phenomenon merely scratching the surface of this avenue of inquiry gets one into the conspiracy realm.

        Breakaway civilisations, black budgets, ancient megalithic cultures, occult practicing bankers, UFO’s and all sorts of areas can come into play if one explores the possible technological underpinnings of this phenomenon. There will of course be dead ends and red herrings but at this stage no idea is too wild to be dismissed before examination. Discernment is critical and I for one am glad Fiona has a good nose for government types and a good grasp of writing styles.

  33. I’ve recently found this site and wanted to add my “theory” to the mix. First, though, I’d like to compliment everyone here, especially Fiona, on maintaining such a HEALTHY community! Many times groups such as this can fall prey to conflict and burn themselves down. My hat is off to everyone here.

    Now, for my theory. There is a unifying theory called “M” theory or Membrane theory. The basics of this theory are the that our reality is “stretched” flat and due to that stretching and flattening it vibrates, like a drum head. Also, in order to maintain the constance of information, the multiple universe theory places these flat universes beside one another like the pages in a book. With this model its fairly easy to imagine how neighboring universes that are vibrating could, on occasion, collide and “blend” momentarily. I’m speculating that these collisions could cause this “blending” of information as well and, therefor, cause these memory anomalies.

    Thanks again everyone, and I hope to have the opportunity to chat with all of you!

  34. Several comments have been made here regarding Bashar. After learning about him, I thought I would share some of his ideas that are relevant to this discussion.
    There is no time. Everything is happening all at once.
    There are an infinite number of parallel realities, and we are constantly switching from parallel reality to parallel reality. Each parallel reality consists of only a moment, and it is the movement from one parallel reality to another that creates the illusion of time. Most of the time, each parallel reality is so similar to the previous one that we don’t even notice the difference. It is easier to have a sense of continuity, but we do have the ability to move to a reality much different than the one we are experiencing now. (Learning how to guide our path through our lives deliberately and purposefully is the challenge – for me anyway!)
    We are living in a shared reality with others, but each of us is experiencing our own reality – it is not the same reality for everyone.
    I don’t know anything for sure, but I thought these ideas were fascinating!

    1. I forgot to mention an important idea. He also says that when we die in our reality, we are given the choice to continue our live in a parallel reality as if we had never died, but simply had a “close call”. This brings to mind for me not only the near misses that I have had (a near drowning, a tree falling directly in front of me, a narrowly escaped car crash, etc) but also all of the “dead” celebrities. We have simply switched from a reality in which they died into one in which they got a second chance at life. I love the idea of us getting another chance, or two or three or more, perhaps to make a better choice this time.
      Personally, I have felt certain turning points in my life, making one decision or another, and I wonder if this is when we switch realities, when we make the choice to act or think differently. I like the idea that if I mess things up I can get a second chance, but it’s also got me thinking about the choices I am making now. I’m thinking about the movie “Family Man”, and how a glimpse into another reality gave him the impetus to make changes in this reality.

      1. Jasmine, You’re explaining NDE with a ME perspective,I have expressed this idea several times in this site with an additional twist that the alternate worlds might have lower rate of entropy to enable the worthy, their full due.

      2. Jasmine – you’ve tied a lot of bows for me. I’ve been having these same ideas, especially the one about death. I’ve entertained the idea but blew it off, now with you explaining Bashar teachings, I’m kinda really intrigued. These are very similar to ideas I’ve had or learned in the past …
        Making major changes in ones life could be where these jumps occur….death works there but I think the suicide thing is a conspirator trap possibly to stay in the densest 3D reality … you don’t want that as i feel it would be like wanting to be in jail. Accidental death, close calls … as much as I dont like these ideas they are resonating positively with me in that it makes some sense and it gives answers to glitches, changes in people, and differences all together.

        1. I agree with a lot of this, though I don’t know anything about Bashar. Looking back, I have had a lot of “close calls”. I’ve also had a couple of fast and major life changes, based on a single decision and big leap of faith. I am starting to think that suicide won’t get a person out of anything (fortunately, or unfortunately, depending on your perspective.)

  35. Here are some of my theories (many I see discussed already — great minds think alike). Of these, I personally lean toward the death, intention manifestation or reentry theories, due to personal experiences.

    Prime Consciousness
    Assumptions: The multiverse consists of near infinite timelines. Each additional timeline splits off of timeline 1 (the timeline shooting straight out of the first moment in time) every time there is more than a single possible choice or outcome. You can imagine how massive this mess of timelines would be after just a single moment. Each individual exists in as many timelines as their existence is possible at once. While all iterations of an individual appear to be conscious, only one is inhabited by his/her “prime” consciousness.
    If upon death the body in question houses the “prime” consciousness, this consciousness will slip into the nearest timeline in which the individual is still living. The individual will likely be unaware of the move, as it will be instantaneous, and will go about their life unaware that in a few possible realities away he/she was just killed by, say, that red car that nearly blew through a stop light, but managed to notice and break just in time. Anything else that was different in the losing timeline will quickly be blurred in memory as new history and information presses in. The entire shift is likely to go unnoticed, unless there is a very large, or marked difference in the new reality.
    -Intention Manifestation
    Assume that intention manifestation does indeed work, but not in the way we think. We do not in fact bend reality to our will in any fashion, but instead shift timelines at will until our “prime” consciousness resides in a timeline similar to our desired outcome. We must assume that similar timelines are grouped closer to each other, as they branched from a common thread. This would explain why it is difficult to affect any huge change through intention manifestation, such as regrowing a limb, as both a reality in which technology is advanced to this point and a reality in which a limb was never lost are much further from the current timeline.
    Perhaps consciousness shifts are completely natural, or completely random, but go largely unnoticed. On that note, any theory like this would really not be necessary until now, as not too long ago humans did not possess such elaborate social networks, and could not exchange information so quickly and with such a large audience. The likelihood of stumbling upon someone with similar experiences without the help of a search tool or a forum would be very small. Even should it have happened, it would likely be brushed aside as coincidence and false memory. Without the flow of information that we have from radio, television and the internet, people would also have a much smaller world-view, and world-changing events would not be as visible to everyone at once, leading to significantly fewer conflicts of memory.

    Collective Consciousness
    Assumptions: Reality is the same as in Prime Consciousness, but no single consciousness is any different from the next.
    As each individual dies, his/her consciousness is assimilated into the consciousness of the same individual on the nearest timeline in which he/she is still alive. Memories would likely match to a large degree, but there would be minute differences that could go unnoticed.

    Timeline Collapse
    Timelines naturally or randomly collapse back into the nearest timeline, taking on the characteristics of the remaining reality. Some individuals do not assimilate properly, and have remnants of the collapsed reality appear in memory.
    The end of a timeline is caused by some catastrophe of universal proportions. The timeline ends abruptly and melds back into the nearest surviving reality. The unnatural conditions of this theory leave some people confused with mixed memories.

    Butterfly Effect
    -Time Travel
    Multiple timelines are irrelevant to this theory. Assume that time travel has recently been realized (known to the public or not), and through irresponsible travel someone has managed to change the course of history. The change would be instantaneous in the present, and would seem as though it were always that way to most. We must also assume that human memory is not completely stored in the body. Some may retain the memory of how it once was until it fades. There would of course be no physical evidence that anything was ever different. How one would go about changing something as fundamental as plate tectonics, however, is beyond me…

    Pushing Thoughts
    -Thought Control
    It has been theorized lately that some agencies have developed technology that is able to push thoughts into people’s minds without them knowing. If this technology is able to engrain false memories, as well as influence present thought, those of us with false memories may just be the unwilling victims of thought control experiments.

    Those of us who have left our bodies at any point, be it OBE, Astral Projection, or maybe even Lucid Dreaming, unknowingly reenter through a slightly different timeline or reality. Perhaps each and every time. Who are we to know for certain, when we don’t fully understand the mechanics leaving the body, and all we have to go on is our memories of the previous timeline.

    Shared Mind Slip
    Imagine again that we exist on many, many timelines all at once. Imagine that our mind is actually external from our bodies, not wholly located or depending upon our brain. Imagine that there is a veil in place, as some would surmise, that keeps us from knowing many things while we are alive on Earth. Imagine that were this veil to be lifted, we would find that all versions of ourself actually share a common mind. What if information from one of our incarnations slipped through this veil to another, and this is the out of place memories that we have.

  36. Here’s a new possible cause that’s had an experiment to prove it’s possible released in Nature recently: quantum entanglement. From the article (citation:, citation 2: : Eighty years after Einstein dismissed the idea of quantum entanglement as “spooky”, Dutch scientists say they have proved the effect is real, and that simply observing one particle can instantly change another far-away object.
    Researchers detailed an experiment in the journal Nature this week that showed how two electrons at separate locations 1.3 km apart on the Delft University of Technology campus demonstrated a clear, invisible and instantaneous connection.
    Importantly, the new study closed loopholes in earlier tests that had left some doubt as to whether the eerie connection predicted by quantum theory was real or not.

    This means that everything regardless of distance could be connected instantaneously regardless of any physical effects. Forget the butterfly effect. These particles changed just because one was observed. Think about the implications of that. We live in a quantumly entangled world. Berenstein could have just changed because it just changed. It doesn’t need a reason. It doesn’t need time travelers. It changed because the universe decided it would. This has huge implications for reality. I’m not sure how you even begin to understand how massively connected everything is based upon this. Our reality can continue to change on a whim. We just need to accept that. I begin to understand why every civilization believes in some form of a higher power. How else would you explain how massively complex our universe is. There’s something watching all of this, and making decisions on how things execute. They change the code when they want to. We get to observe the runtime 🙂

      1. Dan,
        This actually explains the ME. Nice research, and well explained. I agree with Fiona, I am beyond speechless. Things change, just because they can. WOW! No reason needed. Thought provoking, to say the least. Mike H.

    1. The evidence we’re living in a simulation is overwhelming. I think most people here are familiar with the split beam test, and how observation changes matter from a wave into a particle. I was watching a video last night and what *I* didn’t realize was as they progressed through the test, they moved the camera further down the line. What’s really trippy is as soon as the “conscious” atom notices the camera it goes back and turns into a particle before it goes through the split. Ostensibly, going back in time. Chew on that for a minute. Time is illusory and evidently so is this reality. Fiona, I tried to post two comments yesterday. Naturally, you can decide what you allow. I’m puzzled because they seemed rather benign, but anyway. Warm regards, Jason

      1. And just for clarification, it had already passed through the split as a wave. Once observed, it then somehow passed through as a particle. I’m still trying to wrap my head around it. Good morning!

    2. We’re way beyond Einstein.

      The article is only part of the story – reality is not changed on a whim. It is changed by intentionality. The question is now who’s intentionality , how are they changing reality and most importantly … WHY ?

    3. Great info Dan! Coincidentally I missed this post as well as others over past three weeks. Though I’m sure I checked?!?

  37. I’ve had some thoughts bouncing around in my head, please bear with me while I try communicate them sensibly.

    We’ve touched on the idea of the changes being markers of sorts. My mind keeps going back to DNA letters (ATCG). So for the sake of this example let’s talk about DNA. I would also like to add that man made DNA has already been made in bacteria. The two “extra” letters that have been invented are X and Y, but that’s just the beginning as they are trying to create artificial RNA as well as more DNA letters.

    If reliable time travel is ever invented, it could allow for genetic (or other) experiments in real time. This would be very very high stakes experimentation, but it’s not hard to imagine a future where the circumstances would be so dire as to warrant the risks of such experimenting (overpopulation, famine, climate change, etc.) Such experiments could be for nefarious purposes (eugenics, eliminating populations from developing areas), but they could also be an attempt to save us (perhaps engineering humans who require less protein, crops that feed more people, alternative energy, “stop” genes to irradicate alzeimers, cancer, etc.)
    Now, imagine that all points in time exist simultaneously. Let’s call the future point A, 2015 point B, and sometime in the past (let’s just say 1900 for the sake of this demonstration) point C. Point A (future) is where the directions/code originate, point C (past) is where the message is sent to, and point B (our presennt) is where the directions are carried out, allowing the person at point A to see the end results. Why send the directions to point C (past) instead of point B? The biggest reason would be increasing the odds of the message being delivered. For example, if a messenger is sent directly to point B, they could get hit by a bus and the message would never be delivered. If the messenger goes to point C, and makes one change (changing the E to A in berenstain for example), the message would be everywhere at point B, thus increasing the odds of the message being received. It would also allow those at point A to know when a message has arrived successfuly, as the markers would show up in their time as well. I can imagine someone who’s job it is to comb through thousands of references daily, spotting changes (directions) for scientists at point B to use, or to check at point A that the message went through. Another reason to send the messages to the past is the world being less populated, and of course in 1900 camera phones weren’t in everyone’s pockets.

    I see a lot of flaws in this idea (for example, why do some of us notice the changes), but the idea just won’t leave my thoughts so I felt the need to share here.

    I still am stumped as to what could cause georgrphic changes, but I keep thinking of how fracking can cause earthquakes in areas with no historical seismic activity, and wonder if very agressive (LARGE scale) oil/gas drilling could cause continental movement. However, I’m still leaning towards natural causes for this. I digress.

    One more thought related to why only some people notice changes: some minds are more suggestible than others. I tried hypnosis to quit smoking a few years ago, and I was never able to be hypnotized, despite my own willingness and desire to have it work. After several sessions I gave up, it just doesn’t work on me. However, I can put myself into a trance like state…hard to explain but it’s strange. Not saying I’m special, but if our minds (who notice changes) are less malleable than others, the changes just might not “take” for us (our stubborn minds hold on to the old way, or create a dual memory to deal with the cognitive dissonance).

    Not sure if any of that made sense. I don’t think this is *the* explanation, but since it wouldn’t leave my brain I thought I should throw it out there.

    1. Wow, maybe you are unto something agout the genetic changes, if the changes some of us noticed about our inners are any indication. Let’s say some unknown party could go back in time and manipulate our genes, heart, lungs, intestines; let’s say it was to give us some resistances to some virus or infection? Let’s say it was to weaken us, on the contrary? Or let’s say they failed to strenghten us? The implications are huge, and worth pondering a bit.

      The geographic changes reminds me of a PSX game called Chrono Cross. In it, humans in the future geo-engineered an entire archipelago 10 000 years into their past, maintaining it secluded to avoid huge future changes. It makes me think about how the geographic changes we have feels pretty low profile, like the way most “not quite dead” celebrities are.

      What I find interesting is that when I ask about Mongolia, or the mirror in Snow White, for instance, many people remember the “other way”, but when I tell them of the current reality, they readily accept that their memories is just faulty. It’s like a lot of time, it’s not really that this reality has completely taken over, but more that there’re residuals everywhere, and people just choose to ignore it.

      I tried self-hypnosis a few times and failed, but I don’t think it necessarly means I’m not hypnotisable. In fact, from what I researched at the time, pretty much everyone should be potentially hypnotisable, but since there is a degree of consent and trust needed in between the hypnotizee and the hypnotist needed, it doesn’t always work. I would certainly be interested to know if anyone else had tried to get hypnotized, though.

      Anyways, thoses are certainly interesting thoughts to ponder.

      1. Helene, I’ve never heard of that game, but the concept of geoengineering landmasses is something to think about. Humans have changed the earth in many ways…it doesn’t sound impossible.

        I haven’t talked to many people about this topic yet. I’ve noticed like you that most people quickly assume the new way, and even if they acknowledge a change, they don’t want to admit anything is weird about that or think about it further. My husband has been that way when I talk to him about this stuff. It’s disappointing. I was sure he would be enthusiastic and also share some of my memories. I’m glad I have everyone here.

  38. This is an add on to my above post, and
    ties in with what Dan and Jason Thomas were saying about particles changing when observed. If a change was made in say 1900, (berenstain for example) it would have “always” been Berenstein, as it would have occurred long before any of us here were born. But, if all points in time exist simultaneously, and the past was being changed, then some part of our consciousness could remember the way it was before the change, which happened before we were born, but also after we were born of that makes sense. If a particle, upon observation, can essentially travel back in time and change, perhaps the act of *observing* a change in our time causes a retroactive change in reality, and/or a divergent timeline. For most people, their memories would be overwritten by the new, dominant memory that reflects the current reality. For some reason, some people have the residual memory from before the change occurred (this of course leads to another rabbit hole- what, if anything, do we all have in common).

    I’m going off topic for a sec, but I want to mention it while I’m thinking of it: We remember an earth with alternate geography. What about alternate climate? In recent years we’ve had record breaking storms and temperatures all over the planet, one after another. These super storms and huge earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes, record breaking cold/heat/droughts etc. are generally thought of as a result of climate change. Could It be that this earth, with the new geography, has always had such severe weather? I mean, the sky even looks different than some of us remember. To be clear, I’m not denying climate change, just pondering if it’s more complex than we think.

    I hope this makes sense. Also please forgive my spelling errors. I’m on my phone and errors slip by, while I think faster than I can type on this tiny screen.

  39. We live in an era when a large number of people have had miracles. Have you ever surveyed your friends? As for me, I know 4 people who have heard the name of their future mate–before actually meeting these future partners. Other people have heard from deceased loved ones. Another common one is to hear a warning about an impending disaster, eg hearing “change into the right lane quickly.” I classify these as being “mental” miracles, and they consistently guide the hearer to good things.

    But some people have also experienced “physical” miracles, too—involving THINGS, not words. One friend saw an office computer typing by itself, and to complicate things further, the computer wasn’t even plugged in. Another: my daughter was teaching an English class in Mexico, but was having trouble hearing her students because of the rowdy class next door. She and her assistant went to talk with the offending class of students. They knocked on the door & the classroom fell silent. When nobody opened the door, my daughter opened it herself. Then…she & her assistant saw that there was nobody at all inside the classroom.

    Also in Mexico (2002 or 2003,) there was a widespread occurrence of paint colors changing. Pictures of the Virgen de Guadalupe are everywhere in that country—from paintings in the home to murals on the sides of buildings. People were reporting that the Virgen’s belt was changing from black to white in some of these pictures. My own guess was mischievous vandalism…because, of course, this couldn’t be happening. As it so happened, my daughter was living in Guadalajara right during the middle of this time…and I paid her a visit.

    My daughter had a Virgen picture hanging in her house. She, a friend & myself looked at it closely. The Virgen had a black belt. It was obvious. We made comments about that, pointed at it, and in other words, focused on the belt quite a bit. Then, my daughter & her friend left the house. I saw them to the door & went back to look at the picture once again. The belt had changed to a mottled black & white color mixture…and it had changed in less than 5 minutes. Nobody was there in the house but me. I was scared silly. The darned picture was in the hall outside my room & I had to be creeped-out by it for the remainder of my stay.

    But the point is this—-that sometimes things happen that are planned, not accidental. People hear warnings to avoid accidents. And people can be allowed to see that actual, physical “miracles” indeed happen.

    By thinking that the Many Interacting Worlds effect is happening ONLY due to chance (or other forces out of our control, eg tests at CERN,) we are setting ourselves up to worry when the next “slide” will take place. Because if it happened once, it surely will again.

    In my opinion, the MWI timeline changes could be caused by the Forces of Good just as easily as accidental causes. To some, this might be a crazy idea. But to the many people who have felt some type of miracle, it wouldn’t seem so “out of the question.”

    Motive—preserving humankind from destruction and providing hope. There has never been a time in Earth’s history in which large segments of the population can be wiped off the map so easily. If the Forces of Good were going to demonstrate that their powers are even greater than the atomic bomb & other modern weaponry, then this indeed the time they should make that fact obvious to the warmongers. Multiple, obvious mass miracles (such as Berenstain & New Zealand changes) would also have a positive & uplifting effect upon good folks everywhere, as well. Everyone would know that even though threats abound, there are still forces out there that can provide us comfort, Earthly assistance, and the hint of a life yet to come after this one.

    At least, this explanation is the one which would mean the most to me. The “Many Interacting Worlds” don’t necessarily need to be ALL populated by human beings. Some could be simply pastoral. And just maybe, some of the worlds could be home to the Forces of Good, whether one calls them God, spirits or aliens.

  40. Been watching a few videos and sites.. and theres something the capgras syndrome. its strange that some people think that other people have been replaced with an exact duplicate. I wonder how many of these people actually are experiencing mandela effects. or changelings, similar idea.. How many people have been diagnosed but have experienced the mandela instead

    1. I agree. And, on the other side of things, I wonder how many “incurable” cases of Multiple Personality Disorder were actually people slide in and out at a rapid clip, and with more dramatically different features than the usual. (If there’s a “usual” for MPD, or whatever it’s called now.)

      When I researched MPD, years ago, I was astonished to find out that some people are diabetic in one personality, but not in another. How can that be…? Rhetorical question, as far as I’m concerned: It’s a different version of that person, from a different reality. One had blood sugar issues, and another doesn’t.

      I’m willing to be entirely wrong about this, but I think it bears consideration: Some of what we thought were personality disorders or mental health issues could be Mandela Effect. (But, of course, the skeptical critics will quickly point out that, as far as they’re concerned all of this is mental health issue. LOL)

      1. Hi Fiona – I tried to send you a private email, but it keeps saying failure to send: Is there an alternate route to communicate privately?

        Thank you! (No need to publically post this)

        1. PhoenixRaech, the contact form should be working fine. However, in the past 48 hours or so — including some time, this morning — there have been server issues, including a break (4 Nov 2015, afternoon) for an emergency repair.

          (I’ll delete this comment and yours in about 24 hours.)

          1. Also, I just found your follow-up comment in the spam folder. (Don’t feel offended. To keep this site running faster — pages loading more quickly — I’ve had to use a “lite” spam filter. It makes many mistakes, so I have to skim the spam folder, daily. Yours was not the only comment to land there, overnight.)

            The topic you mentioned — and one I will keep in confidence — is something on my mind for a future article. To me, it seems to explain a lot. A family member had that condition. Nothing cured it, and we couldn’t find triggers that made it more active at certain times. I felt tremendous relief when I could explain it as Mandela Effect. It may not resolve the underlying cause of the issue, but it’s tremendous to have an answer that makes sense — not just in terms of the symptoms, but also to understand why no easy cure seems available.

            P.S. Congratulations to you and your wife for finding each other. I’m so pleased when I hear about couples with such interesting backgrounds in common!

  41. Something interesting here The bizarre nature of reality as laid out by quantum theory has survived another test, with scientists performing a famous experiment and proving that reality does not exist until it is measured. I am wondering if this is linked somehow to the quantum universe. “It proves that measurement is everything. At the quantum level, reality does not exist if you are not looking at it,” said Associate Professor Andrew Truscott from the ANU Research School of Physics and Engineering.

    1. Martin, that’s a brilliant link, thank you! (It’s also chillingly like some of my childhood sort-of nightmares, where everything behind me had vanished, and continued to do so as I turned my head. Only what was in view was actually real. I can’t explain why that seemed so frightening, but — to a child, anyway — it was a very disturbing idea.)

      1. ‘everything behind me had vanished’ -Fiona, your childhood nightmares comment teminded me of the Stephen King movie LANGOLIRES … where the past is devoured … time is eaten away…

        1. Anthony, I’m familiar with that story. King is pretty clever at capturing nightmares in his stories, and taking them to absurd extremes, that — at least in this case (and in Needful Things) — made me laugh out loud.

          I appreciate that, because taking this kind of topic too seriously is — imho — toxic and humor is imperative.

    2. Hi, Martin,

      Although I have read a similar article recently, this particular (no pun intended) article sparked a couple of thoughts for me.

      The first thought was that although the entanglement could be viewed as backward-traveling waves of information (Transactional Interpretation, John Cramer, 1986) [1] [2], I haven’t read anything involving it in quite some time. I don’t know if that’s terribly significant, per se, but it’s a bit eyebrow-raising, now that I think of it.

      The second thought was along the lines of closed timelike curves (CTC) [3]. If one assumes an advanced wave solution (wherein a signal transmits backward in time), how would this be effected (if at all) were one of a particle pair to be accelerated relativistically after the entanglement, but before the observation? For example, if a pair of entangled electrons were arranged such that they must have opposed spins, and only one electron accelerated prior to observation, would the apparently retroactive effect (negative propagation, not complex) be expected to be unaffected by the Lorentz Transformation [4], or might it propagate to an earlier or later point than it might otherwise in an unaccelerated situation, resulting in the dependent electron possessing definite spin before the independent electron’s spin is measured (or contrarily, being undefined even after direct observation)?

      … (Transactional Interpretation, broad overview)

      … (a more detailed analysis of TI than that of [1])

      … (CTC)

      … (Lorentz Transformation, w.r.t. time dilation [and superluminal complex shifts, in particular])

  42. Okay, so…I can understand the thinking behind not wanting to allow comments that have to do with conspiracies, but I still think that it is the wrong call. I am thinking of one possible alternate (pun intended) theory as to why The Mandela Effect is happening that does delve into possible conspiracies, although this one is a bit different than most, so I hope that you will allow it. So, Fiona, have you ever heard of UFO researcher Jacques Vallee? He has a rather unusual theory about what is going on with the subject of UFOs. He seems to believe that we humans are under a control system that is guiding us, and causing our evolution (culturally, at least, and, possibly, physically, as well) to change from what it otherwise would be if we were never under the control system. He believes that UFOs may be part of this attempt to control our evolution. Vallee does not seem to want to venture a statement as to who is behind this control system conspiracy (Humans? Aliens? Spirits? Machines? Some Combination? Something else, entirely?) but he does seem to think that, if this control system is real, then it probably has the ability to physically change physical aspects of the world. This could provide an explanation for The Mandela Effect that does not require alternate universes, or time travel. (though, it is still possible that alternate universes and/or time travel are real, even if Vallee is right) When these shifts happen, the physical world may change to what the world would look like if the past had been different. This would, probably, also include erasing our memories and implanting new memories in us that are in line with what our memories would be if the past had been different. Perhaps Mandela really did die in the 1980s, but then the control system resurrected him and changed most people’s memories so that they did not remember it ever happening. However, if this control system works most of the time, but is not perfect, then there may be some times when some people’s memories do not get changed, like yours. In more extreme cases, this could even explain cases like that of Lerina Garcia, who seems to be living in what seems like a real-life episode of The Twilight Zone where she woke up one day and significant parts of her life had been drastically changed. This could be an explanation for The Mandela Effect. This could also explain the dual memories, as it might be possible that sometimes the control system gives people “new” memories, but fails to erase the “old” memories from these same people’s minds, which would cause these people to have two sets of conflicting memories. Also, since the control system would change most of the physical world during these shifts, but not be perfect, this may explain why some artifacts are left from the “old” reality, like, possibly, the TV Guide issue where The Bears had their name spelled as “Berenstein.” Reading about Vallee’s theories made me make a possible connection to The Mandela Effect, in my mind, so I wanted to put this out for discussion.

    1. Mark, I’m familiar with some of Dr. Vallee’s theories. (Ref. ) I also understand his reluctance to make any statements about who might be behind the control system (if it exists), and whether or not it’s a conspiracy.

      So, I waited a day to approve this comment, and don’t have time to edit out the portions that could lead to off-topic discussions. I’d like not to engage in conversations better continued at sites like AboveTopSecret.

      Nevertheless, the “control system” explanation could be valid, so I’ve approved this as part of the Possible Explanations thread.

      1. Lerina Garcia case is doubtful,i posted the relevant comment in ‘Are we real’ topic in July this year.Splitter, a story by Sebastian Fitzek published the same year,2008,when Lerina told her tale could be the inspiration for the fantastic account.

  43. This idea has been swirling around in my mind for some time now. I’m not really educated enough to convey it properly. That alone may taint the whole idea.
    I was discussing the Mandela Effect with my brother in October and he mentioned quantum entanglement (as in the post above, thanks for the info) which is absolutely fascinating. I don’t know if this particular idea fits in with quantum entanglement, but it definitely involves string theory.
    Anyway, so this phenomena may be a consequence of time.
    I’m sure many here have read about the holographic principle in string theory. The basic idea is that the entire universe exists on a 2 dimensional plain and that what we observe is an energy projection. (I’m not very good at explaining this.)
    So this theory can’t be resolved mathematically because the horizon where the information exists grows with time. And maybe that it can’t be resolved is the key. What if this horizon is where multiple realities are created, as presented in string theory? Time itself causes such massive changes in the information field that there is no longer room for distinct realities and they start to become enmeshed on the 2 dimensional plains? Maybe black holes are instabilities forcing parallel breaks in the projection field from one plain of reality to the next to try to deal with time/information field expansion. Maybe it’s the projections that become enmeshed. I know that I personally hold 2 entirely different memories about one event. Both seem right to me. What if people who seem unaffected don’t exist in one of the enmeshed realities?
    Fiona, I apologize if I’m posting this in the wrong spot. Maybe this has already been covered elsewhere? I don’t think it’s a very popular idea but I just felt compelled to share. Thank you!

    1. Mandy,
      Nice post, and good theory. So if I understand , would it be possible for the horizons to be overlapping from parallel universes. Maybe we are somehow approaching intersecting and overlapping areas? I wonder , obviously completely hypothetical, that if the tinnitus , or other frequencies some of us hear could be like some type of barrier? Like we are close to another timeline/universe. All hypothetical of course. But I do like your explanation. Mike H.

  44. Hi Fiona!
    I know you have been reorganizing the site so maybe this isn’t a Mandela Effect moment but wasn’t this thread called “POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONS”? It was for me since I discovered this site in the beginning of September and I believe I saw it yesterday or defiantly the day before.

    1. Anthony, it was “Possible Explanations?” but the two words took up too much space on the navbar. I needed to start a FAQs and have a link to the t-shirts (and whatever else we think of), so that’s why the name changed. The question mark already suggests that there’s a question — that they’re only possible explanations — so that was the easiest way to create more navbar space.

      1. Funny – I was so sure this was gonna be a Mandela moment. I agree, the ? represents the possibilities …

  45. Hi Fiona! Great job you’re doing. I see patterns here as far as posting. Seems things heat up and cool down.
    Anyway, I’m always amazed that you find the time you do here with a career and family. (Your husband must be a Saint or having his own ME’s lol)

    Consider the seven billion plus people presently residing (vibrating) on the planet … Now bring in infinite (time-lines, densities, dimensions, slip-streams) whatever you want to call them … Seven billion is a very small number compared to infinity. What I am suggesting here is that the odds of anyone of us being conscious on the same time-line at the same time is probably seldom and/or sporadic. It probably happens but I would think it would be fleeting. Yes, the time-lines will be very similar in most cases, but not exact. With this idea, comes the possible realization that I never knew my ‘conscious’ mother, father, brother, sister, friends, everyone here, etc, (the only way I ever knew to abbreviate excreta) as they would be off consciously doing their own thing, with aspects of what I would be doing in that density if I were conscious there.

    Statements like ‘our original time-line’ and ‘getting back to my original time-line’ become obsolete. I imagine you could slip through for a visit, but I would think the object here is to move forward or up in vibration, at least until you find a vibrational density you are happy with. [why is ‘vibrational’ not a word?].

    I’d also like to bring to everyone’s attention to a Disney Channel TV Show that started in June, called “Best Friends Whenever” … I’ve only seen previews but it seems it’s about two girls Jumping into different dimensions getting into trouble, taking from one dimension to another, stealing ideas … etc …

  46. I just wanted to share this quote from Field of Dreams:

    “There comes a time when all the cosmic tumblers have clicked into place, and the universe opens itself up for a few seconds to show you what’s possible.”

    I think some of the changes are pointers. They are there to get you to pay attention to something. In this case, the major line from Field of Dreams has changed. If you watch the movie, there are more things there worthy of noticing.

  47. I wasn’t sure where else to put this. But I believe the confusion over Home Depot vs. The Home Depot comes from not just excluding the “the” in casual speech and writing, but also because it’s officially called Home Depot in Canada. A lot of Canadians will grow up with seeing Home Depot and hearing The Home Depot in American commercials, and even Americans sometimes get Canadian channels and go to Canada and pass by Home Depots.

    1. Good information, Avenue! I’m always pleased when someone finds a reason — other than “you’re just confused” — why alternate memories could be reinforced in this reality.

      That doesn’t mean The Home Depot isn’t “Home Depot” in another (American) reality… just that the chain of stores is really called that, close to home (for many readers), in this reality.

  48. Wow! A friend of mine turned me onto this site. For some reason when most people try to comprehend the nuances and varients to the time line, they eventually become frustrated, angered, and give up on it. Is it something too confusing, an obvious impossibility to our brains auto pilot, or a fail safe installed by higher beings due to our infantsy as a species and the fact that we have not yet graduated into our time of higher consiousness, to prevent us from doing harm outside of the boundaries of space we’ve been allotted to use as a nursery to develop into higher beings ourselves? At first I believed that there was just the one “true” timeline. A single thread if you will. But the more I read people comments, think of inconsistentsies in my own memories in comparison to the above posted timeline events, and how they vary from other site patrons memories, I’m beginning to think time is not just a simple universal tape measure and is even more complicated than Einstein had ever realized.

    1. The timeline from the creation of the universe on…let’s call it the original timeline.
    2. The timeline that exists in a solar system in relation to the dominant star that all other bodies in that system circle. (Plus the beings there in). And does a galaxy have its one unique time flow or does it abide by the original time line?
    3. The timeline of a galaxy that has been destroyed by a super nova event. Is that time altered or is it actually consumed by the event horizon.
    Is the original timeline altered in the absence of a galactic body? Does it stay the same or does it recalibrate itself?
    4. The timeline that exists on a planet in relation to its creation geologically speaking.
    5. The timeline that exists and is validated by the accounts of a planet’s organisms.
    6. The one that is created when historians/rulers/pontiffs state that “it happened like this” . Our mind in confusion over the discrepancy of what it experienced and what it’s being told it experienced creates a new corrected timeline, even though it knows it does not match up. Which means the brain is now acknowledging 2 different timelines.
    7.the individual timeline that is remembered by each single spirit’s journey through reincarnation.
    8. The timeline of events that the Time Traveler experience that exists as a unit completely seperate of the timeline he is traversing.

    We can do this all day. Since it obvious that there are multiple time lines, how do they all act with each other.

    In what we refer to as the beginning of time, there were fewer beings experiencing it and doing things in these units. Yes, time was still happening, but it was far less “dense” with events. Now that we have billions of individuals experiencing this timeline, plus their own anomalies in it, does this mean that the timeline has more temporal weight than say an hour spent by few people doing less and experience less alternate time tables?
    How do timelines created by our mind’s individual account affect the true time line?
    Since we know so little about the human mind and 85% of unused neuro circuitry and the powers hidden there in, is it possible that every time we are told a version of an event are we accidentally creating a new timeline? When we are granted more use of our mind through evolutionary milestones, will there be a secret timeline decoder ring to translate multiple timelines? Is the value of an hour spent with 100 alternate timelines less than an hour spent with 1,000,000,000 alternate time lines. Are we accidentally creating timeline pollution or waste that some how creates glitches in the timeline? So many questions that I imagine only time will tell.
    Then there is the fact that some rulers/governments obviously know how the mind works, have a vague understanding of a different timeline that we are not privy to, and know how to trick our mind into believing a reality entirely different than the true time line. I won’t approach the subject of why, who, or what they have to gain. It’s quite clear that two people in the same room, and time unit can experience two different realities and thus become removed from current one and nd split off to dwell in seperate ones. It’s also seems like two or more timelines, be them natural or man made in origin can exist in the same location. And how do these theories affect the Now or does now no longer have the same meaning and has become something we can possible manipulate to suit a purpose? Does the exponential aspect of “time experienced density ” aid in the growth of the universe. Does the speed of times passing change in relation to its event density? It also appears that we can lose track of the true time line and become trapped in a timeline that is false, manipulated, or man made. I think most people in the US are experiencing events from one timeline or multiples, and being told that events happened that conflict with the memories acquired from reality. It’s apparent that there are more questions than answers. Is the true timeline degrading or being damaged in some way that allowed us to experience these random time mix ups. Are we actually frequency and energy stuck in a complex matrix experiencing an artificial physical universe that was created by poorly organized programmers, and what we are actually witnessing is not a timeline in truth, but more a movie with tons of flaws?

    Altering time:
    Time acts different in certain circumstances. Time can be stalled with idleness, drug use, and more advanced spiritual exercises. When attention is not given to time it appears to move quite fast. When focused on obsessively time moves in variety of speeds. D. uring meditation it is possible for an experienced individual to experience the singularity of its one existence. One can feel the presence and with minds eye see the time of the spirit’s birth, it’s multiple life segments, and it’s future ones, up into the spirits assent into its next phase of existence all at the same time. When experiencing the singularity it often causes a feeling of panic because of the enormity of experience and makes what I can only describe as getting the wind knocked out of you type feeling. So so much to learn on the subject. But it is quite obvious that we are experiencing something legitimate.

  49. Okay, Fiona, I have some more speculations. I have been reading, for a while, about how there are some cases of people who have very little brain matter, and, yet, they live normal, and, sometimes, better than normal, lives. This post from a dude who I do not, personally, like, but who sometimes writes good blog posts goes over some of this evidence:

    It makes me angry to hear about how mainstream scientists fail to adequately investigate these kinds of cases. We may be living in a different (and, hopefully, better) world if they investigated these cases properly. (maybe in an alternate universe…) Anyway, one of the interesting possibilities, and maybe the most probable possibility with respect to long-term memory, is the possibility that long-term memory is kept outside of the brain, and, probably, even outside of the body, itself. If we can figure out where this memory is kept, then it might give us some clues as to what is happening with The Mandela Effect. I’ve heard some speculations about where long-term memory is kept: in the spirit, in some kind of database, (some people call this database: “The Akashic Records”) etc. One theory that stands out, to me, is that of, I believe, Rupert Sheldrake. He seems to think that long-term memory doesn’t even, really, exist in the sense that we think of it, like some kind of representation that is stored somewhere. Instead, once again, if my memory is correct, he believes that the brain simply “tunes in” to the past when we want to know something that happened in the past. If this is true, then The Mandela Effect could be a result of the “tuning in” process becoming corrupted, somehow. Another possibility is that there really are alternate universes, but that we are not shifting between them. Instead, it could be that some of us are simply “tuning in” to the wrong past – a past of another universe. If this is what is happening, then it could, also, possibly explain reincarnation. People may not have lived multiple lives, but, instead, they may be “tuning in” to other people’s pasts. This could, possibly, offer an explanation as to why some people believe that they are reincarnated and, yet, they may find out that both the person and the one who they believe that they are reincarnated from are alive at the same time. I’m speaking hypothetically, on that one, because I do not know if any such cases have ever happened, but it would not surprise me if there are such cases. Maybe someone can post a case like that, if they know of one, and if that is okay with you, Fiona.

    Anyway, I had a possible synchronicity that I would like to post, if it is okay with you, Fiona, as it might be related to all of this. A number of months back, before I ever even heard about The Mandela Effect, I was chatting with this chick in a chatroom. Don’t worry, it was not sexual…well…not with her, anyway. She was telling me about her beliefs in reincarnation, and that, although I think that I remember her telling me that she is Canadian in this life, she had memories of a past life living as a Chinese woman in China during the early to mid 19th century…I think. Well, if that is not weird enough, she claimed that this was a past life in an alternate universe where significant things were different, when compared to our universe. A lot of the differences had to do with Chinese history – The Opium Wars, and such – and I could not remember most of them, but one of the differences that I think stuck out, to me, was the fact that she said that the parliamentary system of government had, pretty much, “taken over” the whole world, with only The United States government, and a small handful of other governments, not being parliamentary systems of government. Did she really live this past life in an alternate universe? Did her mind, instead, “tune in” to this past life in an alternate universe. I don’t know, but I do believe that I remember her telling me that she would like to make a manga about this other life as she remembers it. She said that it is taking a while, but, if she ever does finish and put it out, I will post a link to it if I remember to do so, and if that is okay with you, Fiona.

    1. I do believe Sheldrake’s ideas could well be at the heart of the Mandela Effect

      The whole 50 minutes are worth watching, though if you really want just highlights, I’d suggest from about 27:40 to the end. [Updated link.]

      Sheldrake is one of those few maverick scientists, one of those willing to risk his reputation (which has, unfortunately, already taken quite a beating) to ask the hard questions and follow where they lead, however unusual. If there is one legitimate scientist who I would expect to be sympathetic to the Mandela Effect and might help to put us on a path toward a theory and solid evidence for ME, it would be Sheldrake – if anyone were to have a connection to contact him?

  50. This possible explanation, that I will define below, I find fascinating mainly because I’m resisting it. So, I’m posting it and kinda hoping it gets debunked. Yet, I now realize my resistance/feelings on this WILL change depending on MY future … I think you’ll understand after the explanation.

    We all made it to the year 2029 – 2036.

    Speculation: I’ve come across information in a/the past, that suggests GE (General Electric) invents a time machine in the early 2030’s.

    We traveled back in time, maybe there’s no physical future beyond that time, maybe we could afford it, maybe we evacuated, maybe we were sent on a mission, maybe we are not done playing, there are so many reasons I cant even comprehend, making us the time travelers.

    We cannot go back to our exact timeline so we go to one close by.
    We lose all memory of what we just experienced as we go back. (deja vu?)
    We decide how far back to go(?)
    The more discrepancies, markers, signs we see the more TIMES we have gone back. Or the more changes we notice, the further we are from our original timeline. I want to go on but I’ll stop here as I have not yet thought this all the way through … maybe some feedback will help.

    I’ve also been playing with the notion that we/some of us have been ‘transported’ to the moon. (many reasons why) … and what we perceive as the moon is actually our old earth. (moon is larger, earth shrinking) …Tying up nice bows for the sun, moon and stars. (any explanation as to why I want to always capitalize the word SUN?)

    1. I’d like to add to my list of possible explanations …

      One in which a certain event, in ones life, causes one or more veils to come down. This would in turn cause one to experience Mandela Effects, psychic abilities and probably more. Essentially we have died, possibly severs times, with our souls continuing on in a physics state. To what end …

  51. Hi, all,

    I had this thought a few nights back, but got sidetracked. Posit an Akashic Record, simulation universe, or similar such. In video games (and other programs), one often finds “skins” or “total conversions” of the game, such that although it is the same game mechanically, it takes on a wholly other appearance. If one were to play such a game in multiplayer mode across a network, then the players could well experience the same game occurring, but with different data referenced for the objects.

    This isn’t meant to be a strong analogy, only a loose metaphor. The thrust of this is that we could well be accessing different data sets, while still experiencing the same single shared reality.

  52. Stephen Hawking published a paper a while ago declaring that black holes destroy matter and information. This theory was greeted with outrage because physicists realized that if the destruction of information was possible then we COULD NEVER RELY ON OUR MEMORIES OR RECORDED HISTORY.

    Maybe Stephen Hawking is correct and the CERN or naturally occurring micro black holes are destroying / altering information. Stephen Hawking eventually recanted his theory.

    One other theory I read about was the idea that schizophrenic people are not imagining people that aren’t there, they ARE ACTUALLY INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE IN OTHER REALITIES / DIMENSIONS.

    This would explain why mentally ill or dyslexic people seem to know the future. For example the “rain man” isn’t instantly knowing how many toothpicks are on the ground he is seeing the end result / future of a person in another reality counting the toothpicks.

    Both theories seem to tie into potential answers to the alternate dimensions / realities that are connected to the Mandela effect.

    1. Jose,

      On the one hand the possibility that \”Hawking was right after all\” would certainly have positive implications for explaining Mandela Effect – but Hawking himself has given up that battle, last I knew. However, the refutation of Hawking, spearheaded mainly by Leonard Susskind, led to The Holographic Principle, which is also extremely promising, possibly even more promising, for ME. (Reference \”The Black Hole War\”, as the Hawking/Susskind conflict was dubbed.)

      Essentially, the Holographic Principle (which is now very well accepted physics) says that the whole universe is actually a gigantic hologram, which is projected from the Cosmic Horizon, the far edge of the observable universe – it is the event horizon of a giant black hole which we are all *inside* of right now.

      While mainstream science accepts the Holographic Principle, most scientists (except for a brave few) still shy away from accepting the obvious implication – that we *are* in fact in a holodeck of some kind, that the Simulation Hypotheses is true. Which I personally consider as easily the most likely explanation for the Mandela Effect (in fact, it would allow almost anything you like to be *potentially* true – you just have to figure out how to \”hack the sim\”…).

      Here Susskind explains the Holographic Principle much better than I can

      Also, the Rainman (referring to both the movie character and the real person he was based on) was never schizophrenic (at least in this reality) – but instead autistic, a whole different condition. Rainman did not see people who others do not see. However, John Nash, the (real life) professor in A Beautiful Mind was schizophrenic (and also paranoid and most likely Asperger as well, a less severe form of autism). And who knows, maybe he was seeing people from another timeline, maybe one in which Soviet spies were bringing suitcase nukes into the US, as he believed. And then the medication he was on for awhile would have actually \”worked\” by blocking his ability to interact with the other timeline. I\’m not convinced on this theory, but willing to entertain it.

    2. Some of those physicists think we are basically a projection from the event horizon of a black hole. That’s very simplistic terms. There’s some great info about holographic principal. I’m not saying I think this what’s causing these hiccups buts it’s an Interesting theory.

  53. I’m suspecting it is, in part, an indicator. A group signalling to another group – THIS is what we can do, much like the USA signalling to Russia ‘THIS is what we can do’ with the bombing of Nagasaki.

    1. J.T., I’m approving this because the emergence of this (in popular awareness) could be a signal of some sort. I’m not convinced it’s a power play, but I can agree about it being a signal.

      And, I’m including the theory that Nagasaki was a message from the USA to Russia, because it’s your example of a signal.

      However, I’m uneasy about the actual reference, and want to note that my approval of this comment doesn’t mean I agree with this on all points, or that it’s okay to launch a political discussion.

  54. It occurred to me today that these things we have experienced may be meant to distract us from a larger issue, or are like tests to see how we will react to them.

  55. I don’t think anything is wrong or out of the ordinary. I think people are just beginning to think differently and observe from perspectives man has never held before. We can’t see what we can’t believe. The idea of reality being static and mind moving through it – as through the frames of a film – is much older than the space program and experiences of moving through widely varied scenes have been reported for thousands of years. It’s not aliens or a conspiracy. Reality simply isn’t what we think it is. Never has been. You know that your desk isn’t actually a desk. You know that it’s mostlyl empty space and waves, yet if it were to stop “acting like” a desk, it would totally freak you out. We know that “location” and distance aren’t at ALL like they appear, yet we keep those discoveries in books on theoretical physics and as far away as possible from our very lives. Well, now we have the internet. The cat’s out of the bag. People are beginning to think and reconsider beliefs and explore other ideas about reality.

  56. Ok this is one of my 3 am thoughts.. For theories purpose imagine multi worlds, now if we have a slide to another earth.. it should be a world were we are still alive.. if quantum immortality or you can jump from version of yourself to another one, That means by necessity that some universes do no have me in.. certain events happened and i only pulled out at the last minute or chance were i wouldnt be here now.. I think its a combination, we have the man from tuareg, the green children coming for radically different universes. If the man from tuareg came with all his documentation that means there is a physical version of the pure memory/mental version of that we experience. OR is it the same.. If you dont have a duplicate in the universe you slide to you slide physically but if you do and the differences are not too radically different you could “merge” into a single mind, or even swap with another you, So for example the Berenstain Martin is in the Berenstein universe having this same conversation with the Stain’s version of fiona and the rest of us.. There have been stories about items suddenly appearing, certain mystics whether you believe them or not, can appear to pull items from other planes. Could they be able to reach into those other earths and remove what they need..

  57. Happy New Year (almost)! Hypotheses:

    1). Several years ago I would have automatically stated: Rip in the fabric of time, since that was how these types of anomalies were explained. Now we understand that the universe may not work quite that way.

    2). The End of the Age\End of the Cycle: many of our modern experiences match occurrences found in ancient myths of practically every civilization that we know of at this moment.

    3). MIW\Parallel Universes: reality shifts explain almost every anomaly experienced, including ghost sightings, dual memories, deja vu, missing or moved objects, etc.

    4). Holodeck\Holographic Universe: explains anomalies just as well as number 3, and also addresses that we live in a Mathematical Universe (universe operates on mathematical equations). If these really are “glitches in the matrix”, then we are currently experiencing an awful lot of glitches! 🙂

  58. How do I sign up to be able to post on that site of yours? I have a long comment that might fit here, in the THEORIES section of, but I think that it would probably fit better on, given that it has to do with portals and such.

    1. Mark, that site will go live in a week or so, but you can comment at any time. (I’ve been working on again, this morning.)

      I plan to formally launch that site around Jan 10th, but relies on having time to expand the articles and site plugins, etc… and that depends on spending less time reading comments here. The goods news: I’m being firm about my new comment policies here, so I need only skim comments to see if they include the data we’re focusing on now, or not.

    1. Vivek, you’re right. I flinched a little when I read the word “hedonism,” but in the context of the angst I read in daily comments — most of which do not appear here — and what appears in the news: if people were to focus more on happiness, the world would be a better place.

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