Which theories & explanations make the most sense?

a puzzleSo far, the two leading theories are that we’re “sliding” between parallel (or similar) realities, or that we’ve visited holodecks (and may be in one, right now) that have some glitches.

However, those concepts are broad. I’ve been trying to narrow the possibilities.

Initially, I’ve been searching for commonalities:

Locations in general, in case this aligns with a theory like vile vortices.

Location-specific memories, including alternate geography. (Locations could also help identify simple, regional media errors, including the TAPS v. Ghost Hunters issue.)

Years when more reality shifts seemed to happen, and specific dates. (So far, our polls are inconclusive, but I’m analyzing all comments for patterns.)

– On that note, a few scientists have (privately) questioned whether certain  quantum science tests (including CERN projects) may have affected the fabric of our reality.

The following comments cover even more topics. I hope they’re helpful.

490 thoughts on “Theories”

  1. Someone is changing the past for financial gain/ or altering the past and causing rifts in other areas by happenstance. I sent you one story about an arcade game here is one that hit me hard and close to home a couple of years ago.

    At my work a particular software is used to calculate data, been using it for 6 yrs.
    out of three file types a CSV was always used to calculate this data. I go into work one day and attempt
    to open one of these files to recalculate some data. After trying in vein several times, I asked the programmer what the problem was and why it would not open, he proceeds to tell me that this was never the file used to calculate this data it was always the RTF file that was used to calculate the data which is in turn is used to create the CSV file.
    I even conferred with other operators who agreed with the programmer. Causing me distress and serious confusion and embarrassment. To this day approx. 2 yrs. later I am still in
    disbelief that this was originally true. If in fact this was originally the file used to create the other why has the shock of this discovery stuck in my mind so prominently?

    1. david, what an interesting and odd set of events!

      I don’t hand code database files, and perhaps I know just enough to be dangerous trying to think about this, but this entire situation seems odd to me.

      Cheerfully, Fiona

    2. Honestly, David the part about financial gain makes the most sense to me also. I can’t help but keep going back to CERN, I have to wonder , who and why, and for what reason ,other than to prove or disprove a theory is such a massive amount of money being spent. I mean what is the end result supposed to accomplish. Not sure if my posts ever make sense to anyone but me. Very good, and interesting post, Mike

      1. Mike, your comments are very clear to me and I believe you’re on the right track with your questions and speculation.

        My current thoughts are that this reality is rapidly approaching something with steep challenges that we don’t necessarily recognize (yet), and — to those with more insights than the public generally have — reality-shifting (some variation of it) looks like the best Plan B.

        But, that’s a random guess in a sea of possibilities.

        1. Thanks Fiona , that makes me feel better. I’m a bit relived also in the poll, I voted none of the above. And it looks as though quite a few people voted that way. I did nothing special except “start noticing” all these things. Which kind of plays into my thought as to what/why this happening. Thank you again for such a well run site. Mike

        2. Fiona, I meant to comment on your thought earlier. I believe you may be right, something the human race can’t comprehend or may not be ready for perhaps. Maybe in a positive light CERN is being used to ” save” us as humans, instead of for a nefarious reason. I would really like to think that (hope?), and that it’s not for financial gain for certain entities. Of course this is all speculation, at this point. I like your line of thinking. And of course this could be a combination of several theories. This is a good topic! Great work on your part, Mike

    3. This has nothing to do with financial gain the A is a marker for every time processor in the event of an emergency to understand what reality they are in, there are so many more markers that are hidden from the public yet each letter stands for age, date, time and sequence. This information is true and has been provided for your understanding by a fellow time processor…please watch out for 2029! Be prepaired and watch out for the awakening, this is not make sense now but will soon and please stop using your cell phones they are the key ingredient of your societies collapse.

      1. Note: I have no idea what he’s talking about, but it was such an interesting comment, I approved it. If anyone understands the marker he mentions, please comment with more details. It’s a great concept, reminding me of “Bad Wolf” in Dr. Who episodes.

        1. Interesting comment indeed. So if serious, each letter we notice changed ( or date, or number) is some sort of a marker code ??? For people (or whatever) adjusting and/or changing time?? I’m grasping here. Maybe he/she could clarify a bit more. Mike

          1. After re-reading Mr. Stains comment several times, I THINK I now understand. The marker codes are used as a map of sorts, to know where they are (which timeline they are in?) I want to stress, I am not convinced one way or the other. But , this an interesting topic. Mike H.

            1. Good speculation, Mike H. I’m hoping Mr. Stain will return with more details about his theories. They’ve certainly sparked some interesting discussions.

              1. Fiona, had a little more time today to really read this. Again, not saying I’m convinced one way or the other. But I have been observing this phenomena (ME), for a very long time. Not even knowing anyone else did, long before we had the internet. I was always looking for a rational (scientific?) explanation, and still am to a degree, but only because it seems “more safe” to me. However I have learned to not discount anything, especially with something as strange, interesting, and sometimes even frightening such as the ME.

                So here goes. Time processor’s are humans/entities who for whatever reason come in and out of our timelines. Marker codes would act (if I understand Mr. Stain), as an emergency type code the processors could look for to tell which timelines they were in. Meaning those timelines most close to their home ones, would be the most dangerous, I assume? Because they would have the least amount of codes. Those timelines further away from ours would have many codes because they would be so different. It would actually be obvious to the processors after a certain point.

                Now my questions , if we are to believe this.
                1. If not for monetary gains, then what, and why?
                2. Are they here to help us ?
                3. are they here to harm us?

                Again my disclaimer, I am not saying I believe this——yet.

                Mike H.

                1. Good questions, Mike H!

                  I’m still leaning towards the idea that this is a holodeck and what seems like years is actually an afternoon’s adventure or a two-week holiday in another reality.

                  So, at the moment, the idea of Time Processors is difficult to wrap my mind around. I’m glad you’re able to take this a step further and raise such interesting questions.

                  There’s no reason these slips couldn’t be something controlled or even sinister. I may need to resume reading about Sumerian records (Gilgamesh, etc.) since that version of history might fit far better with the Time Processors concept.

                  Or maybe I need to catch up on Dr. Who episodes. It’s as good a context as any!


                  1. Fiona, I have actually thought about the “holodeck” theory also. You might be onto something, I have posted on here before about the last 5-6 years literally flying by me. Just ridiculously fast, and before anyone says “its because your older”, I don’t buy it.

                    If nothing else the ME certainly gives us LOTS of interesting theories and topics. But I really DO think something is going on, just not sure of the who, what, and why’s of it. I still believe ,in some way, the colliders are involved, possibly along with a lot of the digital technology, versus the analog technology of the past. Mike H.

                  2. Fiona, you might as well catch up with Dr. Fu Manchu and Flash Gordon and Jack London’s ‘Unparalled Invasion’.These have been very much tangible since a century or perhaps millenniums.

                  3. Perhaps the universes just adjust to paradox, and remembering differently just gets used in the process. Of course, that would generate all kinds of stuff.

                    I think a lot of that old Sumerian stuff is just a certain take on entanglement.

                    Parthogenesis, eccentric orbits.

                    Of course, that was just before self selection and consensus on what is human created winners and losers.

                    No one ever factors in ghosts. Stuff that does not stay dead kind of pops up where and whenever.

                    1. neal, I do factor in ghosts. That’s the field of study where I’m probably best known, have been a Guest speaker at Dragon Con, and so on. For me, the two topics (ghosts and Mandela Effect) segue rather well.

                      My research suggests that many (perhaps most) ghost reports aren’t about people who are popping up in this reality, per se. They’re alive and well in their own times/realities, but we’re perceiving them here. I have no idea why, but their real-time responses to comments and questions suggest that they’re not lingering spirits of the dead.


                  4. there seems to be a particular train of thought- that if contemplated using alternative terms- might just expand beyond the seeming conjecture and intangibility of any potential to determine the truth. I offer for your debate and contemplation:
                    in addition, the theoretical concept that imagines the effects of traveling through a black hole…holds possibilities in explaining the polarity anomalies, the planet may be literally being turned inside-out as we have barely the capacity to imagine what the speed of light…or dark- truly could be. lastly, if such a scenario of traveling through a “wormhole” could be grasped, how did we get stuck in it? is “IT” merely a hyperlink to a determinable destination? or does all existing and other never conceived of realities collide, compress and invert and enmesh together before we re-expand, realign with our past paradigm and exit (if there is an exit) with an intact reality?

                    1. Great questions, Kathy J! I’m eager to hear (or, actually read) what people think about these topics.

                      What resonates with me is the idea that this was entered into with the idea of a particular outcome/destination. However, some potentialities weren’t considered (or not with enough weight), and… well, here we are. I’m not sure what’s next, or which factors will take us to whatever’s next — internally and externally — but I think we’re in a bigger adventure than we’d realized until recently.

                2. So if we apply the “A” or the “E” theory in the bear debate, this would mean “A” is closer to the original time stream than the “E”? What does that mean for everyone that remembers the “E”? We fell back to a closer stream? My head hurts, why am I entertaining this?

                3. If reality is being changed for benefit than I would imagine it would have to be something a bit more larger than just making money. I think making money is a side effect. Meaning that if they’re going to change history than lets look at all possibilities including money making. I don’t think it’s the primary cause though. My thoughts always seem to drift to a WWIII scenario between the western oligarchs and the BRICS nations. I jump to this conclusion because I have a strong memory of China being much larger in land mass than what is currently considered China. I remember it being the 2nd largest country in land mass after Russia. Being an avid wargamer I can see how changing the size of china could benefit a war scenario. Just my thoughts. I love this subject.

            2. Kind of like how on the television show Fringe when they start going into different alternate realities the opening credit sequence has a different color theme to help the audience know in which reality the episode is taking place?

              1. My post is a bit removed from the context I was initially replying to: to the shifts/variances in certain letters being sign posts for travelers between realities to allow them to keep their bearings.

        2. I may have missed something, but is “Mr Stain” referencing the A in BerenSTAIN as (one of many apparently) a marker of which time stream the “time processor” finds themselves in?

        3. He’s referring to the change in letters in “berenstein”, hence his hint in his name, “mr. Stain”. The a is a marker to those who (if I’m understanding correctly) are “time processors” to be able to ascertain what reality they are currently in, by using the other markers as signs to narrow it down. Certainly interesting.

          1. If Mr.Stain theory is right that would make perfect sense.
            I hope Mr.Stain gives us more information.

        4. I know this is months late, but I just recently came across your site.
          Mr. Stain’s comment reminds me of the show “Sliders” where the lead character knows he’s back in his reality/timeframe when the front gate of his house squeaks. The squeaky gate serves as his marker for knowing whether he’s back home, or in another timeframe. Or, like in the movie “Inception” where the characters each have their own markers that lets them know if they are “dreaming.”
          And with his comment about emergencies, what if time processors are used to avert disasters? According to a lot of “prophecies” the world should have ended quite a few times already. Time processors could also be time travelers who help steer the course of history. And they use these markers to inform eachother of where they are.

      2. I don’t like the cell phones either and there may be some validity in not using them but everyone will have to find truth for themselves. This post follows right in line with my conversation yesterday with spouse which is why I agree to limiting of it use. Will eventually weed off the internet too.

        “A” does appear to be a marker of sorts and it helps determine or point out space in time. (Is time a prison ? hmmm). I previously posted my thoughts/analysis of the Ponchatoula Times and marker points to present time of 1985.

        Other years of shifts or …not sure what to call them are 1988,1999,2001 forced,2012,2015. Timeframe between 1985-88 is 3, 88-99 is 11, 99-01 is 2, 01-12 is 11, 12-15 is 3. The pattern seems to have been 3,11,3,11,3… but 2001 forced/stolen year making 2. “Processor” ‘s date falls into pattern 2015, 2026,2029. Maybe there is some validity.

        The many theories. One can begin to speculate what all of this is really about……………….?

        1. Daniel, your comments are great. Keep sharing them. Some of the calculations seem odd, but so is this subject. We don’t know what patterns will emerge as we delve deep into this study. I’m both fascinated and impressed by your in-depth analysis of shifts as they happen. I hope you’ll continue to post them. Thank you!

          1. Daniel , I agree with Fiona. Please keep posting , you caught my attention with the years. I have posted on here in several topics , and those years line up with a lot of the same ones I listed. Mike H.

            1. I like to add to my reply for Mr. Stain and Daniel. The cell phone part is interesting to me. Over the last 6 months I have toyed with the idea of getting rid of the phone——and really limiting the computer. I have kind of had a nagging feeling the cell phones, not in a propaganda way or media way, though that is bad also, but in a radio frequency (Wi-Fi, or microwave type) way, are being used to control people (including thoughts, and actions). I know this sounds insane to some of the posters, but I didn’t arrive at this idea easily. I have suspected that CERN (and other colliders), and possibly natural (and un-natural) vortices maybe some type of trigger mechanisms for the frequencies. And strange these two posters would write what they did—-synchronicity, again. Mike H.

              1. Just to slam the brakes down on this;

                Cell phones have rapidly become a widespread tool due to their filling of a crucial niche for rapid communication. There usefulness has made them popular and widespread.

                Due to this rapid expansion of a certain technology it’s a change which has happened within individuals lifetimes, you REMEMBER a world before widespread mobile phone usage, this is therefore noticeable.

                You couple this with a complicated (but completely non secretive) experiment such as CERN and draw… conclusions?

                I’d like you to hold back for just a moment and really think about whether you have a genuine reason to believe there is a nefarious connection between Mobile phones and CERN or whether your thoughts are the result of an echo chamber effect.

                I’m a fairly organized mind, I am skeptical and I prefer to analyze rather than take at face value but I wanted to respond to this comment in particular with my thoughts.

                1. Sea, you make a good point, but I’d counter with the argument that this is exactly how we’re supposed to think: That two such contrasting elements couldn’t possibly be connected. I don’t see your comment “slamming the brakes down” on this, but adding at least one more layer to speculation. (After all, if someone from the 14th century transported to our time and saw someone click something on a mobile phone, and the owner’s house lights turned on — 5 miles away — that 14th century individual would think the connection absurd. Time, distance, or apparent relative importance may not be as critical as we think, or have been conditioned to think.)

                  1. Cell phones with wi-fi direct,certainly have a potential to do good or bad.Miniature drones and wi-fi can cause mayhem if they catch on with anarchists and arsonists,and the fact that offline apps like firechat can be created adds to the grim scenario.

                  2. Thanks Fiona,

                    Is the obvious explanation always true? No

                    But this doesn’t mean the obvious explanation is never true.

                    If there is a conspiracy to use mobile phone signals to change our behavior then absolutely we’re supposed to think this isn’t the case. But we need to find some sort of evidence for it before it can hold more weight than that it isn’t true.

                    Does that make sense?

                    1. Sea, that makes sense and I’m hoping someone can provide more insights about the phone issue. Otherwise, the mobile phone conversation can swerve too close to baseless (so far) conspiracy theories that seem more fiction than fact. Meanwhile, Occam’s Razor still applies in many cases, but — obviously — not all of them.

                2. Sea, it is only my “feeling” that this MIGHT be happening. I have draw no conclusions, just a feeling. Which I realize probably has no scientific merit.

                  I have a fairly organized mind as well. Do you have any conclusive evidence in a different direction. Because I really just would like answers as to why/what is happening. Not sure about the echo chamber comment. If you mean something along outside influences , or parroting something I’ve read or heard then no.

                  I am open to any explanation on this topic. If anyone has thoughts, theories , or concrete evidence , please post. Mike H.

                  1. Hi there Mike,

                    Thanks for the response. Firstly I’d like to say that I wasn’t attempting to overly dismiss what you’d said and appreciate you not assuming a defensive position.

                    By ‘echo chamber’ I was referring to the possibility that asking people who already suspect the same things you do will generally result in responses which support your own conclusions and won’t be objective. I appreciate the difficulty in finding an ‘unbiased’ opinion and was hoping to offer a counter viewpoint. Perhaps consider me as playing ‘devil’s advocate’?

                    To answer your point on whether I have conclusive evidence that mobile phones aren’t being used to control people. I’d have to say that I don’t have anything I can particularly point to but I’d like to break this down slightly and see if we can follow the thought process of my scepticism.

                    Theory: Mobile phones are being used to control people in some way

                    Requirement 1:
                    Wifi or telecoms signals must be emitted which affect the human brain in a specific way as to result in a change of behaviour

                    Requirement 2:
                    The resultant change is desired by some group or organization.

                    Requirement 3:
                    The link must be complex or just a few non-conspiracy member experts in X waves, communication or the human brain would realise and announce their findings.

                    Evidence against 1:
                    Mobile phone technology seems like a reasonable development alongside other technologies which have emerged (radios, computers etc). Radio signals have been used for a considerable amount of time which pre-date their widespread use today and we haven’t seen early signs of behavioural change. If behavioural changes are made by radio waves we would expect to see early experimenters with this technology reporting such behaviours.

                    If small behavioural changes are being made by mobile phone use then would we see large changes around intense signals? Beyond mobile phones themselves large amounts of radio and wifi signals are not considered hazardous, Radar has been used for decades and you can approach a radar tower without any special protection or ill effects. Areas of high intensity wifi signals likewise (apartment blocks where every apartment has wifi, internet cafes etc) are not associated with seizures or strange behaviours. This does not preclude a non-radio or wifi signal being emitted by phones but a special hidden radiation seems like a stretch.

                    Evidence against 2:
                    The change would need to be subtle enough not to be noticed and large enough to be worth a considerable expenditure of resources and risk. I’m having difficulty imagining any behavioural change which wouldn’t be obvious to outside observers (most people do not feel mobile phones change behaviour) and yet desirable enough for this hidden groups agenda. Mobile phones affect people ‘somehow’ is vague enough to never be disproven. We need something testable!

                    Evidence against 3:
                    Radio and wifi signals i would suggest are well understood by a large number of groups from doctors to engineers to operatives in a number of fields. If radio or wifi signals DID effect changes in the human brain there would be applications for this in a variety of fields. Perhaps cures for some cognitive disorder or behavioural illnesses. Could we look to cure diseases? Could we use such signals to calm rioters or increase spending in shops?

                    I feel that the hypothesis is unlikely to be true for the reasons I’ve listed above. I note i haven’t linked any articles or studies and accept that. I’ve pieced this together from my own viewpoints and thought process rather than a researched rebuttal and you may dismiss it as such.

                    I would like to share a simple mantra which I use when faced with any supernatural phenomenon. “Does the world look, the way it would look, if X were true”. For mobile phone (radio) signals affecting human behaviours I’d say the answer is that it doesn’t.

                    1. Please take the following excerpt into consideration when thinking about the brain and its synapsis:

                      “Any device that can be driven by electricity can be patched into a network and controlled by computer (the significance of which shall be revealed at some point in the future)” page 36 Mind Crash by Mike Gill.

                      I think this may, and hopefully will, offer some insight into the cell phone conundrum. This was previously posted under Major Memories and seems to fit well here.

                      Small experiment:
                      When you speak with someone outside of your home and your cell phone is with you make note of the conversation for the next 24-48 hours without referring back to it at anytime. Go to your personal laptop or computer and go to Yahoo. You may find that the topic you were speaking of shows up as a main article referencing the aforementioned.

                      Another experiment for measure:
                      Pause from playing video of interest on your computer/laptop. Walk away and come back maybe 10,15,30 minutes later. Place your *attention only* back to the computer and it may begin to play the video without you touching a thing!

                      Another thing, the words that are used to get your attention are important. The English language is riddled with underlying suggestions (etymology) eliciting certain reactions. The words we use are *extremely* important as Sea has noted the tone of Mark’s response and replied in like tone with a well thought out list to support his argument.

                    2. Sea, no offense was taken on my part. I actually re-read what I wrote , and hoped I hadn’t offended you. That was not my intention. Sometimes my posts don’t always come out the way I wanted them too. You are obviously a better communicator than I am.

                      I am not sure of anyone else posting on here, but I have no one to really bounce any of my ideas (even if they are JUST ideas) off of. The people I know would probably think I was insane if I started talking about some of the things we do on here. I said in my initial post on this site, that it took me a LONG time to even be able to talk about the things I had noticed (since 1985) for fear of being ridiculed, I actually thought I might be losing my mind. That is why I chose Fiona’s site as the only place I will post. She is a very fair moderator.

                      The military has used sound based weapons for decades, and I am sure there are many that the general population does not know
                      about. As for radiation, a large study was just released last Saturday stating that long term cell phone exposure can cause cancer. This was on the cable news networks. I value your well written post and has given me things to think about, which is why I come here.

                      Now if I could ask, what initially brought you to this site? Did you notice something that led you here? I am curious .

                      Mike H.

                    3. US PATENT 6,017,302 – SUBLIMINAL ACOUSTIC MANIPULATION OF NERVOUS SYSTEMS — In human subjects, sensory resonances can be excited by subliminal atmospheric acoustic pulses that are tuned to the resonance frequency. The 1/2 Hz sensory resonance affects the autonomic nervous system and may cause relaxation, ptosis, drowsiness, or sexual excitement, depending on the precise acoustic frequency near 1/2 Hz used. The effects of the 2.5 Hz resonance include slowing of certain cortical processes, sleepiness, and disorientation.


                      US PATENT 4,858,612 — HEARING DEVICE MICROWAVE HEARING – The multifrequency microwaves are then applied to the brain in the region of the auditory cortex. By this method sounds are perceived by the mammal which are representative of the original sound received by the microphone.


                      US PATENT 4,877,027–HEARING SYSTEM — microwaves in the range of 100 megahertz to 10,000 megahertz that are modulated with a particular waveform. The waveform consists of frequency modulated bursts. Each burst is made up of ten to twenty uniformly spaced pulses grouped tightly together. The burst width is between 500 nanoseconds and 100 microseconds. The pulse width is in the range of 10 nanoseconds to 1 microsecond. The bursts are frequency modulated by the audio input to create the sensation of hearing in the person whose head is irradiated.

                      US PATENT 5,270,800 –SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE GENERATOR — The user can control the length and spacing of the subliminal presentations to accommodate differing conscious thresholds. 

                      May be overlaid by modulating a video stream, either as an RF signal.


              2. I truly wish I could just get rid of my cell phone. I hate the things, to be honest, but I have to be able to get in touch with friends and employers, and that means carrying a phone everywhere. I hardly ever use it, though, as I hate talking on phones generally. I am very aware of the multitude of people walking around glued permanently to their cell phones, talking and texting away while the world passes by them without notice. It’s like a drug to some people, and they can’t get enough of it. I wonder how likely these people are to notice any ME events, when they aren’t noticing much of anything at all. If there is a sinister plot to control our behavior through cell phones, then it certainly is working at turning a lot of people into phone zombies.

              3. CERN’s LHC activity as well as all other collider activities (and I think there are like thousands worldwide) as well as HAARP /Tesla/geoengineering technology etc… anything man made that employs electromagnetic energy will create a frequency which resonates in all energetic forms, as are currently manifest in this timeline 3/4D earth, it passes through and therefore is in and of itself a trigger. What the frequencies triger, that is a response form a single cell, a unit of DNA, a single subatomic particle and all combinations thereof to the most varied and complex of forms which may be we humans but I wouldn’t insist on that. That response, or effect depending on the energetic entities structure, could register in a myriad of ways, symptomaticlly presenting solo or in a broad range of 2+ combinations. Those responses/effects of (to reverse generalize a facial tissue with a Kleenex- I forget what thats called ) EMFs can be deliberate and directed or generalized and collateral, unnoticeable and negligible to obvious and profound, I am not certain if there are any that are really positive/life promoting, most if not all would ultimately be negative/life damaging, but , I think in the long run over time and with repeated exposure of any quality & quantity, EMF radiation is never neutral, regardless of intent. So no Mike, I for one don’t think you sound insane. We are literally immersed in an ocean of electro-magnetic radiation and have technologically “evolved” ourselves out of ever again being able to test and prove which/how/what ways & intensity/duration of if/any EMF effects life with any “real scientific” empirically obtained evidence to be able to make any definitive statement in accordance to current scientific and legal standards, practices and laws- unless, of course you are a backed with enough money & power or know enough secrets to slip/slide your way through or around all of those inconvenient roadblocks … There is simply not a large enough quantity of non EMF exposed beings with the ability to produce some kind of measurable response to create a control group.

              4. What if every dimension consists on its own special frequency. Then we all begin to enter all this technology into our space. The more technology like cell phones and WIFI have changed our frequency. This allows another dimension to seep into ours. Ghosts are just energy or beings that are from this different dimension that is seeping into ours.
                By introducing all the cell phones and wifi bouncing around us made us vulnerable and invited more intelligent beings in other dimension to come through. Thats been what we call ghosts.
                Its just a thought.

            2. (Still not sure of internet but here goes) Today while listening in on a conversation between my childred:

              You know if you press the ‘A’ button after you die it will reset the game so you can get a second chance and play him again”.

              Of course the “A” being referenced the day after I read Mr. Stain’s post got my immediate attention.

              “Say what? You get a second chance by pressing the A button? Did someone tell you that or is it just a part of the game?” After probing I find that my youngest found this out yesterday while playing the game. That was their first time ever playing it and so I am informed that they just figured it out playing with the buttons.
              2nd child:
              “No, it does not always work. It only works when you have entered a new stage. Other than that the ‘A’ button doesn’t work”.

              Flabbergasted for a second but then realize that this is not new. Children say things (mouth of babes). Deeper connection and seem to be easier conductors. (Additional proof- they would mess up the signal of the antenna by just being in the room but when they left and me and spouse remained it cleared up. Not sure if related but I found interesting at the time.)

              The name of the game is Tekken 6.

              1. To be honest Fiona, I felt some kind of way about the above post on the game Tekken 6 being reloaded. However, the order that the post is showing lead me to reconsider. It is showing after post from Leslie A.D. date today 10/20/2015. This poster references EMF which ties into an old paper I wrote regarding the effects of ELF waves (Extremely Lows Frequency)on children.

                I did not like this prior post to be mentioned because after thinking it was 1.more personal than any other post for me and 2. I didn’t want anyone to take the “children as conductors” comment to try anything stupid( Stupid with an exclamation mark! Evil, downlow, you know what).

                So what I thought was that the people/entities/being etc who would do such a thing already have. Someone/thing ALREADY knows this hence all of the power lines in the parks and possibly the misslng/abused report.

                Anyways, ELFs appear to be a direct attack to bring the frequency by which children resonate very low. Lower frequencies cause things to solidify like masses of cancer. Combine that with an increased acidic diet encouraged in western foods (lowers ph levels) and CO2 level which appear to encourage vascular endothelial growth factors, there is no wonder why we are seeing some of the things we are seeing. (Ref

                The A may be an indicator of a second chance of sorts, however if we can stop alterations in our DNA which effects/affects consciousness (memory) early we can perhaps further than where we are.

                  1. I am not familiar with Bruce Lipton but will check him out. Reading a quick excerpt (Wikipedia tag line ” Bruce Harold Lipton, is an American developmental biologist best known for promoting the idea that genes and DNA can be manipulated by a person’s beliefs) about his theory on DNA, the immediate thought comes to mind:

                    Perhaps this is why the brain(matter) is currently split with a left and right hemisphere, the yin and yang of sorts. There is the logical part of me which says that I have been learned into this thinking/perception since youth making it difficult to veer from it. The other portion of my brain knows that I create my own reality but I can not help at times to think about how my perception has been framed. Because of this idea I seemed to have gravitated to reported cases of “schizophrenia” with awe. It seems to be such an unbinded state of being that speaks to that other portion of my brain which is not based on learned behaviors, thoughts, beliefs, perceptions, logic and the like.

                    This other half of my brain which does not rely on logic is under strict control of itself. It creates its own imagination and confirms its own presence and will via matter/DNA. It is therefore capable of self-healing but also peril.

                    However, under the current construct/anatomy of the two portions of the brain being split, its almost like a catch 22 for one to say that our beliefs can manipulate our DNA considering that our beliefs have been framed from birth and are based on culture, religion, spirituality, socioeconomic status, etc. Most of this has been learned. **It is, perhaps, because of our beliefs that our DNA has been and can be manipulated.** Quite the opposite of what has been proposed.

                    All of it sounds very confusing. To me anyway. It is like a binding of self to the laws of nonself which is actually self. Deepak Chopra’s phrase (spoken by others before him as well) “I am the observer, the observed, and that which is observing”.

                    If the hemispheres of the brain were to become one without being dominated or influenced by logic…well that is something to fathom

                    1. Right now, I’m reading Lipton’s “The Biology of Belief,” which is supposed to be his simplest explanation — and extrapolation — related to his DNA research.

              2. Not sure if this is what you’re getting at, but my Mandela issues seemed to really flare to life after being involved in a huge car crash. Everyone who ran to the scene said they thought for sure I’d be dead, but I only nicked my ear slightly. Since, then, things have been a little strange, to say the least. Might everyone experiencing the Mandela effect be… dead?

                1. Hugh Curran, the percentage of people who’ve reported NDEs doesn’t support the idea that we’re dead, per se. I think everyone’s had multiple “close calls” — the almost-accident on the road, etc. — but few who’ve had an actual close brush with death.

                  However, I’ve seen many comments in which people speculate that in our respective “home” realities — the E Reality, perhaps (ref. Berenstein/Berenstain, etc.) — had a critical event where we might have died. Or, when the cataclysm was unavoidable, we simply bailed from that reality (a “gut response” we may not have known about and have forgotten, since) and landed in the nearest “almost like home” reality… here.

                  The continuity of some of these memories suggest we’re from — or have spent time in — the same or very similar realities, before arriving here. (And maybe we’re still cruising through interesting realities, just to test-drive them for different experiences.)

                  But, it’s also possible that some people might have made the same “getting out of Dodge” flight (ref. Urban Dictionary) to avoid death (or near death) in this reality, on a more individual basis, like a car crash.

                  1. Interesting, but Fiona I honestly do not think that the Mandela effect has to do with death per say. Why I say that is that there is still internet evidence of our previous realities… Examples being that when you Yahoo a famous quote or terms, the suggestions appear as the ones we remember from our reality but the results show otherwise! What would you say?

                    1. Mohammad, I’m trying to put this in context. I’ve skimmed the (admittedly long) thread and I need time to break this topic into individual sections.

                      Were you replying to my comment, replying to Hugh Curran’s comment, ?

                      I won’t rule out “past lives,” per se. I’ve seen enough curious evidence to believe they’re possible. (In fact, if we take one interpretation of quantum studies literally, every possibility creates a new universe/reality. So, in at least one reality, people reincarnate and are fully aware of their sequential lives.)

                      Had we visited one of them in a forgotten (or not) past, we might have carried those memories with us to this reality.

                      It’s a bit of a tangle.

                      However, like you, I don’t think death is especially relevant to our current Mandela Effect discussions. That’s an aspect of this that we may discuss later, after we take a look at other explanations and see if any can be supported with compelling evidence like clear patterns.

                      The appearance of “evidence” in this reality — contrary to events in this reality — can suggest that they’re from our recall of alternate realities. However — playing Devil’s Advocate, in a way — they might also suggest massive media reporting errors, history book glitches, or simple misunderstandings.

                      This is where date & location information will be useful. If it’s an error + contagion issue, it should track to a particular time and have a source we can find using historical records for that time & place.

                      So — for me, anyway — that’s the next phase of this research. As I see it, the rest is speculation (though I’m nodding in enthusiastic agreement with the alternate reality/ies theories) until we can comfortably rule out explanations in this reality.

                2. I had a aneurysm in 2005 and I died twice and was brought back. When I was 13 my dad died they brought him back. My older sister as well died and was brought back. My sister kept going on about feeling something was not right in her reality. Well her husband forced her into therapy. I felt it to starting in 2009. I did not tell anyone. My dad as well felt something being wrong to. Its like I can feel something wrong yet I can’t put my finger on actually what it is. They both felt the same to.

          2. Since I’m watching Stargate- the A is replaced with a symbol in the show

            Which makes my poor, addled brain wonder if the A might be disguised in ways.

        2. Regarding recent market comments (2015 reused chart from 1985?):
          Dow hit “record high” February 13, May 20, and December 26 of 1985; 2015 first break February 13, 2nd break May 19, December ?

        3. Daniel ,
          I have read, and re-read this comment for months. Your assessment of the years line up pretty well with mine. I have noticed minor shifts (don’t know what else to call them), starting in 1985 at eight year intervals, as well as your three-eleven pattern. 1993,2001,2009 (2009 for me was a MAJOR one). Mike H.

          1. Not sure how this happening here. But the previous post of mine was in reply to Daniels 7-23-15 post, not the above post from him. This has happened a few times. Strange. Mike H.

            1. Mike H., I am keeping track of this issue. It doesn’t seem to be huge, yet. However, it’s also showing up on my dashboard (where I moderate the site), as I have to use several filters even to find all recent, unapproved comments. I’m not sure if it’s a software issue, a database issue, or something else. (I may run some tests of this later, but not until the end of the year unless this becomes a massive and critical issue.)

              For now, I can move comments from one (top-level) page or article to another. I do that regularly when someone comments at the main Major Memories page instead of one of its comments sub-pages.

              However, I’m unable to link anyone else’s comments (other than my own) to different comment threads. So, when a reply lands in the wrong place — within something like the “Possible Explanations?” conversation, anyway — there’s nothing I can do. Sorry!

              1. Fiona, thanks for he reply! I know your swamped , just wanted you to be aware of it. Curious also, is their a limit to how many posts on the daily emails? I’ve noticed a lot of times I don’t get a of them. In other words posts show up in threads that I’ve not seen in the notifications. Again no big deal, keep up the great work! Mike H.

          2. Mike H. and Daniel,

            In the course of doing separate but tangential personal research, I Came across this (see Link below)”Bases” (Miles Johnson) YouTube video which all by itself is kind of interesting, its info/conclusions I am undecided about and most importantly not my point despite its MR relevant time/CERN subject Matter. Wat really caught my attention was the series of posts from mikewick77, which can be found right at the top of the comments section.


            The first post is a series of years patterns, then some “nodes” expressed numerically as years and a “Spectrum Paradox” and correlations to more years and events. There is very little in the way of verbal/word explanation, so I am guessing that if one has numerological cryptographic coded acumen or some such IDK, then what he has presented is self explanatory.

            I recalled the exchange you two had here in a similar vein-or so it seem to me to be – and thought perhaps if the two of you, or anyone for that matter, still find this numerical pattern/code direction to be fruitful you might have a look at it and report back … I remain curious but when it comes language expressed in numerical sequences I get really confused and can’t discern where or how to being to approach it. but I did have a sense of there being a potential significance to our pursuits here.
            Should you choose to pursue this tip,
            Good Luck and Have Fun!

      3. The ‘A’ marker refers to Bearenstein vs Barenstain. Hence the Mr Stain.

        Just wanted to point that out.

        1. I wonder if the A in the berenst*in bears was the Universe A referenced in the extended address section from a different post…? I do some writing with multiple universes, and in a lot of cases, since they’re all variations on earth, they just refer to a given universe by a defining characteristic, like these signposts described above.

      4. You know that’s funny and it’s hard to explain but I’ve always ALWAYS felt something about THAT year, about 2029.

        1. I do not recall 2029 as being reference to a year. I always found it strange that people connect any four digits to a date. Its time but not in the same sense. I recall what that is to be, But not what it was before that. Mr. Stain please forward.

    4. I’m going to try to explain this in the best “lay” terms I can possibly use. My terminology might be off, but this is me attempting “lay person speak” for the understanding of this situation. Yeah, this could be spooky if you aren’t a programmer or don’t know how files and programming work. But if you do know enough about programming, this isn’t a spooky situation at all: If you know enough about coding you can actually have a parent file where something is located that a sub file can be used to access it, but that sub file was never meant to be used. So through coding a coder can remove the link to that sub file for that information making it “appear” as if it had never been used. Coder’s do this when the original content that they want accessed and changed SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN accessed and changed in the parent file, not the sub file…and actually idiots who don’t know what they are doing can cause programmer’s a lot of grief by accessing sub files and messing around with stuff in there, when they should have been using the Parent file all along.

      No offense, totally not trying to sound like a jerk, just explaining how it has nothing to do with your memory being off…you can actually access and change the same data in two different files, BUT the programmer always meant for you to use File A instead of File B to do it. Hence, when you came in, the other guys (who know what they are doing) always used file A, which is why they told you that it should have always been file A and not file B, which is what you were using. In other words, though this could have a “spooky” reason behind it, more than likely this is just the kind of random idiocy that I see happen that frustrates main programmer’s to no end at every job they’ve ever had because the other 99% of the crew know how to access and change info at different points but don’t know why they SHOULDN’T ever have changed that same data at point B, but instead should have always been changing it all along at point A.

      1. Wonderbread,

        I was on the fence about approving this, because it’s rather in the “you’re just confused” category and some of the tone in your comment could sound just a tad bit insulting. However, being familiar with how coders talk, I think I correctly “hear” what you wrote and can attribute to geekspeak some of your phrasing.

        Also, I believe you might be missing a key point in david’s comment, particularly his emphasis on the shock of discovery. As I read what he posted, it’s not that the file issue was so extraordinary, but — to his own surprise — he’s had an unusually emotional reaction to it.

        From my own experiences with these kinds of memories, it’s not that the event du jour is so different from how I recall it; it’s that the discovery has such an odd impact on me.

        For example, why should I be utterly stunned when the hot and cold water taps seem suddenly reversed at a sink I’ve used often in the past? I can come up with logical reasons for the change (a recent visit by a dyslexic plumber, for instance). And, it’s not as if reversed water taps are the meaning of life or anything.

        For me, anyway, the anomaly isn’t just the reversal, but — almost standing apart from myself — noting my disproportionate reaction to the change.

        If you haven’t experienced Mandela Effect (or don’t react to it as I do), this may not make much sense. However, I think this will resonate with some ME readers.

        Also, I’m reading your comment and putting it in the context of this being a holodeck: What if the person at the controls (on some days) isn’t entirely sure which files to use, and — as some people are accessing the experience — accidentally loads the B file (the one where Billy Graham died, years ago)?

        I’m not sure if you intended that possible interpretation, but — just in case your comment is useful in this conversation — I’m approving it. And, thank you for taking the time to explain how file issues can occur and seem quite jarring to those not on the coding side of the keyboard.


    5. It’s impossible to change the past. The past, present and future co-exist. So, basically if anyone were to alter the past it would already have happened with no interruption to our timeline. It doesn’t have to be linear, because time is not linear.

      So things can happen in reverse order, effect on past comes before James enters time machine.

      1. Jeff, it’s a good idea to avoid absolutes like “impossible.” If time is a filing system, and something we (or someone/something else) constructed to keep events in an order that more-or-less makes sense, the order (or disorder) is a rather moot point.

    6. Me and my wife have had a joke for the last 5 years about how she is not my real wife. Its funny but not funny at the same time and its such a small detail over all of our life together. She could not twist her tongue in either direction when we got married and i use to make fun of her saying that the reason she couldn’t do it was because she was retarded (i know its a horrible thing to say and do not use that word any more. I have grown up a lot over 20 years). I remember clearly having the conversation with her several times. 5 years ago i was setting her up to make fun of her inability to do it and she did it with ease and swears that she has no memory of the conversation and has always been able to flip her tongue in both directions which is rare and i would (or should) know that and add to that that she remembers making fun of me because i could not do both ways only one. I know that is a small detail but it has effected me and her profoundly.

  2. I must say I’m looking forward to this discussion. I do have some ideas that I’d like to put forward, for consideration/discussion, and here are a couple:

    First, have you noticed that many of the changes are very subtle, to the point where they are audibly equivalent and thus almost orally “camouflaged” or unnoticeable? For example,
    – “Sex In The City”, “Sex And The City”
    – “Interview With A Vampire”, “Interview With The Vampire”
    – definitely, definately
    would sound the same to a listener hearing them pronounced. I mean there are infinite possible audibly-distinguishable variations that they could have been changed to instead. (Why not “Sex Around The City”, or Interviewing a Vampire”, or who knows…) I find it hard to believe this is just coincidence.

    Also, I can’t help but feel that the “motive” seems different, for different cases of these changes. The easiest example to use is the Tank Boy death at Tiananmen. It seems logical enough to posit that who/whatever has the capability to affect this kind of reality “reset” or change, might have done so in that case because the negative reaction to it perhaps went “out of control”, or beyond the bounds that They were expecting or willing to accept. (For what it’s worth, I do remember him dying in my reality, and it was beyond horrific. In fact this particular change caused me some serious social issues with a Chinese friend while visiting Beijing a few years ago, when I “remembered” him dying and she didn’t…she took great offense at the idea, marveling that I could even think her government so callous, and that I could make such a repulsive mistake. That little incident darkened my visit, spiraled me into confusion and self-recrimination, and frankly made me question my sanity.)

    1. JimboJones, I completely agree with your last sentence , I did that for years , I really thought I was losing my mind. I had started making a list a couple of years ago ,of all the things , twice or never dead celebrities, geography, media stories, ect., then one day I started looking online, which lead me to a few sites, and eventually Fiona’s. I was shocked ( and relived), that it wasn’t just me. Anyway, really good post. Mike

    2. Okay I remember learning about the tank man in high school and seeing the footage. And he died. Not only that, but I recall them running over crowded streets of protesters with tanks and it made me almost puke. I was shocked. So is that story still real? I mean if your friend was upset about tank man would they be more upset about tanks running over crowds of protesters? This is extremely concerning, I completely remember the outcomes. Now I’m being told different information. Its completely twilight zone.

      1. david, thanks for your comment. If others respond to this, I’d like to continue the discussion at the Tank Man article. Maybe anyone replying can quote the earlier comments (at this main page) when replying to them at the Tank Man post? (I’m trying to make it easier for site visitors to follow these great conversations, by topic.)

        1. As far back as i remember,and that includes going back into the previous universe with a pinkish hue,people were never so barbaric as to run tanks over a crowd.They were maverick like the citizens of Palermo throwing sleek stillettoes into the neck of unwanted intruders or like the revered fu manchu sending tiny insects and scorpions to relieve the ghosts of knighted englishmen and even while killing en masse they did it shyingly from great height,dropping a couple of nifty a bombs.But never ever they mowed down protesters,hell, they even evaded a loony,and let him climb atop their lead tank.

    3. I was thinking the same. The negative aspect of the person being killed by the tank caused problems with US/China relations or it may have caused a war and so was changed. That’s my take on it.

    4. All three of the changes you listed have the letter A involved. Interview with A Vampire; definAtely; Sex AND the City. That’s in addition to the BerenstAin Bears. The first two are older versions, the other two are newer changes. If, as Mr. Stain indicates, the letter A is a marker, there’s four of them right there.

  3. Fiona, your belief in parallel reality seems to be a matter of semantics,and that’s okay till a more appropriate term emerges.what we know beyond semantics is,that these memories are here to stay.I have tried for a pattern or patterns but it simply is not there.Perhaps we should forego the quest for explanation and concentrate on implications and a positive manipulation if possible.

  4. “I think there is something here..”

    I am really having trouble grasping this change – the change is evident now that it has been brought to my attention.. I have always been the type of person which what I considered above average memory – meaning I “remember” remembering specific details about my childhood but now – its difficult to remember – almost like still images.. but far less clear. let’s look at the state number issue – for me, and it was right in front of me but never thought much of it – these are my memories about the 51st state. When I would here Obama speak – I would chuckle sometimes because he would use the phase 50 states and I would think this guys doesn’t even know how many states we have.. sometime during my childhood in the 80’s, all that I can recall is there being big debate in the news as to which territory would become the 51st state. I remember there being celebration that Hawaii was to become the 51st state over Puerto Rico. I have this odd memory “very Vague” that I wanted the 51st to be Peurto Rico because I went there as a child with my parents. I was born in 74 and this memory seems to be from the early to mid 80’s maybe late 80’s. So if in my memory or reality is Hawaii becoming the 51st state then what were the other 50 states? I’m really having trouble grasping this because all i know if there is a strong memory about the news celebrating the 51st state and the change of the U.S. flag – I’ve tried to remember what the flag looked like but can’t.
    Now here’s what else is very strange for me. I don’t watch much TV anymore but one of the few shows I watch is “Once Upon a time”. this was mainly because the basis of the show is about hero’s and villains. I can’t help but think real world villains are trying to trying to get their happy ending and somehow the show has a seductive way of showing this – it revolves heavily around Walt Disney and the story he created with all the different stories and characters – Now here is where it get’s weird – in the latest finale – you find out about who is “author” – the person writing these “stories” that seem to have an effect on the future. Apparently with a special pen and book – reality can be changed but only by the author commissioned to recored “Time”. The 1st Author in the show is shown to be Walt Disney himself – you end up seeing who the second author is and his name in the story is Isaac Heller. During the finale you see how Isaac Heller becomes the author – He is given a letter to meet at a specific place and time – the letter is dated December 15, 1966 which is the day Walt Disney died. He arrives the next day at the location and becomes the ‘New Author” it is explained to him that there are other rhelms, doorways to alternate realities and that by being the new author he can write “new stories” but not allowed to change to future for himself – I have no idea if this makes sense but it gets stranger. Isaac Heller in real life was VP of a major toy company called Remco. So in the finale you see who the next author is after Isaac Heller which is a boy. Isaac Heller in our world died March 7th, 2015. The season finale aired for the 1st time on December 8th, 2015. This is right in line with the letter given to Isaac Heller in the show after Walt Disney’s death. Is their any connection here – how is it possible there could be a coincidence in the show and actual deaths?

  5. It seems like people are inclined to think these memory… fluctuations, if you will, are specifically related to some sort of ulterior motive or conspiracy.

    However, I think the most likely explanation if people are having interdimensional shifts (which in itself is a long shot), there is no rhyme or reason to it. It’s a natural phenomenon that happens frequently to everyone.

    I guess there’s also a possibility that time travels exists in the future and that, no matter how much travelers try not to, they invariably mess up the timeline. Those who have strong memories of an event retain those memories, while others adopt the memories of the new timeline. I prefer my former explanation, however.

  6. I know HOW this is happening. I drifted off to sleep a few weeks back, and suddenly something spoke and said something to me, as a matter of factly statement. I don’t remember what was said, now, although I did at the time; and I fully accepted what was said to me as though it were always that way.
    I believe in God, so you know, and I was awoken by God, to let me understand what had just happened to me. I sat up in bed and realized that whatever/whoever spoke to me, lied to me purposely, and I said out loud, “no, that’s a lie”.
    I wish I could remember now, but it is gone from me, good thing too. Next time though I will let you know what was said if it happens again. I believe I was protected by God.
    I personally think that CERN may be having some kind of effect upon us, while we sleep, at times, but not certain, of course.
    So as far as I am concerned, the how is explained. The why is the question that remains.
    I know this, whatever it was, it would have changed my view on something, completely, and it would have caused chaos in my life to believe that. This is certain.
    Hope this helped…Keep up the good work, and I pray God blesses you with answers to your questions.

    1. From one Barbara to another. I have heard stuff clearly while lying down too. I believe in God, and things are getting freaky these days. I highly believe CERN to be involved. I’ve had a few of these “false” memories, the Berenstein Bears, Interview with a Vampire (not the), and more. The WORST is the word definitely/definately. I am a pretty good speller, but this word has driven me nuts, my motor memory will not let me write it the “correct” way. After a few intense, focused retraining myself, I’m ok with it now, but I have said, *that* is the one word I will never spell correctly a few times in the past. I think some of it might be based on location. Supposedly there are places that deal with what CERN is dealing with smaller scales. I would look into the transamerica pyramid as one location. I was listening to how antimatter, which they’re dealing with, when let loose, can go to where other antimatter is no matter the distance, immediate. Why these things are being changed? Small things, like spelling? I think it has to do with accidental side-effects. Like maybe they changed something in the movie, and it made the author decide to change the word as a by-product. I think we’re only seeing the small side-effects.

      Anyone remember the Quantum Leap episode where Sam goes back to JFK’s assassination, doesn’t stop JFK from being killed, but apparently his wife was supposed to die too? So supposedly Sam saved JFK’s wife, and we all knew she was alive so it didn’t seem like anything had changed? Swiss-cheese brain anyone?,_Part_I_%28episode%29

  7. But there are patterns aplenty,the most striking pattern is the total reversal of status quo,a 180 degrees turn around.For example purple pink is exactly opposite to green yellow and incidentally a color after image.NZ at southeast is exactly opposite to perceived northwest location.Nelson Mandela metamorphed into a pacifist from notorious anarchist.An insignificant ‘A vampire’ became a popular ‘The vampire’.The gruesome crushing of tankman became a show of comedy as good as any humour produced at hollywood.

  8. Hi Fiona
    Can you remove all of my comments from each board? If not all then just the recent ones. I do not think they give a good message and eerie feeling.

    Thank you

    1. Daniel,

      I haven’t approved the most recent one, and I deleted the one before it. Let me know if you’d like earlier ones removed, as well.

      However, I’m hoping you’ll change your mind and let us keep the ones with the date sequences, or perhaps just the date-related parts of your comments.

      Your posts have sometimes had an eerie element, but — in general — the Mandela Effect can seem like an eerie concept. I’m not sure if it’s good to treat it lightly, or if we should examine it closely to understand it and even work with it, or what.

      I want to respect your wishes. After reading your latest ‘A’ comment, I have a better understanding of your context and concerns. So, if you tell me to delete all of your comments from the site (the comments I can find with a global search, anyway), I will.


  9. I found this site after all my BerenstEin Bears books inexplicably changed to the BerenstAin bears. Other anomalies have been noted: NZ location changed, only 50 states, chartreuse is green and not red, Tank man was not killed, Billy Graham, etc. I will say that have had more than one NDE experience, and seem to have more precognitive dreams than other people. Perhaps I am a more frequent slider, if such a thing exists?
    In any case, per the holodeck theory, one thing I have always been able to do is recall dreams with great accuracy, and in many of them, them seem to point to multiple concurrent existences. I always put this down to greater REM activity for some unknown reason. However, the frequency of these dreams has been increasing, which I find odd. In one particular dream, I was lying in a bed, with an IV in my arm. Above my bed was some kind of HD screen, with multiple little screens inside of it. Each of these was a different existence, in a separate universe. None were real, each was in fact a holodeck. Apparently, my anesthesia wasn’t working correctly and I kept waking up and my technicians kept having to put me under. I also had a device on my head that provided synaptic connections so the experience would seem real. Once my technicians adjusted my sedative dosage, I went under again, and woke up from my dream, back to my normal reality.
    Now, I understand that this is just a dream, I know what it sounds like, is no proof of anything, and is totally strange, but it has stuck with me for a very long time.

    1. Hi, Maria,

      Your dream’s description reminds me of something that I saw in my ‘teens (approximately 1989). I was hallucinating (due to a chemical effect), and understood it to be such even at the time (though it felt utterly real, more so than one might normally expect), but the contents of the hallucination struck me as highly unusual.

      In the hallucination, I was sitting in a chair (something like a bucket seat, with armrests and a headrest), centered within a polyhedral array of screens (perhaps 40 or 50, within my remembered view). As part of the hallucination’s innate backstory, I was aware of the fact that they were representative of different realities of which I was simultaneously participating (I say “representative” because, within the underlying mechanics of the hallucination, the premise was that my senses in that greater reality weren’t such that I possess as a human, nor that I could relate to in any fashion as a human) — much as one might imagine playing multiple video games at once, if one could do so (and if the video games were fully immersive of one’s sensorium…).

      Admittedly, there were some other rather odd elements in my hallucination that don’t pertain to your dream’s details (such as an infinite roulette wheel dividing two realizations of the universe from one another, and evil being a purple virus continuing to exist from a preceding universe to the subsequent one), but your multiple-concurrent-existences’-screens depiction is the only time that I’ve ever run into anything similar to what I had experienced.

      I hesitate to post this, given the hallucinatory nature of that experience, and don’t wish to denigrate your experience (or anyone else’s), much less potentially besmirch the topic with what could be construed as a euphemistically “chemically enhanced” moment… but then I consider the Yaqui and others with similar beliefs and practices; in the end, I’ll post this, and hope that it is of some use to someone.

      1. Closeted team-E, I was hesitant to approve this because — like you — the hallucinatory context concerns me. However, you’ve made some good points, and — despite the risks that some will dismiss your comment as drug-related — I think it may resonate with others.

  10. Hello everyone! I just found this website today, after someone showed me a page about the Berenstein bears (I don’t have a clear enough memory either way but the E looks somehow better to me). I don’t claim to have all (or even any) of the answers, but I’m a physicist so maybe I can help with a few things. At the very least I can be a fresh perspective to bounce ideas off of. I’ve read through your list of common memory changes and other than the bears the only one I’ve experienced is the color puce, which I think of as a shade of yellowish green, like chartreuse but a little more brownish. I also recall chartreuse being a dark red, as if those two switched completely.

    Personally, I don’t (yet?) believe that this is caused by actual time travel or alternate universes; I think it’s most likely some quirk of how human brains work that makes us susceptible to certain illusions, and these are shared by many people the same way there are common dreams. It would take quite a bit of undeniable evidence, or a clear mathematical proof that this stuff is possible, to convince me.

    I’ll start with the speculations about CERN experiments doing weird things to reality. To the best of my knowledge (which I believe is pretty good), this is not happening. Did the people who originally suggested CERN projects to you mention anything more specific, which ones in particular they suspected? I know what CERN is meant to do and how it goes about doing it, and there’s pretty much no way anyone could sneak in a secret project on the side from all the other ones. It would simply take too much effort to build the equipment, hire tens of people and many more computers to analyse the data, and everything else –impossible to keep it all hidden from the public even if they wanted to.

    What CERN (or more specifically, the LHC) does is take protons and accelerate them with strong magnetic fields so they’re going super fast, and then smash them into each other to see what comes out. There are four collision locations around the accelerator ring, each with different sets of detectors to look at different things. One of the primary purposes of the LHC was to find evidence for the Higgs boson (the final piece of the Standard Model of particle physics) , which it did. But the Standard Model is not complete: it doesn’t include gravity at all, or things like neutrino oscillations. So now the LHC has been upgraded and is looking for evidence of supersymmetry, one of the more popular extensions of the Standard Model. Every time a new accelerator energy is announced people always think it’s going to make a black hole and destroy the world or something, but it would take something a million billion (10^15) times stronger than even the upgraded LHC to do that. This is called the Planck energy –the Planck scale is where things get weird and our usual models start to break down. Anything like crossing between parallel universes would almost certainly take at least this much energy as well.

    On another note, there’s Mr Stain’s “time processor” comment. The choice of username is very suggestive of the Berenstein vs Berenstain issue, especially since he mentioned “the A” as a timeline marker. The most interesting part to me though is the warning about the year 2029. I remember a few years ago there was quite a bit of worry over the large asteroid Apophis, which had a (relatively) high chance of impacting the Earth in 2029, and also a chance that if it missed by just the right amount it could come back in 2036. More precise observations have since ruled out an impact, but for a while it was considered the biggest threat to Earth. The Wikipedia page says concern was greatest in 2004 and the threat was downgraded in 2006, but I seem to remember that being much more recent, more like 2010-2013. The earlier dates come before I would have known about this sort of stuff. I have no idea what Mr Stain means about “the awakening”, or how cell phones factor into this.

    I hope this is helpful. It’s certainly a weird phenomenon and I’d like to know exactly what’s going on, whether it’s unknown physics or just a psychological trick. Either way it’s very interesting.

    1. Versylfa, those are some excellent comments, thanks!

      Mr. Stain did a good job of raising many questions. Without more supporting information, I haven’t a clue what to think. I’m hoping he returns with more insights.

      I also haven’t looked into behavioral changes that may be tied to mobile phone usage, as that’s a path that turns murky and conspiratorial in a blink. (Personally, I rely on landlines anyway. That’s for connection/reception consistency when I’m participating in radio interviews. So, my mobile phone is rarely used… if that makes any difference. I have wondered how many other “Luddites” are active in this discussion, and may add a poll about that, later.)

      The CERN connection is odd. I also want to make it very clear that people who contacted me privately only said they were involved in physics. While I felt that their involvement in (or at least deep study of) CERN seemed fairly likely, they went out of their way to be very vague about the experiments and tests they were talking about.

      We know about CERN. However, those contacting may have been talking about other, quantum-related experiments that aren’t reported in the media.

      CERN is rather large and difficult to hide. Quantum research doesn’t have to be huge or obvious. For all we know, they could have a facility disguised as a water processing plant, or in something that looks like an Amazon warehouse, or be working in the back of an apparently empty strip mall, or a dusty basement lab at MIT. (Then again, I think JPL and its corporate counterparts have stayed well under the radar and should not be overlooked. )

      I haven’t a clue. The scientists — if that’s what they are — have used Hushmail and asked me not to reply, anyway. Also, I’m pretty sure I’m only hearing from two people; due to my experience recognizing speech syntax (from my days as an editor for MIT), the use of language suggests two people. I would not rule out pranksters trying to turn this into some ridiculous demonisation of CERN. But, I also can’t rule out the authenticity of their information.

      This subject and speculation are generally fun and fascinating. And, I appreciate your input. The Apophis topic was new to me, and both chilling and interesting at the same time. (If we’re to believe what’s reported: )


  11. I happened to stumble upon this site because of The Berenstein Bears phenomenon. I will go to my grave declaring its “Stein” not “Stain”. I too have noticed time shifts, alternate universes, whatever you want to call it. I really thought about it last night and I have always just thought I misinterpreted the news or made a mistake. It’s good to know I’m not the only person.

    I have experienced time slips in 1988, 1990, 1992, 2004, 2010, and 2013. There are moments I remember crystal clear that happened but now see that in this timeless it was a different time.

    The biggest one for me other than The “Berenstein” Bears issue are the deaths of Billy Graham and The Reagans. I remember clearly around 2000, talking to my grandmother about Billy Graham’s death and watching it on tv. Another time period later my Grandmother was talking to me about Billy Graham and said how old he was and I was flabbergasted because I know I watched his funeral on tv.

    The Reagans are in and out of timelines it seems. For one, I may sound off my rocker here, but I distinctly remember Reagan being President in 1989. I don’t recall a 1988 election at all. I was only 7 at the time but I have been a political junkie since I could talk. 2. I know Ronald Reagan passed away before 2004. I remember watching his funeral and hearing about it for weeks when it happened. I recall it happening around 2002. 3. I still can’t believe Nancy Reagan is alive. I know I heard about her passing away over a decade ago. I vividly remember seeing it on tv, hearing about etc;

    There are many other instances, like The Death of Patrick Swayze, Louie Anderson, The Berlin Wall, and others. I’m not saying I couldn’t have misinterpreted some of these events, but a lot of other people seem to have noticed some of these things too.

  12. Fiona, have you noticed how many more posters have been here the last couple of days ??? I did a quick internet search their are a half dozen other sites with this topic having a huge uptick in postings. I saw a tweet from George Takei about the Bears?? What is going on, did the Mandela Effect go mainstream and I missed it? I will admit that a lot of the posters, here and other places are really bringing some new things up and verifying many of the ones we have discussed. I’m floored at the amount of traction this topic is getting all of the sudden. Wasn’t sure where to post this, Mike H.

    1. Ah-ha! I’ve been wondering about that, myself. The posts I approve are a small portion of the ones I’ve been weeding through, this week. Thanks for the information! (And, if George happens to see this, I knew him back in the early Star Trek convention days, when I did artwork — mostly program illustrations — for Bjo Trimble’s events, and was a go-fer at them, too. Great memories of taping down electric cords in the main hall with Jimmy Doohan, and setting up folding chairs with Bill Campbell. So, I’m delighted that George is talking about this topic, too.)

  13. I do remember BerenstEin too, and BarbAra Streisand.

    But I can’t be certain enough to call this an alternate dimension/universe just yet. Being highly scientifically minded and analytical, I think perhaps some more cross-references might help clear up at least certain topics?

    For example, regarding “Definitely” or “Definately”:
    How is the word “finite” spelled? “Finate” or “finite”? Same goes for “infinite” and “infinitely”. Assuming those appear correct, then why would “definitely” be any different? It simply has a different prefix.

    1. Glenn,

      I appreciate your logic regarding the etymology and inconsistency of definitely/definately, but you’re assuming that spelling rules and root words in this reality are the same as in the reality where the word is spelled “definately.”

      In this reality, the English language is full of odd exceptions when we look at roots, pronunciations, spellings, and meanings. Some examples: Uses of “cleave” and “guantlet” – Appraise/apprise –

      Many English words have interesting — and sometimes conflicting — Germanic and Latin roots. ( ) Many websites provide lists of ridiculous spellings and pronunciations. (Example – ) Add words we’ve adopted from other languages, including French and Greek, and the topic has more twists than a pretzel. (And, for amusement, the roots of “pretzel” – 1815-25, Americanism; < German Pretzel, variant of Bretzel; Old High German brizzila < Medieval Latin bracellus bracelet ) And then there's the difference between how I spell words intended for an American audiences and for British audiences ( [link not working at the moment] )… and when I’m not so picky and write however I want.

      If you’re looking for logic and consistency, the English language is not the place to begin. Nor is the Mandela Effect.


      1. What if we drop the “ly” at the end of “Defin(i/a)tely, and stick with the actual root word, “Define” (which has neither an ‘i’ or ‘a’)?

        I’m not saying which versions of these should look right or wrong, but there should at least be consistency between them. If you perceive that ‘Definately’ is the correct spelling, then it follows that you should also perceive that “Indefinately” or “Indefinate” are correct as well. We should at least be able to be consistent with ourselves, right now (assuming the spelling of the words hasn’t changed since the thread started).

        Definite or Definate? Which looks correct?

        Indefinite or Indefinate?

        1. Glenn,

          I see your logic but feel as if we’re wandering down a narrow, peripheral path here.

          The point where I really disagree is the “able to be consistent with ourselves.” In recent months, I’ve seen many more comments where people have two memories, each conflicting with the other to some degree.

          So, I can say that both “definite” and “definate” look correct to me, but I’m someone who keeps switching between the spellings “grey” and “gray.” I’m allowing that this may have affected how I look at some spellings.

          Being a synesthete as well, I’m not the person to weigh in on which spellings look correct.

          In the past, I’ve worked as an editor and proofreader, so I’m usually aware of which spellings are common usage in England and America.

          However, that intellectual view isn’t the same as my subjective, perhaps ME-related view: Different spellings may be correct in different realities, and some of those realities may have even more irregularities and inconsistencies than this one does. One of the quirky features of the Mandela Effect is how inconsistent our memories seem to be, at least in the context of this reality. For me, that makes all of this rather fun.


          1. Fiona, not sure what made me try this. On Youtube when you force spell dilemna in the search box, a lot of videos come up spelled that way. I’m not talking about just things people have posted (those are important also), but official video releases from recording labels. If this was the incorrect spelling I would think they would have that corrected. Some of the artists even have the (supposedly) wrong spelling in the titles of their songs. Pages of this stuff on YT.

            Also wanted to see if you had gotten any of the “in private” emails I had sent. Only curious, because the last one I sent, their were about half a dozen older ones since March, saying awaiting moderation. I know your busy, I did not need a reply on any of them. Just curious if they even got through.

            Mike H.

            1. Mike H,

              Thanks for the info. And the “in private” comments will always say “awaiting moderation” because that’s my only option. Otherwise, I have to approve them (and the public see them) or send them to the trash. (At the moment, I have 120 private comments at this site, and I’ve read every one of them.)

              I’m deciding what to do about a topic you mentioned (in private), referring to my brief exchange with another reader who’d mentioned a paranormal tie-in with ME. I think that may be something to explore at one of my other websites where people are more aggressively trying to make sense of that phenomenon.

              But, for now, I’m still coping with the daily deluge of fascinating comments at ME, while trying to stay on track with the research & books that make it possible for me to maintain this site in the first place! LOL

              Mostly, your YouTube research is brilliant. It never crossed my mind to check that as a resource for some of these issues.



              1. Thanks for the reply Fiona! Thanks for clearing up how the private emails work. I actually had not been to your other websites, but going to check them out! Now I will let you get back to work ,keep up the fascinating work, Mike H.

              2. Fiona, meant to tell you there is a large article on the ME over at the Vice website. Mike H.

          2. Hi I understand I am new and all but I have some incite that may help. It is worth noting I am 18 or so years of age yet, I have many years of experience in this endeavor. We are attempting to theorize here on this platform the likely hood of multiple universes. Well here is what I know and or have currently taken as my current standard facts regarding our scenario.

            1. There are three separate realities I personally jump to.
            2. There exist’s an unknown number of plausible universes.
            3. There are currently five separate realities assessable from the reality in which this topic was placed.

            Now that this has been stated let us discuss (well first me respond if you will) why and how the particulars work regarding the varies realities I have encountered.

            1. You cant
            2 .Each domains physics differ so slightly it is near impossible to work out the particulars. (I theorize it can be done if a lifetime of studies is done and somehow kept in a place assessable from all “dimensions”)
            3. Every thing happens in threes….

            Look to the history.

            Each worlds history varies so vastly it is rather annoying. You see small changes such as (the Roman Empire falling due to Europe deceiving them during the Middle Ages in an acute yet surprisingly effective espionage.) will change the course of history for that “dimension”

            Before I get carried away with my theory and experience does anyone have any oppions on these theory’s each number and paragraph display separate lessons I have learned in the varying realities I have encountered.

  14. I’ve commented in a couple of other forums, but I simply cannot get this out of my head. For the past couple of days, since I’ve discovered this Manela Effect, I’ve been wracking my brain and realizing scads of things that I’ve previously brushed off. Mainly, that I vividly recall trying to discuss multiple universes with my mother when I was 7-8 years old. She brushed it off as imagination, but I could not let it go. I’ve always felt… connected, somehow, felt that when I dream, that’s one universe, and I’m a dream to another, etc, so forth and so on. It feels like I progress, ascend if you will, as I gain insight and knowledge. Not to a religious or better place necessarily, but one where I can grow a little more until it’s time to move into the next waking. But I don’t think it’s single to me as an individual, but more like there are certain times that a waking will occur, and some people make the cut while others don’t. So we kind of sync with the people we’re closest to, which is why our memories are usually similar. Does that even remotely make sense? It’s so difficult to put it into words.
    I can almost pinpoint the first time I noticed (noticed, mind you, it may have happened before) around 1998 and 1999. The incidents kept happening, but when I tried to talk with others about them, I was blown off with a shrug and smile. So I stopped talking about it. I concealed the feeling and the events (“waking” is how I’ve always thought of them, as I feel slightly elevated consciousness each time I realize it’s happened, which may be entirely in my head).
    When I saw George Takei’s post, and the comments that eventually led me here, I felt the most profound relief that I’m not alone, as I previously thought.
    Even now, though, considering the history I have with trying to explain this, I feel slightly self-conscious in sharing this. But if I’m going to share it, I think this is the place.
    So my theory (for what it’s worth) is that consciousness ascends to different universes for whatever reason, like waking up and stretching after a vivid dream that fades but still lingers in the back of the mind.

      1. I’m not familiar with Everworld, but based on the very quick google search I did, I think I’ll familiarize myself with it.

        It’s surprising that I’ve not heard of this, as I grew up fascinated with mythology, science fiction, conspiracies, and all other sorts of things normally outside the realm of a teenage girl. (No boy bands for me)

        I’ve had a little time to think and read theories and I think the one I most lean toward is that we “travel” or “shift” while sleeping, which would somewhat explain why I feel as though I’ve woken from a dream.

        I’ll check out Everworld. It seems right up my alley.

  15. I am curious, does anyone else on here remember the Phoenix lights happening either in 2000 or 2001? I could swear that I saw them when my family was travelling during that time. Also, I remember seeing my grandpa watching the news conference about the lights (the one where they had the person in an alien costume walk in wearing handcuffs.) in the house they got at the end of 2001. But all the books and websites say that they happened in 1997.

    1. I keep meaning to reply to you and forgetting.

      I remember the Phoenix Lights being in 2002. I grew up in the Midwest, but in January of 2002, my parents and siblings moved to Arizona. I was already an adult living on my own and in college and working, I stayed in the Midwest. I remember the Lights happening after my parents moved. I recall joking with my mom on the phone about Area 51. I would have had no particular interest in the phenomenon in 1997, when I was 16 and still living with my parents in the Midwest.

      I suspect it will be difficult to confirm this alternative memory on a “major” scale, though, as the subset of people who know about and are interested in those sort of phenomenon is fairly small compared to those who have read “those Bear books”.

  16. I wasn’t sure where to post this – some thoughts re. who experiences the effect.

    I’ve seen people refer to ‘awake’ people and other terms for those who experienced the Berenstein reality – I think a better term is ‘self-determined’.

    The common thread is those who have attempted to think for themselves and to lead their own lives, folk with self determination, free will if you like. I think this is a massive clue.

    Perhaps, and I don’t quite believe this, reality was altered (once/multiple times) and an attempt/s were made to program human kinds memories to fit the new reality – except it didn’t work for the self determined folk. There are also dozens of other ways to look at this. I’ll save that for future sleepless nights and ramblings.

    1. That sounds fairly reasonable.

      Perhaps an explanation for major events (such as parents, major life memories) is that memories can line up like an overlay. The major part of the picture matches well enough, but a few little details are off. For the most part, those little details are overlooked but some people (whether through constant shifts or changes) simply cannot overlook it.

      Personally, I think the shifts (if that’s what they are) feel natural as opposed to forced. But if we’re to examine it all, that could be explained as a part of my overlay that still matches.

    2. J.T.,
      I am in complete agreement with what you have said. I think you are on to something with this though. Speaking for myself, I know that my whole life I have questioned everything, never taking anything at face value, especially if someone says I need too, or have too. I.E. , the media, teachers, instructors, bosses. Sometimes this worked out well for me, and sometimes , lets just say not as planned. I do get tired of people that never question anything, it’s like they are walking commercials of whatever is on T.V., or the internet. Parroting the latest “catch phrase”, or newest “fad”. Because for the most part someone told them it was “cool” or “in style”. I realize people have always been like this, since the beginning of our existence. BUT, I think in this digital age it has reached ridiculous levels. The media is a powerful tool, it is very easy to control masses of people with it. Mike H.

    3. Like what a divergent is? I think someone knows about ME and just leaves clues in media for us to figure out, in a better note, if ever there will be a time where it would be possible to make experiments to determine ME, i think it would be now thru the Internet hive mind

  17. i’ve been thinking of possible explanations and so far I have come up with the following , some of which have already been mentioned in this thread. I believe it is important to attempt to think outside the box and not rule out any options otherwise we may miss part of the puzzle.
    Here goes:

    1. Morphic Resonance – The more of us that think we have these alternative memories, then the more people who then think they have them too. The more memories I read on this site, the more convinced I am that I have these shared memories too. See the work done by Rupert Sheldrake.

    2. Transported from an alternative reality – Have we hopped over from an alternative or similar reality? Maybe accidently through astral travel and/or leaving our body to return to another of our selves.

    3. Possible false memory – People generally filter the reality around them based on their own beliefs and expectations. There are numerous reports of various accidents or crime scenes with a handful of individuals describing the event with specific details left out or other aspects exaggerated or just simply incorrect. High emotions particularly fear can play a part here.

    4. Changes in the past – I’m thinking of the experiments done by CERN here as we approach the proposed limit of time and space. Is this indirectly causing past ripples in time/reality that a number of us are picking up on?

    5. A glitch in the matrix/control system – this feels similar to the 11:11 phenomena and deja vu etc. We know it shouldn’t be happening yet somehow it is. For those of us who don’t know about 11:11. It’s the increased noticing of this pattern of numbers on clocks, in the media and general life. We can also include 22:22 and 12:34 etc here. Is this a call to awakening? Is someone or something trying to give us a message?

    It may be a combination of these and I am sure there are plenty of other explanations too. Personally I think the world and reality around us is a lot more subjective and flexible than perhaps we have been led to believe from the educational system we were all brought up with.

    Going forward we are living in unusual times and I predict more of these and other effects happening in the next few years…

    1. Ricardo, that’s a good summary. We’ve already discussed issues related to false memory and Sheldrake’s work. (See my page, Terms: Comments for details.) The rest of these are worth considering on a case-by-case basis.

  18. I don’t know if it’s been discussed in the comments but I wanted to get it down before I forgot (then back to reading the comments) but I had noticed one day that some old statues and drawings from way back looked strangely like our astronauts now. I did some digging and found that this was, in fact, a theory. A possible explanation could, in fact, be real and actual time travel.

    1. The theories of time travel (or time looping) appears to be relevant. Not only ancient astronauts, but technology as well. Example: there are many ways to build a car, if OTHER paths are possible then they would be represented as well… The “ancient technology” appears clearly to be ours. This is born out from Delta wing “virmani” to ancient space suits, to helicopters, and submarines. Perhaps we should take it as WARNING that not very much futuristic technology is exemplified by past art….

  19. So yeah, this happens to me all the time. There was a scientist named Hugh Everett. He was the top man in parallel universe/infinite quantum multiverse thinking. Hugh believed in something called “quantum immortality”–that when he would die, in a car crash or something, let’s say, his consciousness would simply shunt over to the nearest parallel universe (“B”, let’s say) in which he somehow survived (or never even experienced) that crash that had “killed” him in universe A. This seems to be the closest analog to what I experience. Minor shades of difference, sure, but survival, and on we go. For me this happens a lot. Example: in an earlier version of things for me, David Tennant was a visible, out and proud gay man. Did interviews in all the press, first out gay Doctor, etc. Well, here he’s a legendarily notorious ladies’ man and not gay at all (so far as I know, anyway–apologies, Local Tennant.)

    Here, there’s a currently-running TV series starring Matthew Perry from “Friends” as Oscar Madison in “The Odd Couple”. Yeah, we don’t have that where I last came from. I’m sorry you folks have it here.

    Up the street from my house there’s this weird bit of city water pipe/valve thing in the rough shape of a camel. It’s blue. I passed it every day. It’s been blue for 20 years. Only it isn’t. Here, it’s this weird nasty beige, and upon examination, has not been painted…in about 20 years. It didn’t change, but clearly I did.

    As far as the Berenstain bears, it’s always been with an A for me. However, I will tell you there was a time where for everyone around me –including the physical copies of the books themselves–it was with an E, and I was the only idiot arguing that their name somehow had the highly improbable word “stain” in it. Nice to be back in an A universe for a while.

    Like, here, Theodore Bikel just died last month. Which impressed the hell out of me since he also died in 1985. Congrats on the extra 30 years, Local Bikel! It’s always something. Lots of little somethings.

    I keep hoping one of these universes will have the Beatles reunion. No such luck yet, but I’m a pretty bad driver, so any minute now.

    There’s also probably a universe where I had the good sense not to post this. It’s all true, for what it’s worth. I’m a real person (relatively speaking, of course). I’m pretty well used to it at this point. I don’t know anything useful and I can’t really help anyone figure this out. I’m not a doctor nor do i play one on TV. Just passing through, as it were. 🙂 Nice to see some fellow travelers who’ve taken the time to enjoy the scenery. I’m sure one day it’ll all be clear. Best of luck.

    1. Cait,

      Thanks for that comment. You’ve added some useful terms that I’ll probably use in future discussions (such as “local” for what’s in this timestream). Your attitude towards this is one I can identify with. Definitely cool and stylishly written.

      Thanks again!


  20. Any two realities that share a timeline close enough can stream-slip together. Anything that is the same between the two will merge. This is most noticeable when the merging occurs with an individual and their counterpart. During the stream-slip, one reality remains dominant, but there would be no way to tell how that is determined. It’s obvious though, because if someone was remembered as dead but revised to be alive, clearly the reality on which the individual was still alive has taken dominance.

    From my observations, it seems as though these stream-slips can only happen between timelines that are more or less the same, with only a few marginal differences. I would go so far as to reference the brane theory in that timelines that are spatially (if you can call it that) adjacent to eachother are inherently similar, presumably having diverged from eachother previously in their timelines. Therefore, they may actually exert an amount of gravity on eachother, but depending on what you think of graviton theory, this might not be something you agree with. Personally, I like to think that dark matter is the residual gravity lagging between adjacent realities.

    I haven’t yet found a way to tell if someone is dominantly a local or transient, but I assume it wouldn’t make much of a difference if they are a merger, as they would be, more or less, both simultaneously.

  21. I will most assuredly be back with more musings, LOL, but in the meantime I had two thoughts and a pondering.

    First,the pondering, to get it out of the way. Relating to a celebrity, David Byrne of Talking Heads. I’ve always liked TH, despite the fact that Byrne himself is *really* weird, in a way that seems alien. I believe he has “slid”. The references in Once In A Lifetime seem to point to it unmistakably. But it’s not even the “you may find yourself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife / and you may ask yourself, well how did I get here” bit that I mean. It’s the next verse:
    And you may ask yourself
    How do I work this?
    And you may ask yourself
    Where is that large automobile?
    And you may tell yourself
    This is not my beautiful house
    And you may tell yourself
    This is not my beautiful wife

    For some reason, one of the things that really freaked me out about Mandela Effect is Madagascar being in a different place and uninhabited. Of all the bizarre changes, that one really makes things feel “wrong” for some reason. And one of the first questions I had for myself was, how do I work this? Can I get back to the reality in which MY Madagascar exists?

    I’ve gotten past that point now. Madagascar is still wrong, but I’m also OK with being here. I appreciate the positive things that exist here. I have peripheral awareness that in other timeliness, I do better, but they are also different in larger ways. My children, my siblings, my husband…I have a sensation of ending up in the right mix, despite us getting here from different ways (it’s particularly striking to me that my husband and I share a number of alternative memories, but we are NOT the same age in this reality. He’s 12 years older. The idea that we both existed in a BerenstEin time line, as well as a fall 1985 Challenger explosion one, as well as a brown eyes Hitler one, as well as a smaller uninhabited Madagascar one, and yet also have a number of different memories the other doesn’t share, and that we both ended up here, conscious of this phenomenon, and accepting of it…It amuses me in a way I can’t even explain. Like delight in a cosmic game).

    Anyhow. My two thoughts relate to the cryptic significance of the changes comment. It’s because I rewatched an episode of NCIS the other day, in which it’s Kate Todd’s first case aboard an aircraft carrier. Part of the humorous secondary storyline revolves around her learning the coding system that identifies the location and purpose of different compartments, and how it can be used to navigate the ship. (By the end of the episode, she’s mastered it, and proves her skill by getting to the record room while DiNozzo ends up in the laundry.)

    I can “see” the changes having/being markers that identify a location, as well as your starting position and route of travel through a multiverse. I can see that my and my husband’s overlapping and diverging paths have lead us to a now. And I feel there is *some* way to suss out the code of where we came from relative to the now. I think that unlocking that code is the mechanism through which we could “work this” and control a slide.

    My second thought regarding this is that in all of the theories along the conspiracy variety that I have read, none feel totally authentic to me. I don’t feel that it’s “TPTB” doing something to us, because I feel that ultimately they don’t matter in this game. They only think they do. I feel that this is a natural phenomenon of a quantum universe.

    1. And you may ask yourself
      What is that beautiful house?

      And you may ask yourself
      Where does that highway go to?

      And you may ask yourself
      Am I right?…Am I wrong?

      And you may say to yourself
      My God!…What have I done?!
      …same as it ever was…
      Time isn’t holding up
      Time is an asterisk
      …same as it ever was…

      Yeah, I have been thinking the same thing about this song…

    2. Reading your comment I realized I am a temporal ex pat at the moment. Challenger happened in fall of 85 for me and Hitler had brown eyes. I also am a stein native .

  22. Hello all. First time poster.

    I’ve noticed weird examples of this for years. E.g. a movie with Sinbad where he plays a genie but the closest thing would be Kazaam with Shaq. This whole thing with the Bears freaked me out. I then remember an occurance when I was 14 and went to visit my family in Poland. I met a girl there named Kinga. She dated my cousin at that time. We took a group picture with all my friends there the day we left. I still have the picture. When I went to Poland when I was 19, no one remembered her but me. I went again when I was 25 and met her randomly at a pub with another friend of mine. I brought it up to my cousin and he said they still hang out once in awhile..

    Back to the Bears…it seems that it is a way for our collective consciousness to ‘wake up’ together. The theory that makes most sense to me is that the Bears had the spelling change to retroactively change things because it would be something many people would notice. It seems small, but it will be something many people will notice. It seems more of a deliberate method in order for the masses to get hit with these new reality bending thoughts. Perhaps, this is just the start of a series of events that will occur, which in consequence will conpletly warp reality.

  23. I’ve been riding motorcycles for over 35 years and always buckled them on the right side. Imagine waking up to buckling the same scuffed up helmet on the left. I have memories that don’t match any pictures and pictures that don’t match any memories. Several of the schisms you pointed out, including TAPS are strongly ingrained in my memories. I have always believed in Quantum, I am familiar with how easy it is to trick the mind, and how perceptive we as humans aren’t. My take on it is that we control our own destinies. I theorize Thou art god. I theorize each of us experience everything, every possibility. I theorize we are directing ourselves on the path with the best outcome of our own existence. I theorize we “jump worlds” because our future is already written on a path, best determined by ourselves, based on all the painfully bad decisions we experienced and rejected, or died from. Thank you for establishing a site that, in small part, makes me feel less crazy. (On the crazy note, while most of us are bothered by small inconsequential things, I theorize schizophrenics actually retain more information about alternate realities and frequently jump between worlds with lower energy thresholds but fundamentally higher personal differential)

  24. Why are people assuming that this is a new phenomenon? I don’t think it is. People are just noticing it recently because mass communication and the Internet makes it possible to notice. Hell, standardized spelling has only been around for a couple hundred years. How would someone who shifted universes in 1560 be able to even figure it out, unless they were in the tiny minority with access to more or less accurate records?

    I am not worried about CERN or cell phones, though the fact that I’ve done pretty much EVERYTHING on your reality – altering activities poll might explain a few things.

    1. Well, there are stories of people being kidnapped by the fairies to their magical realm. When they return, everyone around them has aged by many years, or even died, while the person who lived with the fairies thinks only a few days passed. I wonder if such stories have their basis in something else, something like ME, and the people actually slid into a different reality and back again.

  25. Sara, Very few people are assuming that this is a new phenomena,and even those few are just saying that cern could be a cause without denying that the phenomena might be an eternal,quid pro quo.

  26. Some remote viewers explain memories as information stored in something akin to a database, and our brain is the instrument that queries the database and retrieves/returns the information to our conscious awareness. In this case, one’s brain wouldn’t need to change locations or dimensions or “realities” to produce the effects we’re witnessing. All that would need to happen: the database either merges with another, similar one, or… something else along these lines occurs. 🙂

    Related: human consciousness/intent has been shown to affect quantum processes and marcro-events (affecting random number generators). These effects have been shown to be greater when multiple people focus their attention together. Time is experienced subjectively in such a way that its speed is quite variable. The human population is greater than it’s ever been by FAR. The internet has enabled more communication among people simultaneously than ever before, and there are billions of us sharing information about our conscious experiences with each other. What if this is having an effect on reality? What if this is causing stress on the system in some way? What if the effect of so much focused intent is actually disturbing something fundamental in the structure of the information-system that underlies reality? For example, when Princess Diana’s death was announced, random number generators recorded huge effects. As our cultures homogenize, we are increasingly focusing our attention on the same events. I wonder what effects this might have.

    We also experience time subjectively – slows, quickens depending on conscious events. What if there are group effects that affect subjective experiences in other ways as well, and what if we we, as a group, dilate or contract time in such a way as to create weak points that allow for slippages? I think it could actually be strongly related to time. Movement through time affects how much one moves through space similarly to how moving east/westward affects how far you move north/south in a given amount of time – diagonal movement effect). If we’re changing the pace at which we’re experiencing *obejctive* time, maybe this changes our path through the spatial dimension in a way that makes us… fall behind or ahead of our own reality, so we fall into whatever reality is right behind or ahead of ours (not backwards/forwards in time though, just in whatever dimension realities are lined up in, tee hee!).

  27. Oops! I just posted in the Quantum Computer page when I should have put that comment here! Can you please redirect that comment for me, maybe?

    I also have another idea for consideration on cause that’s related to the alternate geographies. It seems to me that a lot of the alternate geographies involve locations where one might find dangerous experiments (quantum computing/physics like CERN) being conducted.
    – Koreas: Seoul is ranked as the world’s “tech capital of the world” South Korea is also among the world’s most technologically advanced and digitally-connected countries (Wiki).
    – Australia: If the British (or even Americans) were going to conduct top-secret, potentially dangerous CERN-like experiments, they would most likely use Australia (which is mostly empty on it’s western side and now that New Zealand’s moved from West of Australia to East of it, you don’t even have to worry about endangering NZ-ers!)
    – Mongolia: China or Russia (each of whom own Mongolia as a territory/region in alternate realities) would likely use this land as it is far from their capitals and major cities and underdeveloped & sparsely populated, which helps keep things secret)
    – Japan: Japan (they have little choice)
    – Cuba: Guantanamo is located here, on US-controlled territory. Funnily enough, despite his promises to close it if he became president, Barack has yet to close it down and it still receives funding from the DOD.
    – the US: the US. 🙂
    – Sri Lanka: India is also heavily invested in developing a competitive tech industry (not just computing-knowledge; Chandrayaan: India’s space program researched and developed its own technology in order to explore the Moon), and I wonder if they’d use Sri Lanka for dangerous experiments that could have disastrous effects (maybe they expected black holes that would swallow things up, or dark matter that would annihilate matter in a given radius?).
    – The Baltic Sea countries I’m not so sure about. 🙂

    I find it intriguing that Canada doesn’t seem to have changed (I’m Canadian), I don’t see anything about the Middle East undergoing changes, or Africa (with the exception of Madagascar – but again, this is less populated (although I’m from the reality where it was mainly uninhabited) and underdeveloped and not close to large, “important” cities. Also, it belonged to France up until very recently, so maybe the Europeans made a deal to use it?) South America seems relatively unscathed.
    Basically, countries that wouldn’t have much involvement in CERN-like science or quantum-computing development, or relation to a country that does, seem to have fewer reports of geographical anomalies!
    Am I on to something here?!? 😀

    1. Over the years I have seen a lot of theories. But the one you presented on alternate geography , makes as much sense as any I have seen. I have been thinking along the lines of technology myself. CERN and like experiments also, but you have tied them all together quite well. So let me be the first to answer your question. Yes, I think you might just be onto something. Mike H.

      1. Mike H, on the CERN note: At least one New Age group is tracking CERN activity and — on the dates of predicted surges of activity at CERN (including last Saturday, 15 Aug 2015) — scheduling meditations to mediate the effects in our reality. We’ll need a few tests of this to see if it effects anything like GCP (, much less the culture in general. And, since this coincides with CERN activity, I’m not sure we can separate the meditation effects from the impact of what’s going on at CERN.

        1. Fiona , thank you for that information! Yet another avenue to explore. I will be checking their website, Mike H.

        2. Hi Fiona!
          I’m also wondering more and more if it’s human-focused-attention that might be contributing to this (although I’m torn between this theory and my geo-changes-based cern one.). If random number generators produce more ‘structured’ data in response to focused attention (as they do, according to the Global Consciousness Project, the old Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research lab and Dean Radin’s work), and if everything is information (which is what physicists tell us) then what if we’re disturbing the underlying information around us just by so many of us focusing our attention at once on one concept?

          What worries me is that we’re actually changing *random* info, unrelated to the concept we’re focused on. Analogy: in a simulation, we might be corrupting the code:
          so we all focus on the Princess Diana death & funeral event, RNGs go wild, but the coding of our reality also gets affected, some 1s turn to 0s, and that just happens to be in the bear-file. So all of sudden, it’s the stain bears and *always has been* to those in the simulation, ***except some of us remember the previous version – and I’m dying to know why and if it hints at a key to this puzzle***.

          So what happens if we accidentally make changes to the sun-file and our sun is different and not life-friendly? Or to oxygen-ratios in our air?
          If it’s caused by CERN-like stuff, we need to have that paused until we have this figured out so we don’t wake up in an ice-age, or on a planet with no nitrogen in the air. But if it’s caused by a billion people mesmerized by Gangnam Style, or the FIFA World Cup, focusing their attention on it, then that will be a harder issue to address, but I think we do need to figure this out and not assume it’s an overall harmless phenomenon.

          Although maybe the fact that some who remember Mandela also remember Jiffy and stein and others remember Mandela and Jiffy but not stein (as an example), suggests it’s more likely that different versions of reality are melding, rather than this reality itself changing.

          I’m hoping your site will draw a lot of people to share theories to we can perhaps come up with a way to find out more about the nature of this phenomenon and whether or not we should be concerned, and if we have any control over it.

          1. Vignette,

            The RNG concept is an interesting idea, but what if it isn’t so random? Now, I’m not a religious individual in even the most remote sense of the word, but in some extreme cases it seems that mass prayer is able to affect changes in the local vicinity. If enough people pray hard enough it seems that people can be miraculously cured, but what if it has to do with your idea of changing the timeline instead of an actual healing. It seems that it would be easier to rewrite history, so that it never happened instead of actually changing the current condition. Even some of the old pagan religions would use mass worship or focused rituals to affect reality.

            A perfect example would be if enough people thought hard enough and wished that Nelson Mandela was still alive and all of a sudden poof he’s alive again, but it was done by retroactivly changing history, so that he never died. Obviously some of these changes must be either random changes or are ripple effects caused by other changes. A lot of people seem to remember Mussolini looking different. What if he looks different because enough people wish that he hadn’t been born. Maybe this was brought about by cancelling his birth by preventing his mother and father from getting together, but this caused his father to marry some other woman resulting in him looking different, but being brought up the same. Maybe by some weird happenstance that we could never uncover, this caused a different individual to be working Ellis island the day that Stan Berenstain’s parents came to the US resulting in their name being recorded with an A instead of an E. Basically a change that enough people wanted to happen happened causing another change that had nothing to do with it. Now I have no idea when the Berenstain/stein family immigrated to the united states, or if they even came in through Ellis island, but I’m using that as an example to explain what I’m trying to say.

            Of course maybe it’s not a change in history that is being affected, but perhaps it is a mass slide instead.

            Thank you,


            1. Good points, Mat!

              And yes, there is evidence that prayer changes the past. One of the studies focused on remote, retroactive intercessory prayer. Summary: – Full paper: (I’ve been studying this for years, but in connection with ghost research. My theory was: If some spirits linger because they want to change something in the past, maybe we can help them with something like retroactive prayer, either to change the event that upset them, or change its impact on them. Anecdotally, we’ve had some positive results, but I need to make time for a broader study.)


              1. But Fiona,retroactive alteration is in direct confrontation with ME.That there is no confirmation of either phenomena,queers the pitch,but we have anecdotal evidence of precognition and it further queers the pitch.It is like triple salting a dud mine with:uranium,gold,oil.

                1. Vivek, you’re right. However, I’m not locked into one theory for ME, and have to consider all possibilities, including this one. I was researching the retroactive theory well before I developed the Mandela Effect theory, so — to me, anyway — the incongruities and possible redundancies aren’t as much of an issue. For me, it was somewhat of a contradiction from the start. Nevertheless, I see your point.

                  1. So we don’t know why the creation was created,or,how the ME works.But we ought to know what to do with our given lives,the twist that ME gives to the question is,not to consider life as ephemeral,the sense of lower entrotopy could be a primer for the truth of eternal nature of life.The saga of St. Comte de Germain,might be a classical example of wilful universe hopper,a Peter Pan who visits universes where entropy is neutral or even slightly negative.

                    1. Vivek, I agree with you on an earlier comment and this one …
                      … We should be looking for consequences, implications and reasons to know what to do with our given lives, (how ‘eternal’ are we?), rather than who or what did what and how … What I have discovered for me is to do everything that comes up. That’s not totally accurate and I’m having trouble articulating this without going off on a long paragraph … I guess the best way to describe what I’m trying to say is that I have recently noticed, in my life, that there have been many synchronicities leading to either desires or what I thought was a desire or an old forgotten desire, whether good or bad (seems there’s a reason or lesson), and sometimes many different events take place before the supposed desire is realized. (take good calculated risks/make wise choices – fear nothing – a true knowing that death is fiction < all these seem to belong here)
                      I also feel that the 'observation' of certain events is key, yet when it comes to quantum physics I resonate strongly with the concepts, like I know them innately, but analytically I'm … growing …

                2. Vivek-
                  Hmmm… you are a curious entity who knows much I think. This post, specifically the last sentence, has, equally with Mr. Stains post, been like a teeny tiny shard of bamboo which has embedded itself beneath the little finger nail of my meta brain and depending on activity and focus the intensity of its demand on my awareness shift between barely perceptible/easily ignored niggle to distracting irritation. Today it will not be ignored or even put on the back burner to stew some more.

                  The more I ponder, the curioser & curiouser it becomes…These are all elements over which wars have been/are perpetually being waged on a variety of levels from actual literal combat between two adversaries or by proxy with a variety of fetishized red herring constructs.

                  uranium- depleted? gold- currency? monoatomic? genetic material? oil- fossil fuel? sentient/black goo?

                  Let me say off the bat that I am not encouraging the pursuit of tangental, discrediting chimeric bunny tales down dead end irrelevant rabbit holes which foster fear confusion and distraction from constructive avenues. If you are so inclined & see it as productive activity relevant to the exploration at hand, I would ask you to consider these musings & hypothesis and give you thoughts

                  I have long had a suspicion that there is a real, tangible but very occulted relationship amongst many seemingly disparate political world events, enigmatic phenomena – world events that are hushed up, go un or under reported, from which we are discouraged in various ways from pursuing, from which we are deliberately distracted by divisive propaganda and go publicly unresolved until we forget and which remain unresolved mysteries or are deliberately left dangling as fodder for the easily dismissed “conspiracy theorists” muddying the waters even more and discouraging any true investigative efforts… I suspect what ever connects them – some overarching thing or theme- would bring into focus a sharper, higher resolution Big Picture which would come into focus. The establishment of such a body of information integrated by a common thread to connect the dots with evidence and documentation, not conspiratorial theory or coincidental causality , woven from fibers of common origination and purpose would be the stuff to unify us and would make sense of and explain a great many inexplicable phenomena and events in this reality especially including the why, who and how of the Mandela effect.

                  And ok, here’s where I get really optimistic and Romantic in my musings… going a step further, in addition to resolving ME and related experiences, I’d think the discovery of the obfuscated intersecting points and multidimensional vectors to be possibly the key to solving the mystery and purpose of the Matrix and its glitches, and the foundation of cultivating our transcendence of it.

                  The dots which I have been drawn to want to connect by strong persistent Intuitive sense and which I think are significant Re. Time related phenomena and also connect to the topic of your comment that this is responding to- “salting the dud mine with uranium, gold & oil” are:

                  Antarctica including specifically: pre – post WWII German presence esp Nazi/Hitler & reported anomalous and strange findings/ experiences/events, Ditto for Admiral Byrd, subsequent Treaty of 1959 strictly regulating activity in and around the continent and its nearby Islands…

                  Project Paper Clip, The Montauk & Philadelphia experiments

                  The Falkland Islands, pre-Falkland War activity of Argentinian Research scientists at the base on Thule Island, The underlying reason for the war, the destruction of the scientific/”mineral” research base by Great Britain after they had already “won” the war

                  The activities of Marconi Telecom/engineering company and its subsequent incarnations esp. their presence in the Falklands post War and the 25 “mysterious” (some quite bizarre and hideous)deaths of those who worked there at the time between 1982-88, their connection to the WTC & events of 9/11- They were occupants in one of the towers at the time

                  What is the real treasure in the Middle east, Probably specifically located in Iran? I suspect it is something other than Fossil fuel oil and if correct, whatever it is would shed light on the real impetus for the long and constant history of foreign interference, occupation and destabilization, disunity and war in the middle east. Again, I am suspect of the rarely explicit stated, implied and assumed interest of oil- the fossil fuel kind- Following that line of thinking, I suspect it to be a plausible cover story or at least a convenient colateral interest which is big enough to cover any loose ends indicative another story- one of great value and sensitivity to require complex machinations to protect .

                  The whole US- Iran nuclear non proliferation deal and the contoversy surrounding it – closly monitored and strictly schedule reduction to zero the creation, and possession of depleted Uranium – a country of seemingly questionable leadership but who in recent history has threatened no one, has not imperialized, occupied, ghettoized, waged war on any state or its ethnic culture but still agreed to submit to extraordinary foreign policing controls even while neighboring countries engaging in such activities receive no censure, but whom rankled at the US-Iranian agreement – leads me to wonder what lies beneath…

                  Earth’s Harmonic Resonance, Ley Lines, Fracking, Gulf of Mexico, Deep Water Horizon underwater activity and findings, Deep Water Horizon Oil Spill in the Gulf, multi-national ambivalent military activity in the gulf following the oil spill , The liquid black crystal/black oil schist in Paraguay, and Bush family purchase of land and villa near the location of the oil schist, A.I. and quantum computers, Iran its gold, China & its gold, the slow destruction of Japan, the lack of any noise from North Korea, Pakistan and India, central and South America…

                  Does any of this compute? Or am I just fantastically delirious from sitting in frot of the computer for too many hours? Because as I look at the current time… wow, did I unwittingly stumble into a innocuously well disguised worm hole which apparently I have been surfing for far more hours than seemed to have passed since I first sat down to catch up on things and begin to compose thoughts which have been gestating for months… Time to go baked cookies!

                  1. Great musings, but lots of topics that are clearly in “conspiracy” territory, volatile political history, and a few other areas we avoid here, so everyone plays together well.

                    That said, yes, Vivek is an absolute gem and he tends to understate his points, perhaps to see which of us pick up on them.

                    1. I get what you are saying and try to stick to known facts , those with documentations regardless of obscurity and in the face of controversial claims use the journalistic “safe” but not “spineless” criteria of having the corroboration of at least 3 independent sources.
                      I can sense your unease with issues which have potentially may be abrasive to well intentioned supporters, or garner negative/discrediting/undermining attention which then could jeopardize the integrity of your research and the community of support and shared ideas, grown person by person, here and I do appreciate, understand and respect that. [Edited]… unfortunately PC has perverted the term/concept of “conspiracy”, and regardless of any grounding evidentiary supported conferring status as “historical fact” , it is the easiest, and laziest way to silence that which threatens the appearance of a cohesive veneer of consensus reality… [Edited] Perhaps the time is not now for actively seeking to initiate the abrasion necessary for growth which involves enduring sometimes volatile and painful stages of the metamorphic process and …Perhaps I should trust your experience and wisdom to guide when it is.

                      Yeah, I am definately a fire sign….sigh.

                      Ok thank you for listening and feel free to either publish or keep private.

                    2. Fiona, Leslie has touched upon various topics and I honestly have no clues to most of them,but what I know for fact is that ethnic Iranians,the zoroastrians,since the times when Iran was known as Persia,are a class par excellence.Along with south indians these migrated persians are responsible for the might of military technology as well as software advancement of India.The soft spoken persians have certainly given a punch to strategic India and they could well be responsible for the emerging might of Iran.

                    3. Vivek, this comment takes us deeply into topics that could be volatile, so this will need to be the last word on them. (Further comments on these topics won’t be approved.) However, I agree with both you and Leslie that certain regions stand out and evoke an awe that’s difficult to explain in terms most would deem rational. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that treasure (or treasures) will emerge, perhaps in this century, that rock the world in terms of history as we’ve known it. It remains to be seen whether that will add a piece to the Mandela Effect puzzle.

            2. Hi Matt,
              What a great insight! It reminded me of studies done by Helmut Schmidt in the 60’s-80’s. He worked for Boeing Labs, but got interested in effects of human intent on random-number generators, and the like.
              He did multiple studies where he would record the outcome of the RNG’s and have them translated to either clicks or green/red light-activation. Then he’d have this recorded. For example, the machine would generate clicks/no clicks and this would be run and recorded with no observer present. A few weeks later, he’d have subjects listen to the tapes (not knowing they were tapes, but instead believing the clicks were being generated in the moment) and focus on causing more clicks. Shockingly, he actually found that as long as no one listened to the tapes between the time they were made and the moment the subjects listened to them, the subjects had statistically significant results! Effectively, they were changing the ratio of clicks to no-clicks that had been generated and recorded weeks in the past!

              This very much supports your theory!
              Here are links to 3 of his studies. He also did one with baby chicks, where he showed them having an effect on an RNG. The chicks were in a lightless room. In the next room he placed a ‘robot-type thing’ that moved according to RNG input (so random turns and movement around the room). Window in between. When he put a light on top of the robot, it spent significantly more time in front of the window, providing light for the baby chicks. When the light was turned off, the movement around the room went back to being random. Suggesting there’s something inherent in the desires of living creatures, life itself, that seems to affect random events.


      2. Thank you Mike! I know some people are saying that since this phenomenon may have occurred throughout history, it can’t be related to CERN-like tech, but I think it’s possible technology could easily exacerbate an existing problem or weakness or what-have-you, leading to this sudden amplification or increased frequency of anomalous events/memories.

  28. I don’t normally post on any site but felt like I should on this one. Yes I have noticed this effect for most of my life (over 56 years) in so many places and changes its hard to decide on a “short list” of changes. A lot of markers “Sada” listed I have as well though the one that I have not seen listed that haunts me is the memory that the Cuban missile crises ended far differently with a exchange of atomic weapons.
    One thing I have noticed over the years is the rate of “changes” has been increasing to where it seems to be almost a daily event.

    1. I agree wih your last paragraph 100%. I have noticed these “changes” over the last 30+ years, but ( for me) they are happening way more frequently. Since 2009 I have noticed a huge uptick in them, and just a ridiculous amount of synchronicity. Things that are almost impossible to mathematically just happen on their own. And as you said “daily”. Mike H.

    2. Daily, yes. It definitely seems like a daily event now. Yesterday it was a beautiful day in “THIS”(THE) neighborhood, and today it’s now the Forrest Gump “Life was like a box of chocolates”(IS).

      And these both ring true for me. I mean, the way everybody remembers them… now how they are now.

  29. Vignette, India has taken a giant leap beyond chandrayaan,now it’s mangalyaan,the mars orbiter.But what Canada has achieved is the biggest thing,as big as Cern,the D-wave quantum computer,and nobody has forgotten the,black berry.Canada should have some mystery of its own, i suggest take on lake erie as your next target of study,i am already on to it.

  30. I so greatly appreciate this site. Also, particularly this area of it dealing with possible explanations. It seems we are long past the point of denying that some of us are experiencing diffrent realities. This site has been able to pinpoint events some grand, some obscure, that illustrate that some have memories of a diffrent reality. I for one share memories of some the more obscure events. David Soul committed suicide shortly after the original run of “Startsky and Hutch” in my reality .Brian Dennehy died of a heart attack in the mid 90’s. Nancy Reagan followed her husband to the grave about a year after he passed. In somewhat of a strange note I have been surprised no less than 3 times, finding her still alive. Maybe strangest of all I can no longer say with any confidence where New Zealand is in relation to Australia. I knew it to be to the north of Oz sort of where New Guinea is currenty located. Now I just no longer have a handle on its location. I only discovered this site 2 days ago, my brother mentioned the phenomenon a couple of days ago in passing.
    Now the fact that Eli Whitney is not a former slave that invented the cotton gin for practibilty while working the fields , does make me question everything.

  31. Talking about CERN, I did read something strange today!

    I read that CERN invented the World Wide Web. Check out

    It may be a Mandela Effect as I’d always thought the World Wide Web was invented by various Universities creating their own wider local area network and then the Military taking it over.

    I only heard of CERN through the Hadron Collider Experiments. I’d be interested what other people’s memories are of the creating of the Web.

    1. Ricardo, very nice research! This kind of opens up a lot of questions for me. I have to admit, personally I am a little disturbed (even , angry??) at myself for not connecting this earlier. In all the time I have studied CERN , I somehow never heard of this. I have, and will always say, the internet is one mass propaganda tool (like all media, to an extent) used to shape, and influence peoples opinions, for any number of reasons. Good, bad, or otherwise. I am not saying CERN, or the internet are the only causes of the ME, but I strongly suspect they are contributing to it. Mike H.

      1. Thanks Mike H,

        Yes I believe the reality we are currently in has people looking to the net for answers rather than trusting their own intuition and judgement , thankfully us and our fellow readers of this website are refusing to believe everything we hear and see and are questioning the universe we live in, hopefully the answers will come!

        The two strongest ME for me are still Interview with a Vampire and the location of Australia, it certainly didn’t have Papua New Guinea and Indonesia so close to it. I did feel disorientated for a few days while I adjusted !!

    2. Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web while working at/for CERN. The internet was invented by DARPA and enabled by TCP/IP protocols invented by Vint Cerf et al. A lot of people get the two confused because their first experience of the internet was in the 90s with the web but the internet pre-dates the WWW by over a decade and represents the logical and physical networks that provide connectivity. The WWW is an application of the technology.

      1. Alex (in the UK) wrote, “Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web while working at/for CERN.”

        This is false. CERN had nothing to do with the internet or the WWW until now, let alone inventing it.

        However, now we know that they’re not just innocently ramming particles together to see what happens, they are actively making themselves more powerful in the past.

        1. The only reason I’m approving this comment is to prevent others from posting similar comments I’ll simply delete.

          The first part of Pat’s comment is incorrect; in the current reality, Berners-Lee did invent the Web while at CERN. The second wanders too far into conspiracy theories and speculation without much support.

          “A graduate of Oxford University, Tim Berners-Lee invented the Web while at CERN, the European Particle Physics Laboratory, in 1989.” (ref. )

          Also, I won’t say that Alex (in the UK) is infallible, but his research tends to be excellent. So, the opening line of Pat’s comment was a huge red flag from the start.

      2. Ricardo,

        Although I don’t recall sufficient details with the clarity of Alex (in the UK)’s research, my memory is broadly inline with it. As I recall (arguably fallibly), the internet did come about due to DARPA, and the web as an extension thereof.

        I don’t recall CERN being involved at all, which I would have had a reasonable likelihood of knowing due to my interests, but certainly might well have missed.

  32. There is one theory of Reincarnation that states that instead of being reborn into a new body, we return to the moment of our birth. If this is true then it follows that:

    1) Our timeline would remain mostly the same, but major changes would be possible.

    2) Memories of our timeline would be on the edges of our memory, so recent changes would seem profoundly *wrong*, because we’ve lived countless versions of our lives where the timeline worked one way.

    1. Can this mean that there may be a major event or catastrophe that ended with most of the population dying. then instead of being reborn, return to our time of birth for us to find this 2nd time around a little off from what we collectively remember? Is it possible that this event will be in our lifetime since we have since see a sort of increasing ME experience. Also does it follow that those who don’t feel anything weird happening be proof that they no longer need to be reborn?

      1. Interesting Bradley
        I’ve counted 5 possible deaths for me since 2011 and one in the early 80s that I still can’t believe I was able to steer away from two 16 wheelers, that I was in between, on a highway while my car lifted up on two side wheels in a downpour. I’m still shaking from that, lol.

  33. I just found a Scientific American article from 2008 describing a study done that showed that a cellphone in ‘transmission-mode’ significantly boosts alpha-waves (referred to as “Gateway to the Subconscious Mind in the study itself) in the user’s brain. The article goes on to explain that alpha-waves are related to the shifting of consciousness of the external world to internal thoughts and daydreams, and they’re also related to sleep. (relevant quotes below, with article link).

    So I wonder if, in the 7 years since the study was done, someone’s figured out how to use this info to induce effects that would explain the ME. If our mind was put into a state similar to dreaming/hallucination/daydreams, we’d have no real way of recognizing this for ourselves.

    We could be slipping from reality to living in a constant state of semi-dreaming/semi-imagination/semi-hallucination without knowing it!

    “when the cell phone was transmitting, the power of a characteristic brain-wave pattern called alpha waves in the person’s brain was boosted significantly. The increased alpha wave activity was greatest in brain tissue directly beneath to the cell phone, strengthening the case that the phone was responsible for the observed effect.”
    “… the alpha wave is really regulating the shift of attention between external and internal inputs. Alpha waves increase in power when a person shifts his or her consciousness of the external world to internal thoughts; they also are the key brainwave signatures of sleep.”
    The article:
    The study:

      1. Now this is something! This is what a few of us were talking about above. The use of technology (cellphones ,WIFI , ect.) to influence peoples thoughts, memories, actions. As anonymous says its been 7 years since the study. Think back to when smart phones started really becoming popular, same time frame. I have said it numerous times on the site, that a very defining time for me was late fall 2009. I started noticing more and more of these ME’s. I have noticed them since 1985, but 2009 until now it has exponentially picked up. Anyone want to guess when I got my first smart phone??? That’s right, late 2009. I am not saying they are the whole cause of whatever “this” is that we are all experiencing, but I cant help but think its speeding it up or contributing to it. Again EXCELLENT post Anon, I hope you stick around. Mike H.

  34. There’s a patent (from 1974) for ‘Silent Sound” wherein a hypnotist makes suggestions/commands, and these are recorded and combined with a tone at the high end of the hearing range. The recordings are coupled and modulated and transformed to micro-wave pulses wherein the voice is rendered inaudible, but it is still processed sub-consciously by the brain when exposed to the signal. Exposure can be done by broadcast means, TV, radio, etc. Silent Sound, US Patent 5159703: affecting mood, thoughts and behavior.
    US Patent 5356368 (1992) – Frequency Following Response: Method of and Apparatus for Inducing Desired States of Consciousness with Silent Sound, US Patent 5159703.
    Frequency Following Response, or FFR, is used to take pre-recorded brainwaves of specific levels of consciousness and transmit them into the brain of an unsuspecting human via microwave transmission.
    This is a patent for “a silent communications system in which nonaural [silent] carriers, in the very low or very high audio frequency range or in the adjacent ultrasonic frequency spectrum, are amplitude- or frequency-modulated with the desired intelligence and propagated acoustically or vibrationally, for inducement into the brain, typically through the use of loudspeakers, earphones or piezoelectric
    transducers [this would be applicable to inducement through cellphone signals embedded in the received signal when it is processed at the cell-tower for transmission to your phone – meaning you would only be aware of your friend’s voice speaking, but you would be receiving the embedded signal and your brain would be processing it]. The modulated carriers may be transmitted directly in real time or may be conveniently recorded and stored on mechanical, magnetic or optical media for delayed or repeated transmission to the listener.

    With this it would be quite simple to induce alpha-wave states, where consciousness shifts from the external world to internal thoughts. Which I interpret as meaning one would go from experiencing the real world in a normal or alert state of mind, to suddenly experiencing a state of daydreaming where hallucinations and dreams would be experienced, without an awareness of the shift in the state or focus of awareness (external reality versus inner imagination). You wouldn’t even need that much high-tech equipment or knowledge to do this, if you wanted to target a specific individual, rather than a group, because the signal doesn’t *have* to be embedded in a broadcast(ex. phone-signal, tv, etc). Using sound
    frequencies that are inaudible to the human ear, and transmitting a brainwave-state or consciousness state, rather than a message, you could simply aim your signal-transmitter/speakers, etc, directly at the person, inducing the desired consciousness state. This method allows for emotion and behavior modification (active to passive) as well.
    This patent was submitted in 1994. Let’s think about how far technology has advanced, how much neuropsychology has developed, how much signal-processing has advanced, how much research has undoubtedly been done in the interim to further develop these technologies and their applications!

    Are we test subjects in a related experiment? I could imagine a research assistant tasked with developing neutral experiences to be transmitted/embedded, having to generate a list of 50 test-items, being up at 4am the night before his report is due to the supervisor and adding silly things like Berenstein/Berenstain to the list, as he runs out of ideas.

    But then I wonder who is in the control group and who is hallucinating? Are we being made to *see* BerenstAin, even though it still says BerenstEin? Or, were we made to experience a memory of Berenstein, which our brain proceeded to confabulate into intricately detailed associations and impressions, while in reality it’s always been stAin?
    Judging by the personality characteristics of the stainers versus the steiners, I suspect stAin is the illusion.
    But if it is an experiment, who’s evaluating the results? It doesn’t seem to make sense, unless the goal is to slowly shift what is perceived as reality (while actual reality stays the same), adding incremental changes that seem, at first to be more trivial and once those are accepted and whatever controversy dies down, more and more changes are made, which the majority of people passively go along with it and those that are on this website give up on finding a solution and accept the changes until the point is reached at which the simulated reality doesn’t have to map onto actual reality at all, and humans can be manipulated at will to suit whatever purposes are desired by those in charge of creating the illusion.

    Here’s a website where the patents are discussed:

    1. I don’t even know where to begin. This is some important information—-great work! Its a lot to process, but your hypothesis makes as much sense as anything else. I have always been an open minded person, but a skeptic also (is that even possible??LOL), I want proof or reasons of why these things are/have been happening. I have been noticing them for so long, I am to a point where I just want to know why???? Why do some of us notice? All the posters ended up here for the same reason——we noticed.

      On a side note. In the U.S. the FCC mandated that in July of 2009 all TV stations were required to broadcast digital signals. Required. No more analog signals. All stations that couldn’t afford the switch were shut down and licenses suspended, or not reissued. I know other countries around the world have been doing the same, some before the U.S., and some after. I really have a hard time believing that this was all done for the benefit of the “consumer”. Some of the reasons given were to free up more frequency allocations for , you guessed it, cell phone towers. Take a look around anymore at how many types of RF signals we are being hit with on a daily basis. Wifi, microwave, digital devices ect. ect. My usual disclaimer applies here, I am not saying these are the cause, but I think somehow, or someway technology is playing a part in this phenomena.

      Fiona I know you are swamped (LOL, understatement !). I was thinking I wonder how the “when did it start for you” survey would line up with when the posters started using smart phones (ipod, Ipads—-more wifi in general). Just a thought. Mike H.

      1. Mike
        “Why do some of us notice? All the posters ended up here for the same reason——we noticed.
        On a side note. In the U.S. the FCC mandated that in July of 2009 all TV stations were required to broadcast digital signals. Required. No more analog signals.”

        The reasoning– I think of this in terms of virus. Take MRSA for instance which has built a resistance to being treated. Also, many adults do not know that they no longer are immune to catching the measles and the like; things that they were vaccinated for in childhood. Their immunity is below the threshold and instead of getting the 2 of 2 MMR shots they had back in the day they now need 3 of 3.

        The mandate of digital, much like the widespread use of cellphones, seems to be an attempt to control something that appears to be coming down the pipe (manifested in what we are now seeing in ME’s).Somewhat contrary to what anonymous stated- the cellphones can be seen as an attempt to hookup an influence or obtain information from the inner mind/soul/thought as a defense. However, like you are saying….some of us are noticing.

        1. Daniel,
          The virus analogy is a very good one. If we assume it’s something like that, then I can’t help but wonder WHY do some of us notice? Breaking it down in VERY basic groups. I notice people that are completely oblivious to everything, they question nothing (all age groups). You know “I saw it on T.V.”, or “it was on the internet” , that’s group A. Group B, would be people who notice, but just shrug things off as bad memories, rumors , ect. Many of us were probably in this group at one time. Then their is us , group ME, we notice so much that it drove us to seek answers.

          Like I said , very basic breakdown. BUT what I have noticed with the advent of all the digital devices, signals ect. Group A is far and away the largest. I am sure you (and many on here) have noticed, but next time you are the store, public event, or just out and about—–take a look at how many people have their heads down buried in a phone. Its actually kind of creepy.

          And before anyone thinks I am some type of luddite, I am not ,I have an iphone, ipod, ipad, home computer, the wife more or less has the same. Anyway, not sure where the heck I was going with this LOL. But you bring up some good points. Mike H.

    2. By the way Anonymous, your last paragraph is brilliant! Your bringing a lot to the discussion, you have my attention with your last couple of posts. Mike H.

    3. “Judging by the personality characteristics of the stainers versus the steiners, I suspect stAin is the illusion.”

      (Taking reference materials into account such as the Bible, Upanishads, and the like:)
      What if STAIN is actually the reality and not the illusion? Like we have been duped into believing the “illusions” since being conceived in the womb? The anatomy of the embryo and its allantois and the hypophyseal portal tract hint at various questionable references that a cynic may suggest lends credibility.
      If the great creator has given man free will or ability to change one’s mind, could looking at the past change the present and frame the future. I think poster JT has placed a number of comments that if one is not paying attention it will go over one’s head. He/she seems to know more than they let on in a roundabout way. I say take what you can and leave the rest. Even in lie there is truth, have to discover what that is.

  35. I’ve started a new post on Reddit, about alpha-wave induction.
    Here are some comments I’ve made that come from there (and a proposal for a test of the theory!)
    IF the alpha-wave induction theory were correct:
    The hallucination is not the mandela-effect item, the hallucination is what we are currently perceiving as an external reality. So the books still say Berenstein in the current external reality. But we’ve been given a post-hypnotic suggestion to read the “e” in this word as an “a” in the image of the book-logo/title. Try as we might, our brain will continue to process the “e” as an “a”. (The photoshopped images were easily identified because the cursive of the “t” linking to the “e” wasn’t matching up properly – it didn’t match the original “image” of the word. I’d guess this discrepancy could be enough for the brain not to match it up to the hypnotic-suggestion-image the brain is processing as Berenstain, which is why we can see the photoshopped images as *stein*. For such a signal not to end up having messy effects where ALL “e”s are seen as “a”, you’d need a very particular image-pattern for replacement. But the FFR patent does mention targeting the visual cortex for command/suggestion-transmission, which suggests they can send visual info to be re-processed by the brain however they command it to.)

    Whether you’re the type of brain that will take the new, perceived reality and readjust the memories to be inline with the perceived (illusory) external world in order to reduce cognitive dissonance, or whether you’re the type of brain that will allow the cognitive dissonance and keep the old memories intact, will determine whether you experience the ME effect or not. Differences in tolerance for cognitive dissonance and means of reducing it (including through the fabrication of fictional reasons & thoughts that one experiences as authentic and true) have been studied for years by social psychologists. (youtube-search split-brain confabulation or severed corpus callosum and try to find a video where they ask the person *why* they’ve drawn something different from what they *say* they’ve seen. The person starts coming up with all kinds of reasons associated to preferences, memories, etc, but in fact it was because each eye was shown a different image.)

    Since there are reports of the ME from English-speakers in other countries, I’d believe this is something being done over larger populations than just North Americans. If one could find a corner of a remote location that hasn’t had the signal transmitted over that area (and by the way, the transmission could be done with speakers tucked onto google-cars blasting out the inaudible signal), then the people there, presented with a B-Bear book, should see it spelled with an “E”. They could tell you they see it with an “E”, but you’ll still see the “A”.

    I do wonder if there would be a cumulative effect. If different people would have different thresholds for accepting the suggestion, causing different people to experience the change at different times, rather than everyone experiencing it at once.

    Maybe that would be one way of testing this out. If we figure out how to separate people with high-suggestibility from low-suggestibility, then sort people with high or low exposure to media & cellphones & towers, and then see if highly-suggestible people with high exposure to media who live in closer proximity to broadcasting/cellphone towers experienced the “change” from “e” to “a”, or “Jiffy” to “JIF”, etc, earlier, that could provide some support for this theory. How to organize such a test though…. I don’t know.

    Here’s my reddit post:

    1. Anonymous , great post, please keep them coming. You are saying things ( much more concise and articulate , then I ever could) I have been wondering about for quite a while. These all makes sense to me. Not to say it’s the only thing , but certainly a factor.

      You know the low-high suggestibility in a way could be a test. I mean think about this, a lot of us who would seem to notice all end up on the same sites. So if who or whatever were conducting a test, they would know immediately who we were. And they could also adjust whatever needed to be adjusted. I know that’s way out in tinfoil land, but still just a thought.

      I don’t normally follow the reddit forum quite frankly because there is a lot of just outright trolling on there. BUT, due to the massive uptick in interest of the ME, I started following it and several others two weeks ago, just to see what people were posting. I knew right away that post was from you, keep up the great work. Mike H.

      1. Mike H. & Fiona: thanks for the encouragement and for being interested & engaged! I feel better knowing I’ve shared this info, people have seen it and so even if it’s not the ultimate cause of the ME, at least we’re becoming more aware of how preciously we should guard our sense of self. Or something along those lines, maybe. 🙂

        But Mike, I also do worry about self-identifying as resistant to accepting the facts of this reality as replacements for my own memories and experiences, in case someone is monitoring for this. But I think I’m so obviously harmless and non-influential that I wouldn’t be top of the list-of-concerns for those involved in scary projects. Also, I think it’s important enough that people start discussing these things that some boldness is required.

        Fiona: I’m starting to hope you’re deleting the emails-addresses associated with these comments…

        1. Anonymous,

          Those are some good comments, and I hope we’re regarded as relatively harmless with our amusing speculations. Giving equal weight to everything we say would be a mistake.

          Personally, I like to think of myself as a Bertie Wooster type, blathering flippantly (and, at times, attempting wit) but occasionally saying something unintentionally brilliant, or at least worthwhile. “Occasionally” and “unintentionally” being key words in that description.

          Regarding email addresses, at least half the people who comment here are clearly using fake emails. A small percent are using Hushmail. The rest use their real emails, figuring privacy is history at this point. And, the fact is, if this site is monitored — and it might be — the combination of IP number and time (both virtually stamped at the time of comment) are enough that a dedicated NSA-type person could probably track who’s saying what… here, or anywhere online. I can’t do much about those.

          My general attitude is the same now as it was in 1995: Don’t say anything online that you wouldn’t want seen on the front page of your hometown newspaper, with your real name associated with it. A high level of anonymity can be achieved, but it usually requires considerable effort and a collaborative smokescreen.

          But, I have serious doubts that there’s any merit to deleting email addresses. There may be a WP plugin that does that, and I could look into it. However, from a privacy point of view… well, I think Eric Arthur Blair’s vision wasn’t idle speculation, and privacy — even before hitting the “Reply” button on comments — is illusory.


          1. Fiona, Speaking of Arthurs,whatever i know about Irish i have learned from 3 Arthurs, Arthur.c.doyle, Arthur.l.jones and Arthur.h.ward,all of them contemporary mystery authors.Irish have a glib tongue,ready wit and hot temper,disregard for safe and easy life.Birdy Edwards(valley of fear)never feared death,or Jack London or Aimee Semple or John o’ hara or many others.Keeping your identity secret is the height of naivette,what with all the top 5 software corporates belonging to a singular entity,not that i am deluded enough to presume that the participants of ME are under keen observation.

            1. Vivek, this is off-topic but a fair addition to the brief discussion of the anonymity of ME discussions. I don’t think we’re enough of a blip on the radar to warrant intense scrutiny by the corporatocracy, but if we inadvertently strike a nerve or stumble onto something highly confidential, that could change.

  36. Hi Fiona, this may not be ME related, but I’d still really like your input. For as long as I can remember, I’ve had a strong emotional reaction to things from the 1930’s and 1940’s. Movies, photos, video, books, music, etc. all make me terribly sad. Maybe it’s more of a homesick feeling, because I can’t help being drawn to these things. And it’s like I’m remembering something, but seeing it for the first time, all at once. I just zone out and this sadness comes over me. I sometimes wonder if the ‘real’ me is there in the past, and this reality is some kind of simulation.

    Is there anything in your paranormal studies that would explain these feelings? I wonder if others who experience ME have any similar experiences.

    1. Michelle,

      Thanks for asking! The most likely ME-type explanation is if you’d had sad experiences in a reality where it’s the 1930s or 40s.

      In the most likely quantum context, these are some possible explanations:

      1) You visited a parallel reality that’s not running time the same as we do, here. Perhaps they’re 70+ years behind us, and you visited that reality (one or more times) and had sad experiences, or perhaps you really loved that reality (and time period) so reminders of it trigger sadness.

      2) You visited a parallel reality that kept the 1930s and 40s aesthetics and lifestyle, and had a strong connection with it. (Easiest way to think of this: If modern created Steampunk worlds were real, and — instead of making widespread stylistic changes, in this reality — we held onto brass, Victorian manners and dress, developed more high-tech hot air balloons and dirigibles instead of airplanes, etc.)

      In terms of how, when, and how often you got there, I still default to this being a holodeck, or — as an alternative — you slide into that reality in what looks like dreaming in this reality. (The latter refers to things Dr. Fred Alan Wolf has said about quantum travel in dreams.)

      Other than that, spirituality offers many explanations, from past lives (and reincarnation), to observing from the pre-mortal state before coming here in physical form, to having a resonance with an ancestor that lived in that era (perhaps a genetic memory), to… well, I’m sure the Internet offers many other explanations.

      If it were me, personally…? My first guess would be a ME-type visit (or many of them) to that time. My second guess would be a “past lives” experience, but the two concepts aren’t mutually exclusive.

      I have no doubt that parallel realities exist, whether or not they explain the Mandela Effect. I also have no doubt that many (most?) people have some kind of resonance with selected eras from the past, which could suggest past lives in those times.

      At this point — like the rest of my paranormal research — it’s all speculation. And, I hope that it’s fun. (It is, for me.)

      I’m 100% certain that others who’ve experienced ME also share similar recognition, resonance, or an emotional connection to reminders of eras from before they were born.


    2. Michelle, There is an explanation in occult science,you may be possessing some artefact or other object that had some passionate connection with that era.There is a short story,’The leather funnel’ by Sir Arthur conan doyle in the collection,’The tales of terror and mystery’,the story is the second one,it should give you some very good insights.Book is available for free in ‘Project Gutenberg’,infact all A.C.Doyle books are free.

      1. Vivek, that’s a very good point. When I shop at thrift shops, flea markets, etc., I sometimes pick up an attractive object and quickly put it back; the “energy” on it feels wrong to me. I believe that has nothing to do with my personal history, and far more with the object itself. Traditional, occult, and New Age beliefs, as well as some theoretical physicists, have speculated about the transfer of minute amounts of matter or energy to objects.

    3. Michelle your posting reminded me of the thoughts I had regarding “Tank _ _ _”. It is as if the past, present, and future are all combined and we have the ability of experiencing them as one. When I felt, experienced, and possibly helped to create a surge in the “shifts” occurring in previous months I noticed that it became difficult for me to pinpoint the day or hour. It all seemed to merge for me and at one point it was as if I experienced an entire month within a week. It was like the news was behind. It did not take long for me to see that I needed to start to keep a journal.
      Perhaps those who knew of Tank BOY are confused when others speak of Tank MAN because the “boy” died long ago. However, he could perhaps be the same person/representation. Moving from a boy to a man somehow encourages continuity and provides a resolution for an event that brought about ill feelings, possible stress, anxiety and the like. The “external view” (hologram, illusion, etc.) seems to indicate that what we are experiencing in the form of ” ME’s” another perspective/level/dimension/time etc. that perhaps we are given the will to participate in and change. (Sounds familiar)

  37. My reality. The us has 52 states. 48 mainland, Hawaii and Alaska added made 50. Puerto Rico and Guam made 52. Canada has 4 provinces. The tanks in the square ran over all the protestors. Watched the video in history class. Sex in the city , sex and the city, depending on where I am. Phoenix lights, 2000, 2001. E not A. Taps started out as Ghost hunters, and is now TAPS. Interview with a vampire. Jupiter Rising. Christmas on 24th or 25th. Eli Whitney was black. Charteuse is red. Fruit Loops. Talladega is in Florida. The sun used to be small and yellow and dull. Now bigger/brighter/whiter. Mars does Not have moons. Several others. Shultz. . Scary- I remember an apple being teleported in 2007ish as well. Looked it up when the new story came out about teleporting light (anything) for the first time. Gone too.

    I grew up in northern VA. But I’ve lived/travelled all over mainland US. I have crazy dreams sometimes. Sometimes I have dreams of darkness. And everything I see appears pixelated (Visual snow/but colored). I also have floaters. Now. I was born 1991. I was born dead, (as they pronounced me dead due to cord issues, I came back on my own). I’ve Nearly died several times. Every time, the memory sort of fades instantly, and my life seems weird. I’ve had dreams of other deaths, and they always end with me being awake back in *this * life, in a random spot in the next day, Instead of waking up in bed. I’ve had several objects disappear. Not get lost, or misplaced, but just vanish. Like my Charlie Brown sheet with Schultzs name on it.

    I’m on a hazmat response team, and our meetings shift dates randomly. 3rd week, to 4th week, to 2nd. this has happened at least 4 times. and everyone never remembers the previous dates.

    So my explanation, like I’ve seen somewhere on this site basically stated the same, is that, as we die, we continue on into our next self/next reality, and that as we’re presented with a choice that can be life or death, and choose wrong, we’re shot into the next reality, where that choice, the build up to it, or the fall out from it, has to differ so that we can live, even though its still our character playing the game, and we retain parts of information from the previous life. and that, as reality is infinite, we constantly merge, destroy, create, new timelines with the ones closest to us, and parts of us get left behind in the *upgrade* .


    1. Liking the concept I see scary element. If what you say is the way reality work would one contemplate suicide as a ‘move on’ mechanism or as death would be deliberate it would be an actual end. From the other side, if after death we move to next reality we are still alive in due to different choices made along – does this mean we are effectively immortal and at some point in time one will be alone, last breathing , centuries old remnant of one time so great human civilization…?

      1. Wojciech,

        I see significant flaws in every step of that argument, but — going way out on a limb — I suppose it’s possible. To me, it sounds like an interesting premise for a sci-fi novel, but highly impractical (and tragic) thinking for real life.

        First there’s the control issue; you’d be taking a chance on landing at your current age in a better or at least equally tolerable reality. With no known way to steer to a better reality at a point where you want to be, I’ll take my chances with the reality I’m in at the moment. It may not be perfect, but I know most of the rules and I’m aware of the practicality (or lack of it) for various options.

        Then there’s the theoretical issue, since many people suggest that there may be infinite realities. If the starting point is “infinite,” reducing that to just one could take a very long time. Centuries is probably a low figure.

        But mostly, the concept of the last one being a remnant of a once-so-great civilization is so pessimistic and dystopian, I can’t even think in those terms. My life keeps improving, as I learn lessons along the way. Now and then, it’s an “oops, two steps back” experience, but — in general — things get better and better, and I’m happy with that.


      2. What if it is exactly like how the Bible says it is where we were all born in sin. If sin is equivalent to the mathematical equation sine then there is a possibility of there being a cosine. The sine and cosine could illustrate waves/patterns each creating a full circle or loop on their own and together as one. If we are born into sin or sine( which is the possible illusion/iniquity/injustice then death is imminent in the form we have been viewing it. However, if one is not born in sin or sine there is the possibility of having access to both/memory where immortality may come into question.
        Def iniquities:

        1. gross injustice or wickedness.
        2. a violation of right or duty; wicked act; sin.

        Psalm 51:5
        הֵן־בְּעָוֹ֥ון חֹולָ֑לְתִּי וּ֝בְחֵ֗טְא יֶֽחֱמַ֥תְנִי אִמִּֽי׃
        Behold in iniquity I was shaped and in sin conceive did my mother.

        Has anyone else noticed the many personalities who seem to always have a doppleganger/lookalike for whatever timeframe/period in history we reference? Keep finding this to be strange.

  38. I am leaning heavily towards a time string theory as explained in back to the future or Steins; Gate. Its interesting that there is a concern for cell phones when there was a huge concern for bees dying en-mass due to cell phone waves. Now those population losses don’t seem to be mentioned either way. Also I wonder if anyone had considered that even though Cern might be causing the time slips that there could also be a mule like in Issac Asimov’s foundation series. An individual or group or even hobbies who could create the same effect. If you take this further then Mr.Stains ideas of markers could be a problem since independent operators might use different methods.

  39. I was wanting to reply to a post by Daniel from 8-15-15 (posted at 236am local time on that date). No way to reply, no reply tab for that post. I was going ask him how the first link he posted was less than 24 hours old. When his post was from two weeks ago. Can someone explain this too me????? The post was about random phone texts. I am a little confused by this. Thanks, Mike H.

    1. Do you have a screenshot of that link showing posted within the last 24 hours? Sometimes redit/reddit is glitchy all by itself. I ran into a couple of glitches here as well where the wording for 2 postings on 2separate occasions got my attention , which is probably what it was meant to do, For those kind of things I take lightly because I am unsure if it is a helpful or ill-intended entity causing it.
      But I went back and checked the links for that day and none where currently showing as posted 24hours ago. Then again, it looks like we are entering another shift.

      1. Daniel, scroll back in this thread to your post. On my computer there are 3 links. It’s the first one. It’s a thread where none of the posts , were more than 24 hours old. I don’t believe we can insert links into someone else’s post, can we?? Mike H.

        1. Mike H., you’re right. No one can insert links into someone else’s posts, except me… and I don’t do that. If I want to add a link to a thread, I do so in my own comment.

          1. No one except me can change a comment, either. What you see is what the person posted, unless I’ve noted it as edited, or — when I have time and a typo was clearly unintended — I might change one letter in one word.

        2. I see that link and was typing more before I stopped myself from pressing send. Erased what I wrote and can only tell you that at this point, perhaps I am a little befuddled as well.

    2. Are you talking about:
      [–]bollykat 10 points 22 hours ago
      This is actually a copy and past report from a reddit user by the name of bollykat. Hope that clears it.

      1. Thanks for the replies Daniel and Fiona, yes that’s the one I was referring too. So another poster copied that to your original post? Not that it’s a big deal, I’m just more confused LOL! Mike H.

        1. Sorry about that. I was just giving credit to the person who suggested the two links as I thought it was helpful. (I am so late in responding)

  40. I wish to start a thread where responses to the effect are discussed, catalogued and counselled.

    I feel that coming to grips with this phenomenon and how we respond to it is of vital importance to our understanding of the universe, and possibly a foundation of understanding and maintaining our core humanity within the universe we inhabit but rarely contemplate.

    How we respond to it could not only be important to the individual but also to collective of those who experience the phenomenon, and perhaps, humanity as a whole.

    For some, myself included, it is a deeply shocking and profound realisation – I’ve finally put on the sunglasses that Rowdy Roddy Piper gave me, and yes it can be a painful and complicated business.

    By the comments here a lot of others have been equally shook up, so the next question is … what now, how do we respond to this data and it’s possible implications ?

    Also, the responses to the effect could indicate the potential nature of the effect – is it a test ? is it a signal or warning ? is it a manifestation of something from us ? – this region of explanation is implicitly tied to how we react to identifying the memory anomalies.

  41. There seems to be three main strands to the effect … geographic memory, for want of a better term ‘dead celebrity’ memory ( I include tank boy and challenger explosion in this) and key phrases in pop culture.

    Personally only the key phrases in pop culture resonate with me, so take my comments from that framework and understand they are far from fully formed.

    Could this be a test ?

    A change is put out there to see if it will take.

    Perhaps they Initially appear banal and frivolous, the name of a TV show or book (though of course below the surface there is tremendous meaning and purpose in each change) so it isn’t really that ‘important’ or too big a deal and the fact a test is going on isn’t too noticeable or critical.

    Will the market buy this version of reality ? Has brand ‘stain’ wiped out the ‘stein’ competitor ? Can the rubes handle our next Altered Reality ProductTM ?
    (naturally I’m using metaphor to describe esoteric/inexplicable shenanigans)

  42. Apologies Fiona, wasn’t sure where to stick this one.

    I’ve been thinking about the specificity of the language changes of some of the ME’s and of their importance.

    I’ve yet to drill down on the specifics, I’m pretty sure Vivek and others have done tremendous work on this, but thinking about in general terms – language is important in this and that we (and by we, I mean I) should be more directed in it’s usage. (and I am the worst to think aboutt his – my grammar and communication skills are appalling)

    It is primarily for myself to get a handle on the effect and isn’t to be taken as a suggestion or otherwise, my intention isn’t to enroach on Fiona’s and others domain or nomenclature which of course they are free to express and use however they desire. Personally I feel the term ‘Mandela Effect’ to be at this stage becoming restrictive and not descriptive enough – it takes several steps to explain and to connected to a singular phenomenon, the word ‘effect’ denotes something causing a change – which this thing may or may not be.

    In my personal discussions (to myself lying awake at night and soon in torment to my pals) I feel the term ‘discordant remembrance phenomenon’ to be useful as a reference to the effect.

    I sense that the phenomenon we are experiencing is explicitly tied to ‘truth’ and that we (and I mean I ) should speak of it as truthfully as possible – and hopefully that will help in gaining a better understanding of it, and maybe have an influence on the phenomenon itself. Call a spade a spade and perhaps it will eventually stop calling itself a wheelbarrow, the poor deluded piece of garden equipment.

  43. J.T. ,
    You have just wrote three tremendous posts! Saying a lot of how I have been feeling ( speaking only for myself , of course). I will be reading , and re-reading these posts for quite sometime. Nicely done. Mike H.

  44. [Fiona’s note: The content of this sarcastic comment was deleted. Sorry, she’s back again, using various IP numbers to get around the IP blacklist software that usually blocks trolls. I’m trying to delete her comments as they show up, but she’s posting a lot of them. Now and then, one of them — such as this — might escape my notice, at least briefly. I apologize, and I’m trying to be more watchful for comments like hers, so they’re deleted before others see them.]

  45. I have been re-reading Brian Greene’s “the Hidden Reality”, and his section on, Simulated Universes , has always struck me as a bit creepy. He talks about an “artificial sentience”. It’s a very thought provoking chapter for me. I have always wondered if in some odd way the internet, may be evolving into this. Changing the way we think and see things, in essence controlling our thought process. Hopefully this isn’t incoherent rambling, LOL.

    I highly recommend this book to anyone interested in different types and possibilities of multi-verses. Parts are a little technical (which is why, I always have to read, and re-read some of it), but for what he is explaining, he breaks down really well, explaining a very difficult subject matter, in my opinion. It is my favorite book by him. Mike H.

    1. Artificial sentience? It’s funny you say that because I was just looking into google’s artificial intelligence quantum computer. The first two minutes of this video having to do with the Google AI talks about multiverse, quantum leaps and how two realities can exist simultaneously.

      1. Well Frexy, I don’t know if this is just more of one of those impossible synchronicities that seem to happen to me or what. But that is the exact video I happen to check out yesterday. Strange. Does it bother you as much as me?? Sentience that is? I don’t know how to describe, other than it just seems so “cold” or “grey”. It’s a really unnerving, dark feeling for me. I have really been looking into something along the lines of a “simulated universe”, or “holographic universe” for the cause of “this”, whatever “this” is. Like the “program” is correcting itself the best it can. Running out of memory so to speak. I find it impossible to communicate my thoughts on this topic sometimes, so I apologize, I hope it doesn’t sound like complete nonsense. Mike H.

        1. Hi, Mike H.,

          After a fashion, it might get somewhat murkier. This is only a conjecture on my part, mind you, but here’s my train of thought:

          The short version: in principle, quantum computing could permit an infinitude of simulations to be run simultaneously, and without necessarily running through them (instead arriving at a sort of sum-over path conclusion, though by what might feel like a short-cut, as with a spirit level — like reading the last page of a mystery, without first having read the story).

          The long version:

          If one posits quantum computing, and extrapolates arbitrarily far (along the lines of Moore’s law of doubling), then one might arguably asymptotically approach something indistinguishable from a Platonically ideal Banach–Tarski paradox (i.e.: an infinite expansion of the usual pair).

          Given a system that could map itself wholly, without loss of memory/FLOPS/etc. (assuming a coding sufficiently compact such that every point in Hilbert phase space were essentially bijective with a unique system state configuration), every possible evolution of the tensors could then be run within its own Banach–Tarski duplicate.

          Although each evolution of any given tensor necessarily spawns its own infinitude of fibers, the result is still that a manifold of simulations (now of tensors across state vectors, rather than of the original instantaneous configurations) could be represented by a manifold of single quantum states.

          (I have the odd feeling that this would end up requiring no time to perform as a calculation — but that’s really way out on a limb [as if I weren’t already so?].)

  46. I’m still trying to refine possible explanations and share them, hoping it will trigger something in someone with more knowledge or insight than I have, to help them come up with something ever closer to a testable, plausible explanation. So here goes:
    Similar to the way that particles don’t actually exist until they’re measured/detected, because prior to that the only thing that exists is a probability-waveform of finding them in a given location (see reference article below*), what if parallel universes, as predicted by physicists, didn’t actually exist as anything more than probability waveforms in the past. And what if experiments, such as the ones being conducted publicly at CERN to detect parallel universes are actually bringing into existence universes that were heretofore nothing but probabilities…

    And what if consciousness is not strongly coupled to the physical brain ( see morphic fields research, or micro-tubules and information entanglement research, or for the more spiritually inclined: see writings about the analogy of brain as radio, tuned to receive the signal that is conscious awareness. etc), and can therefore move around among these newly-existent parallel universes? This might lead to what we’re experiencing as the Mandela Effect, no?

    I suspect such research has been conducted by clandestine organizations prior to what is now being made public. Alternately, what if ours was a probabililty-universe and someone in a detected/measured/waveform-collapsed or “actual” universe started up their version of CERN sometime in the past 40 years, and our own universe became actual as a result of that?

    In a probabilitsic universe, we may only have been aware of the most probable outcome of measurements, so we’d experience our reality as rather stable (with most things having a waveform with a point at which the probability nears one, and multiple other points at which the probability approaches zero – of which we wouldn’t acquire an awareness of). But when a universe is detected, the waveform collapses into an instance of tangibility, perhaps we’re then able to experience less polarized probabilities?
    Or would it be the opposite? By interacting with parallel universes, do we join into the superposition state? Do we move from a “stable” particle-instance-type of universe reality to a waveform of all possible states? Would the probability waveforms *within* a waveform (our universe) be less polarized (approaching p=1 vs. app. p=0) or more so? Would there be a difference? Would it be detectable/measurable/calculable?

    This is still a notion with fuzzy edges, I admit. But instead of waiting until I’ve ironed out the edges, I thought I’d share it as is and see if anyone has input that might either dismiss it so I can move on to something else entirely, or add to it. 🙂

    *Quote from article: “The atoms did not travel from A to B. It was only when they were measured at the end of the journey that their wave-like or particle-like behaviour was brought into existence.”

  47. Vignette,
    I am still reading through your well thought out post, you are bringing up a lot of interesting topics to think about. I also want to say, that their are an impressive amount of well read, and highly intelligent posters on this site. I am not one of them, that’s a bit of humor, but I am being serious, I am not. I just wanted to post, to encourage you in your thoughts, you are making a lot of sense to me. Hopefully someone else can chime in on your points. Mike H.

  48. I have had a few theories some which were not linked but it could be .. that authors can sense more than one reality, and they are just writing about that reality.. thats why some authors create such “real” worlds. Just like some of us can sense/remember alterations in the timeline..

    But if there are infinite universes there must be a way for the universes to be separate they have their own frequency, so say this reality is version 1.. with a frequency of 1 the next world is frequency 1.1, now occasionally these frequencies for unknown reasons whether science in that universe or this causes a decay of the frequency.. and that allows the worlds to merge.. Because i have some memories that others have, these same people have different memories to me, so it makes me think that more than one reality is collapsing.. or it could be certain areas in space open up into other worlds. Theres been many myths of holes like fairy rings in the UK.. you fall asleep in one and you vanish for years in this world. whereas in the past people were more attuned to the possibilities they made stone circles and other place in space as “mystical” areas or as i like to think they are possible holes into other earths if we only could find a key to change the frequency we could travel to other earths. In an infinite universe it is possible that someone else created a device and are wandering the multiverse and the errors the glitches are just side effects of them travelling..

    Sorry if my writing is a little disjointed. but need to get these ideas out of my head

    1. Martin ,
      your ideas are not disjointed at all. You have some great ideas going on here. The authors one is quite original, I have not seen anyone talk about that idea. Along those lines would/could some artists be the same? Drawing and painting other realities? You bring up a very interesting idea here.

      Your other topic I like also, very C.S. Lewis like. Wood between the worlds , portals to other worlds. I actually think “frequency , or frequencies” may play a part in this whole phenomena. Now I am rambling. Anyway keep posting these original thoughts, there are a lot of good people on this site to discuss with. Mike H.

      1. Authors like Cervantes and Lewis Carroll have spawned a whole genre of mystique and adventure,studying the couple of books by the above authors, alone, might open up a world of possibilities.

        1. Vivek, I agree, a lot of ideas and theories could be spawned from those authors. I have to say , long before I ever had the courage to write on here, I would follow your posts. I enjoy them, you are one of the most well read people I have ever come across. Mike H.

      2. thanks, Sometimes my mind works faster than it should and these ideas just come tumbling out. To my mind its jumbled and disjointed because my mind jumps from one topic to the next.. the idea of the frequencies there is nothing to say that the other universes have to have the same physical or temporal laws.. one could be going a little faster. or slower or if say the dinosaurs didnt die out that could explain a lot of things,

        In the UK I went to a stone circle in the UK and as soon as i stood in it whether it was my imagination, everything seemed calmer whether it had effect or it was just in my mind i dont know.. thats why i have an idea that there are areas where one reality can bleed into another rather than a sudden change.. Thats the problem I keep saying and thinking oh its my imagination.. and dismissing my own thoughts that somethings weird.. but more and more i think something odd is going on. I question myself more and more and find myself watching youtubes and tv with a higher concentration trying to catch a change..

    2. Great comment.

      I’ve been pondering this too. Some sci-fi (and of course ancient tales and allegories like monster stories) is so band on on that it has to be more than authors being well researched and astute to patterns and trends.

      Some say it is ‘predictive programming’ and the powers that be tell them what to write – I don’t buy this for a second, it seems more that these are open highly intelligent thinkers that are having a kind of bi-directional creative process with truths beyond our current store of knowledge.

      Re. frequencies – yeah, waves are EVERYTHING and we are only just beginning to (re?)discover the sonic nature of nature. Also I’ve got a gut feeling that Rupert Sheldrake’s morphic resonance ideas have a valid place in discussing the phenomenon.

    3. Hi, Martin Williams,

      Your conjecture about authors’ writing of sensed other realities rather reminds me of Philip Jose Farmer, w.r.t. his “World of tiers” series. Bear with me, as this will take a moment to unfold:

      Without wishing to present any spoilers for any would-be readers of his work, the series centers around a people who had developed the technological capability to create universes. Over the millennia, they had come to war with one another almost without exception. That’s when the story kicks off. Over the course of the series we meet a number of the “lords”, as they call themselves. Their relationships and names are strikingly similar, at times, to William Blake’s work (18c/19c prophetic poet).

      Well, over the decades (1965-1993), his series expanded and became rather popular (even being turned into a dice-based role playing game). This is when the plot thickens. Eventually, he tells us (not satirically) that his work might not be entirely fictional — that he had had a vision, years ago, and that the stories were essentially what amounts to his having channeled them, rather than his having created them.

      On a partially tangential closing note, the last book (“Red Orc’s Rage”, though it’s technically the 6th in the series of 7) involves the comings and goings of a psychiatric patient between our world and the World of Tiers, in a manner rather reminiscent of that of Thomas Covenant (Stephen R. Donaldson, The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant), or (to a lesser degree) of Burroughs’ John Carter (Mars, Barsoom) or Norman’s Tarl Cabot (Gor), in that the manner of transportation is more astral/ethereal than the more common methods. — the narrative in which he describes his vision — more detailed description of the W.o.T., for those who might be interested

      I could post links for downloading the books, if anyone’s interested (I just didn’t want to go too far off into a tangent).

  49. Please help with the following:
    1. Could not find any real references of Berenstein being changed to Berenstain for year 2013. Only remark on Woodbetweenworlds where poster makes mention of an original name but never says what they believed the orginal name to be. What happened to year 2013?

    2. In “On this day” historical page for year 2013 there are an overwhelming number of posts referencing the number of people “killed” but references about other events are either overlooked, overwhelmed due to number of killed reports, or it was just a boring year. Out of 748 events how come so many of them are about a group of people being killed?

    3. Could 2013 be that missing year between 2001-2002 or some kind of vortex where movie Frozen came out?

    4. Why are prior reports of Berenstein change found only in years 2011-2012 (fyi-2012 I witnessed many deaths) and 2014-2015? Did I overlook anything prior to 2011 and the complete year 2013?

    5. How do these years(2011-2012, 2014-2015, and 2013) possibly line up with or link to 2001/2002? It seems to be laughing at me to see some type of trend and link them in with the 3,11 theory/ 8 (infinity loop)?

    1. Daniel,
      Not sure it will help with your theory. But I posted a reply to your years and number theory post from 7-23-15, but it showed up further down the page. Just wanted to make sure you saw it. I cant make heads or tails of the patterns. But what I wrote may help you. Mike H.

  50. Since all ideas can be discussed here. This is one that has been floating around my head for a while. It has to do with the spelling changes. IF, someone or something wanted to make contact with us, then maybe it would be through our language/words, or at least clues through language. SO, has anyone noticed how many of the big spelling changes (or whatever we call them, anomalies), have either double meanings , or just straight out apply to the mandela effect? Dilemna/dilemma (as in , we are in a dilemma) is an obvious example of the latter. Proctor/Procter( meaning, stand in for, or substitute of, as in substitute reality??) a good example of the former. I wonder if a list were made of some of these if patterns or clues might show up?? Mostly I am just thinking out loud. Daniels years/numbers may or might tie in with this also. And of course possibly after I re-read this in a few days, I will just think I am insane , again. LOL. Mike H.

    1. Interesting point, Mike H.! (And, to answer your private comment: When posting a comment here, people can include a link connected with their username. Unless it stands out as something spammy or troll-like, I usually leave the link intact.)

      1. Without offending any one, i would rather prefer simple bewilderment,than offer algorithms invented by the likes of Enid Blyton and Arthur C Doyle, let truth prevail,let romanticism be reserved for unwinding. Blyton and Doyle and Charteris and Ludlum are great entertainers.

    2. Mike H. you make a interesting point.. I remember growing up I before E except after C. when in reality there are many more exceptions. Why were we taught it when its wrong.. (i am a trained administrator and typist i have been typing for a long time, and if i am not thinking i type Definately. not definitely I am convinced i would remember spelling it wrong. Because when i worked for a local college in the marketing department I typed a press release supposed to say Important Message.. and I spell checked it, and i had actually typed Impotent Massage it would have gone to the local newspaper then to 80,000 homes, so I try not to make any spelling errors.

        1. So 4 years of being asked how is the impotent massage built into me embarrassment with spelling, what was worse was when i spell checked it since the words were proper words. it took my boss to notice it.. I did say after well it would have gotten a lot more readers.. but it made me more cautious about spelling, (i do miss comma’s in dont etc. and i have issues when typing O next to R. but i tend to get most of it right) So when definately became definitely. I started to notice.

  51. Just discovered this site and it’s amazing. Have had many shifts in my life – from some of the things you all mention to experiences where I’ll put something down, look away, look back and it will be gone and nowhere to be found (and no one else around). This used to be scary but in more recent years, I just shake my head and say, only half jokingly, “time shift, dammit”. BTW Mr. Stain’s post scared the **** out of me.

  52. I first started wondering about the dimensional shift theory because learning guitar, my friend taught me to play “Beautiful Tonight” by Eric Clapton, only to find out years later that it was “Wonderful Tonight.” That doesn’t even sound right.

    So, reading in the website last night made me think of another theory. A theory of quantum mechanics suggests that a separate reality is created for each decision we make thus avoiding any potential paradoxes that may be created by time travel. Perhaps the Mandela Effect occurs when two of these realities/universes merge back together leaving remnants/memories of the previous universe in those for which the universe is actually different. If so, this would mean that one universe would have to be dominant over another in the same way dominant genes preside over the recessive. Being a Christian, this would mean that Jesus Christ is the only constant and His death and resurrection the only commons points in all realities.

  53. Fiona , I know this is way out there , but have you ever read the CHANI project papers? It’s the supposed contact of an entity from another dimension through computer simulations( programs), it went on for over five years in the mid-to late 90’s. Then the communication stopped . The ONLY reason I bring it up is, that I have stumbled across it dozens of times over the years looking into other stuff. And IF true (which I really do not know), some of the things this supposed entity talks about are actually pretty well tied into the ME. Time shifts, jumps, the colliders. Again, not sure if it’s true (even if a fraction was—-it would be HUGE), but talking about sentience and simulated universes got me thinking about it. Especially if someone/thing was trying to tell us through clues in the language. I don’t know, it’s early and I need more coffee! LOL I would leave a link , but anyone can type CHANI project into a search engine and get dozens if hits. Mike H.

  54. The double split experiment changes light form particle to wave (and vice versa) depending on how it is observed. So the light may have traveled trillions of miles from whatever star as a wave and our observations changed it to a particle ( and maybe in the sense changing it’s past) Could CERN on observing new particles changed their past and in someway (butterfly effect for instance) have changed our past once they hit earth?

  55. Yes… me again.

    I have suspected CERN of some funky crap. First time they cranked it up: I had a vision/ vivid dream, hallucination- whatever of my going to the bathroom. I have NO recollection of falling asleep, BTW. Anyhoo-

    I had a full length mirror on the bathroom door of where I was living. I walked up to it, and well- *I* was all wrong. I am balding, dair hair, white, blue eyed. My reflection was olive skinned, a LOT more hair, and dark brown eyes! I let out a scream, and so did my reflection-

    And I was back on the couch, blinking and freaked out completely.

    Next time they cranked that damn thing up:

    Went in to check on my sleeping daughter. I shuffled my foot under the bed, and hit this clanking, multijointed *thing*. I could feel it had joints, it was metal, from the claking, and I hurt my stupid toe on it! I went back to my room, got the flashlight, looked under the bed- NOTHING. Not so much as a dust bunny in the general area. I spent some time swearing at this crapped up universe in general.

  56. What if the Mandela effect is tied into quantum immortality/suicide? If our consciousness moves to another reality to carry on after we die then maybe these are memories of worlds that we died in. Added to that, if the ME is something that affects a large number of people then perhaps there were events (bomb, virus, natural disaster, etc) that wiped out a large chunk of population and we moved together.

  57. Had a thought, Since this basically began with berenstein/stain for most of us, i am sure there are a few people out there called berenstein, they would have been joked about, made fun of, Kids being kids so wouldn’t they remember better because it is their last name. Am sure someone out there knows someone with that name or knows someone who knows someone.. could be interesting to find.

  58. Hi Fiona, I guess you didn’t approve the comment I submitted a few days ago (because of the youtube link?). In case it was because of the link, I thought I’d try offering a simpler explanation without reference to the video.

    Here’s a possibility for an explanation, maybe:
    All possible outcomes of measurements co-exist as part of our universe’s superposition state. Within the universe, we, as conscious beings, have the power to affect superposition states of photons, electrons, buckminster fullerines, and other wave/particles that exist within the universe. By observing/measuring these, they collapse from probability-waveforms taking all possible properties or paths, to particles with one path-trajectory.
    But only the ones we observe collapse.
    I’d suggest it could follow from this, that our universe’s superposition state of all possible realities/outcomes/histories as “paths” could *also* be collapsed if observed by a conscious mind. Not from within the universe (because we can’t, from within it, observe it in its entirety), but from without.

    Furthermore, we can observe some properties of a particle without looking at them all, which might collapse the various probabilities but only for the observed property perhaps.

    I would offer that this might suggest that if some of our universe’s aspects are being probed/measured/observed by consciousness from outside of our universe, this could lead to some reality-probabilities collapsing/disappearing, only to be left with ‘set’ realities that conform to the measured properties’ value.

    I think there should be a way of determining whether or not this is occurring, shouldn’t there? The least probable outcomes would be most likely to disappear, leaving the most-probable outcomes what we’d experience.

    This might be detectable if we see a decline of unlikely events in our universe (for example ratios of black-holes to stars, or values of constants…???). Anyone with a cosmology/astrophysics background care to weigh-in on this? 🙂

    1. No, Vignette, I didn’t approve it because I never saw it. I’m sorry that happened. The YouTube link probably landed it in the spam folder… which I don’t have time to read, now, due to the massive daily comment load. Actually, I have no idea why some comments land in spam, because I’ve seen other, good comments there, back when I did skim the folder, daily. My best guess: Some YouTube links look “spammier” than others, and your link was in the former category.

      I am looking at ways to have more time for this site, including Patreon. Among the options, that looks the best, so far. I’m not wholly comfortable with it, but since traffic seems to be on an upswing again, today… I may have to do something about these daily hours, soon.

    2. Hi, Vignette,

      Your question of determining whether otherwise separate realities might interact (specifically in the form of uncollapsed wave functions) and your closing statement about unlikely astrophysical events got me thinking. Insofar as the following is at all scientific, it’s very much only an off-the-cuff scenario.

      Barring more conventional hypotheses panning out, I wonder if the galactic rotational speed issue [1] [2] mightn’t be indicative of such a brush. Given speeds that should fall off more than they do, something must act as a stiffening agent.

      If we assume a plurality of universes with different universal wave functions [3] such that at least some laws and/or constants differ from one case to the next, then the question arises of the implications of their potential interaction(s). What if entanglement permits a certain degree of mixing of properties? This might be in the sense of a mean average, or perhaps more like a swapping of the two. In either case, if one’s property (such as galactic scale gravitation and laws of motion) were copied/removed from it [4] and embedded/admixed to the other, then the resulting conflict would appear to demand internally consistent causes [5], such as material that isn’t there (e.g.: dark matter) or gravitation that works differently over different scales (e.g.: MOND). The nature of entanglement seems to permit such transfer [6] in principle, almost like an artist’s rubbing (though strictly, it would be an exchange, rather than a duplication).

      If this is the case in fact, then the rotational discrepancies might well be fossils of such interaction, akin to the CMBR (in that both would then be frozen records of events). If so, then we might look to horizon of the observable universe, to see if there is any demarcation between current galactic rotation discrepancies and any presumably different rates (though parallax might present a problem for the foreseeable future), after allowing for Hubble shift. Results (whether positive or negative) wouldn’t be unambiguous, but it would certainly beg the question if findings (otherwise homogenous and isotropic) were consistent with a discontinuity over time (indicating some sort of phase shift, or equivalent thereof).

      Keep in mind that these are only idle musings on my part — I don’t have the math sufficient for such a model.

      Side note: my memory vs. Mandela Effect. When the h*ll did “homogenous” suddenly become “homogeneous”?!?

      [3] (Hartle-Hawking state)
      [4] (Related articles are easily obtainable by a search for {separate quantum properties neutron}, or any similar set of terms.)
      [6] (Counterfactual quantum-information transfer without transmitting any physical particles)

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