Comments 13

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  1. Did Opal change color for anybody else? I remember Opal being a light blue, almost white. Now, Opal is a very vibrant rainbow.

    1. Kaleb, are you talking about an actual opal color… like in a crayon or a paint? I’m familiar with opal gemstones. (Trivia: Opals are the national gemstone of Australia.) The opals I’ve owned were usually light blue in a very milky, translucent stone. (They didn’t hold up well to water, and mine became increasingly milky looking if I forgot to take off my ring when washing my hands.) Later, opal cabochons increased in popularity, and — last time I saw one — their colors seeming far more vivid.

      If you’re talking about the gemstones, they can vary with where they’re mined. See Google Images for photos, or Wikipedia:

      1. Huh? Are you joking around?
        Centi means 100. Centimeter literally means 100 meters.
        60 meters would be a sexagenameter. Or a Sexy Gina Meter πŸ™‚

        1. Thanks, Erik, that one slipped past me. Ordinarily, I’d delete it now that it’s been brought to my attention. However, your reply is so funny, I’m leaving both in the comments.

          1. Hello Fiona,
            I’m more of a reader than a writter and I do not mean to disrespect anyone’s memories. I think there is something very real going on with a lot of these memories.
            I’m trying to look at this a rationally as possible.
            Sometimes, however, I come across a post that can’t be serious and I feel I should ‘call it out’ as not to weaken the overall discussion/phenomena.

            1. Erik, I understand. The problem is: a Mandela Effect issue can seem very odd to those who haven’t experienced the exact alternate memory being discussed.

              So, as weird as it seems (to me, as well) that a reality might have centimeters (that’s the American spelling) that aren’t based on the metric (cent = one hundred) system, it might exist.

              For me, as moderator, it can be difficult to decide which comments are so preposterous, they’re posted so the skeptical critics can point to them and say we’re gullible. However, how can I say they’re ridiculous, when I think about the real-life (and very unpleasant) arguments I’ve had with people who are absolutely certain they watched Billy Graham’s funeral (over several days on all major American networks), years ago?

              So, it’s possible that another universe has a different metric system.

              And, speaking of different metric systems… you meant that a centimeter (or centimetre) is one hundredth of a meter, not one hundred meters… right?

              1. What Erik says is a fact,I have already stipulated that upto 90% of comments might be meaningless,but with 8k comments we still have an awesome amount of data,hope Erik appreciates the constraints and importance of the flow of feedback.

  2. I just heard the ozone hole is getting bigger and bigger. I thought I had heard that it had closed up thanks to us regulating the chemicals that had started the hole. Does anyone else remember the Ozone hole closing up?

    1. I thought I heard it was shrinking but there’s probably a lot of different opinions on it that spread conflicting information

    2. The ozone hole fluctuates depending on a lot of factors, recently the hole has been growing due to a lot of ozone being destoryed by natural processes (weather, climate change, solar activity, etc). The chemicals (CFCs) are also still in the atmosphere (they last for 100s of years) they are just not being added to, it will likely be 1000s of years before the hole fully closes.

    1. The Home Depot was one of those things where I thought that they just decided to add “the” to it for some reason.

  3. THE WHO

    Pete Townsend is how I recall the spelling of THE WHO guitarist – not Peter Townshend (and Pete was never the drummer in my recollection they were Keith Moon; Kenny Jones; Zak Starkey)
    Roger Daltry is how I remember the spelling of THE WHO singer not Roger Daltrey (my first thought was Daltray, then Daultry)
    Jon Entwhistle is how I remember the spelling of THE WHO bass player not John Entwistle (the ‘H’ jumped)

    … will there be noticeable differences in their music?

  4. I have this weird experiment recently, where me and my Grandma watch a Doctor Who episode call: Listen, and we both remember it as Matt Smith playing it last year, and we were sure because that’s the first episode we see from the new doctor, and when i was watching it, I can just visually picture what Matt Smith did when he was playing it and what will happen next. However, on the screen it is the new 12th Doctor. I felt a little bit weird, but I am not sure if anyone who experience it also.
    However, my Grandma had experiences like this before, where she went to see movies back in the 70s and rewatch it again, and see totally different actors and actresses playing the movie she extremely like at that time. It’s hard to believe it’s false memory also, because she’s not the kind of person who would do those kind of joke and she’s a graphic artist, which means she’s very good at capturing images in her mind. So….Did anyone shift to the one me and my grandma was in where Matt Smith was in the Listen?

  5. Most of these experiences seem to be rooted in one or more media publications. Television is the ruling king, while print trails behind.

    Television/movie programming power is widely understood and has already been employed to sway large portions of the population to embracing a particular sociological perspective. It is no surprise that within mass media people find themselves in states of cognitive dissonance. The television experiment, I believe, is designed to do exactly that.

    Cartographical anomalies are still subject to media manipulation and could very well be a mass mind experiment. Print media is no different than real-time CRT/LCD/LED display propaganda tools.

    The small number of the affected is puzzling though. With widespread dissemination of media materials, one would think that a mass-media brainwashing experiment would have greater results.

    The only alternative which makes sense to me actually comes from the programming within mass media. Such programming is predictive. It assumes multiverse theory, time travel, alternate realities, and temporal incursions which disrupt the natural forward flow of time. Within the said programs, we find renegade factions with time travel technology which flout the temporal directives put in place by the governing body responsible for timeline preservation. In addition to these criminals, their existence necessitates “time cops” which scramble and stumble through timelines to repair breaches and destructive incursions.

    Mine is a Christian perspective, and in no way doea this negate the devastating aftermath of temporal incursions. In fact, the book of Daniel speaks of the Antichrist, and explains how he will be able to change the times and the seasons of the whole earth. Revelation also mentions that in the last days, every island will be moved from its place. These are unnerving an alarming, but knowledge is power and the truth will set you free.

    Whether it’s the LHC at CERN, the Montauk Project, Pegasus, or simply extra-dimensional beings exerting what appear to be godlike power, we are definitely living in troublesome times.

    Fiona – I have to admit, I’ve experienced many of these erasures. I own 4 paurs of SKETCHERS, and the logos are all changed!

    1. Gregory, I can see the media connection, because that’s where we find (or don’t find, if something seems like it should be there) many of the references people mention at this site.

      However, many reported alternate memories occur completely outside the range of media coverage… an old building where a new building had been, a scar that swapped sides, and so on. Your Sketchers/Skechers example is a good one, although I could see a possible media influence there.

      Maybe I’ve been at the keyboard too long today, but I’m not sure if you’re saying that everything can be traced back to media propaganda, or if you’re including multiverse (etc.) answers among the possibilities.

      1. Gregory, I both agree and disagree with you. While we are more media inundated, I grew up in an era where the media was less prevalent. While we see on youtube, tv berenstein/stain books, how can physical reality change. Being from the 70’s era and the 80’s information was more memory based, we would read the atlases and books and memorise most of it. Now we have so much data flowing into our minds that media can be manipulated, but its a lot harder to do with my age group, When i grew up we only had 3 tv channels. i never read the newspapers back then dont even read them today, rarely watch the news.. So i disagree something is really happening out there. I just cannot believe its manipulation of the media (i took a marketing course years ago and it had some about psychology of selling and advertising so i know the basics worked ina psychology department as well so i know about the human mind as much as i can) just so many real changes..

    1. Ben, all I can say is “Wow!” That is far too reminiscent of the Orson Welles’ “War of the Worlds” broadcast, which some also thought was real.

      However, I have yet to see a post by anyone saying that his or her grandmother (or great-grandmother) recalled the night in 1938 when the Martians landed in NYC and elsewhere. So, I think most confusions like these are sorted out and debunked before being integrated as actual memories.

      1. [Edited]

        In the movie 2001 a space odyssey, the computer name is HAL 9000. If you add 1 to each letter and each number, you get IBM 10 1 1 1. IBM was founded in 1911, you can see another date 9/11/1 and because of the title you know it’s 9/11/2001. 10 1 1 1 or 10/11/1 so 1 month after the WTC event. Back to the future trilogy is related to 9/11/2001 aswell.
        Another link i made with another movie, Blade runner, based on the Philip K. Dick novel Do androids dream of electric sheep? In the book the action takes place in 1992 another 1 9 11. In the movie one of the replicants is Rachael, anagram: hal race. The replicants are biorobotic androids, they belong to HAL’s race, AI computers. In 1977 K. Dick revealed in a press conference (Metz, France) the computer simulation we are living in, because he had memories of alternate realities.

        1. More details about HAL 9000 in 2001 a space odyssey movie.
          Computers’s langage is binary, 0 or 1. That’s why i thought about adding 1, to reveal
          IBM 10111. When you convert the binary number 10111 in decimal you get 23.
          Pointing to IBM 23, reference to IBM System/23 Datamaster. Introduced in July 1981,
          1 Month before the IBM PC in august 1981. 1 Month difference just like 10/11/2001 and
          9/11/2001. The movie was released in 1968… And it is about space travel… Or time travel ?

  6. Another geographical ME? Please help and verify!

    I distinctly remember India being a fairly smooth “V” shape. Now there is a scallop in the right hand side. I never recall this. Seems very recent too as I just noticed and I’ve been looking at this area lately.

    1. India appears to have changed for me too, and recently. There’s the scallop you mentioned, and it looks too long and skinny. It might just be me, but Sri Lanka looks like it moved even further east.

      The new shape of India, when viewed as just the shape without the surrounding countries, looks very much like a comical scene to me. I see a lady with a sun bonnet, a very large posterior, and a dog sniffing said posterior. Sorry, I can’t help myself. I actually laughed out loud when I saw it.

      1. Now that I see it, I can’t un-see it! X>D

        What looks weirdest to me is the Gulf of Cambay, in the north-west corner of India. Was that always there? It forms a very deep indentation that I don’t recall.

  7. On Monday my 7 year old was spelling the name of a candy “bar” that I’ve been eating since I was a kid. I almost told him he spelled it wrong, but when I looked over, it was on the wrapper that way. Does anyone else remember Reece’s rather than Reese’s (the peanut butter cups)?

    Also I was watching a weather report earlier this week and when they showed Australia I thought to myself “what the heck happened to New Zealand?!” I didn’t even realize it was a “thing” until I found this site.

    Thanks so much for this so I know I’m not completely nuts! πŸ™‚

    1. none of us is completely nuts LOL… seriously we are not we jsut see the reality of this world a little better than most. the comforting haze of what everyone knows has faded a little. and we see the deeper truth. If we didnt have this community of like minded people who have experienced the changes and are strong enough to bend without breaking.. we could be easily classed as nuts. So i like to think we are the sane ones and the rest of the world is insane.. it helps.. a little..

    2. I remember Reese’s because of the “R double E S E S Reese’s puffs” commercial which has been airing for at least 10 years, probably more, but it’s possible it changed before that.

      1. Thanks, JP! My family has been using Roku instead of cable TV for the past three years or so. So, I’ve never seen that commercial. Then again, I’ve always spelled it Reese’s.

  8. Hey everyone,
    I’ve been reading the convo regarding Cryptids possibly “bleeding” across realities and it lends itself to a thought I’ve been discussing with my wife. In order for any of us to have these alternate memories the physical evidence had to exist somewhere at some time (i.e. a Bearenstein book.). Obviously, that evidence no longer exists here, UNLESS, like the theory with the Cryptids, 1 or 2 physical examples managed to “bleed” through.
    So, if anyone finds themselves at a yard sale or a used book store, take a second and look through the children’s books. You might find a real unicorn!

    1. there has always been unexplained items discovered, some could be thought as fakes, or hoaxes, Like if i were to tell you that a stamp with a plane flying upside down could sell for lots of money, and you didnt know it wasnt real, you would just bin it.. the inverted jenny nearly $1 million .. How many other people have seen these things and thought its worthless..

      But am sure there are real items, you just have to look at some of the unexplained items discovered..

      1. Hey Martin,
        I like the idea of looking at fakes and oddities from a different perspective. The problem is that most of these (i.e. the Inverted Jenny.) already have an established history of how they came into existence. In order to be ME related, they would need to seem to appear “out of nowhere”.
        Off the top of my head, no objects come to mind that would fit this category, except for, maybe, the Antikythera mechanism.
        Although I can’t think of any other objects at the moment, the idea is REALLY interesting!

  9. Does anyone else remember a scene from the movie JFK where Jack Ruby is held down given a shot by men in white orderly uniforms….he contracts cancer from this “shot” and dies shortly after before Garrison can interview him. Only problem is this scene isn’t on the DVD…and I have the special edition director’s cut of this dvd with deleted scenes and added footage. I clearly remember seeing this part of the movie when I viewed it in the theater though…I saw it on the big screen like 10 times…so I should remember. πŸ™‚

  10. Hi, I’m the person who wrote about seeing a live action Bunnicula adaptation in the 1990s (which as far as this world knows, never happened) back on page 12. I just asked my mother if she remembers it too, as it aired on ABC in prime time so we both would have been watching it on the family TV set, and plus since I was such a fan of the book I would have been bugging her about letting me watch it beforehand after seeing the promos (and it was promoted a lot). She said she didn’t. πŸ™ But she doesn’t think I’m crazy or wrong, in fact she does believe there could be alternate universes – strange things do tend to happen in our house in particular. Meanwhile, I will ask this again, just in case my last post was too long for people to see this: does ANYONE else have the same memory of this adaptation? Because the things I remember are not things of mere dreams. I remember the heavy promotion for it during Saturday morning cartoons and prime time sitcoms. I remember the excitement I had for it. I remember sitting on the floor watching it with my mother right behind me. I remember how the animal characters looked.I remember it being very faithful to the book, so I am definitely NOT misremembering a repeat of the 1982 animated adaptation.

    BTW, I also asked my mother what the name of my favorite book series as a kid was. “Berenstein Bears” we both said. Then I showed her the book I have, now reading “Berenstain Bears”. She totally freaked out.

    1. I remember this. I remember it being sometime in the early 90s. It was a live action version that was brand new. I never even knew there was an animated one until reading this and looking it up. I remember it playing as a special in prime time on a Sunday night. And yes, ABC does sound correct. In fact, as I just wrote that I remembered very strongly that they preempted an episode of “Life Goes On” in order to play the Bunnicula special. I just googled what channel, day, and years that showed played, and it all lines up. “Life Goes On” would have played on ABC on a Sunday night at either 7 pm from 1989-1992 or 8 pm in 1992-1993. Sometime during that run, one Sunday night, instead they played a live action “Bunnicula” special. I remember the live rabbit very well.

  11. Did the spelling of jewelry change? I’m positive it was jewelery, with 3 Es. My 13 year old called me over to the computer just now, because spell check underlined jewelery, and she just couldn’t believe it’s spelled jewelry. Neither can I. I checked it, and sure enough. It’s changed.

    1. It didn’t really change. The British (and Australian) spelling is jewellery. In America, it’s jewelry, but — especially in past generations — the British influence in America led some to spell it jewelery. While the latter isn’t technically correct in the U.S., I’ve seen it accepted by several publishers.

      1. Thank you for clarifying. I looked it up last night in my printed dictionary, and online. I still can’t find any references to jewelery with one L, but I’m glad to know at least the British spelling has three Es. The British spelling didn’t come up in my search results, so thanks.

      2. I had always remembered it as ‘jewelry’, but that’s probably because I pronounce the word strangely. I do remember having been taught both ‘jewellery’ and ‘jewelery’.

  12. I recall the food DONUT being spelled DOUNUT.
    Yes, DUNKIN DONUTS was DUNKIN DOUNUTS in a previous dimension I experienced.

    1. I remember both dounut and doughnut. Donut always looked to me like it would be pronounced due-nut.

      1. Thank you Carla! I’m glad I’m not the only one who recalls that spelling. I didn’t want to elaborate on this, seeing no one seemed to have the same memory. I started to think I was making stuff up, even though I worked in a bakery for two years and when the Dunkin Donuts opened a block away we had to stop making them cause ours weren’t selling (ours were better as we used real ingredients). I remember having a discussion with the owner about the spelling. I thought it strange the N was surrounded by 2 U’s. I remember at the time I thought it looked strange, probably another shift.
        I’d also like to add that after I posted the DONUT topic, I looked up Donuts again and saw the other spelling doughnuts … first time I experienced that spelling.

  13. Fiona,

    While reading an article about tonight’s GOP debates I noticed the author wrote, “Looney Toons”. I don’t what this goes to helping prove, other than perhaps that there are others who also remember it as “Looney Toons”?

    Here’s a link to the article:

    I also have a screenshot of it in case the text somehow gets changed or something, but I don’t know how to upload a picture into these comments.

    Anyway, I thought you and others might want to know.

    Steve M.

    P.S. I suspect that if the author is ever told they are spelling it “wrong”, they are going to have their own ME moment.

    1. It almost makes me think that Dunkin Donuts branded the name and the word just sorted of shifted to donut because it was recognizable to everyone, having 3 different spellings (donut, dounut, doughnut) would be too complex for the immediate gratification generation. Like in the movie Idiocracy with Luke Wilson everything seems like it is being dumbed down. Or maybe it’s just this particular timeline that is dumbed down and we come from a timeline that is more sophisticated. Doesn’t it seem like we live in a time or timeline where people don’t have to think or use reasoning? ( stealing this line from the movie source:Wiki) >>>The human population has become morbidly stupid, speak only low registers of English competently, and are profoundly anti-intellectual.

  14. All I can say is WOW! I never knew this was a phenomenon. I remember Nelson Mandela’s death in prison. I remember watching the coverage on television. When he died I remember thinking to myself….I though he was dead. I didn’t give it much thought till now.

    The event that gives me a more eerie feeling has to do with Hurricane Katrina. I have a vivid memory of walking though the student union at the University of Union while on my phone with my mother. I was pregnant at the time. I remember the maternity shirt I was wearing. I remember looking at the trees swaying on the TV screens and thinking that my sister’s name would now forever be associated with a Hurricane. My little sister’s name is Katrina. My son was born May 1st 2005. He is my oldest and there is no way I can be mistaken about this timeline. But strangely….I have memories about feeling guilty about the babies that were dying of dehydration and wanting to go help. I remember holding my son in my arms. Is it possible that both of these events happened in different planes? I know for a fact that I had the conversation with my mom….saw the coverage on TV at the university and I was pregnant. Very Very strange.

    1. That’s quite interesting. I also was pregnant during hurricane Katrina. And I too have a sister named Katrina so I also had the same thoughts about her having her name associated with the hurricane. Anyway, I was pregnant and on bed rest so my mom had to fly out to where I was because my now ex was deployed as part of the national guard to help with the relief. Anyway, my daughter was born February 2006…. And I remember the hurricane being either august or September of 05….

  15. here’s the NEW one about celebrity / ACTOR deaths – does anyone else remember this one

    had to report – it felt so “blatant” glitch this time

    it’s so clear in my mind – but now Im actually not even surprised –

    Verne Troyer – the midget from the AUSTIN POWERS movies – in my reality (at some point few years ago)

    he died – and I remember thinking – …well – he didn’t live very long after he’s good friend Heath Ledger passed away

    Sidenote – wikipedia shows movies until 2012 – which is the year i can locate hes death , but imdb shows at least two full movies after that

    SO – anyone else ? memories about this one ?

  16. I have had a flash of memory, on the bbc radio they mentioned the speed of light, and i remember that science could have slowed the speed of light down, i cant find those reports, but i am sure they could slow it down by a great deal. Now i find they only did that in January. but it was years ago, to put it in a timeline, it was when star trek the next generation was on, they said they could create a bubble of slow light and thereby travel faster.. this was a long time ago..

  17. Movie alternate ending that “doesnt” exist, I remember a second flash of the ending to wild things, that at the end, the two women go off and set up the man up for murder because of some teeth they pull..

  18. Hi Fiona. This is a repost and re-edit of a reply I made to a comment posted on page 9 back when page 10 was brand new. I don’t think anyone read it because of its odd publication timing and placement, so I’m reposting it here on the newest page. I’m looking for feedback, I hope you don’t mind.

    I just finished reading through all whopping 10 pages, and a lot of ideas are forming in my mind as a result. The most important one seems to be finding a solution to the whole “If you somehow exchange your body with that of an alternate version of yourself from a different timeline, what happens to the “you” that gets displaced when you slide into what used to be its body”?

    I like the idea of there being infinite timelines. I feel like the only difference between timelines are the actions of the lifeforms in them, determined by their personalities. Some timelines feel “better” than the one we are in right now because they are inhabited and run by people who are more similar to us. When we spend time concentrating on what kind of a world we would like to live in, I can’t help but wonder if we subconsciously exchange bodies with another version of ourselves who prefers the timeline that we live in to their own, just as we prefer the one that they live in?

    For example, a lot of the changes to original timelines mentioned on this website seem to describe worlds that are more technologically advanced than ours (with teleportation and flying cars), but also more violent and disturbing (with more political deaths, lots of dead celebrities, an inexplicably uninhabited Madagascar, no New York City, China conquered by Japan for decades, and tall towers that pierce the cloudline where children are interviewed by authority figures for unknown reasons). I’m not suggesting that all of these changes exist in a single alternate timeline. I am pointing out that everyone who has posted on this website seems to have traveled from their original timeline to this one. Even though our world often seems to be going to hell, nothing extremely horrible appears to have happened in the past 25 years of this timeline other than 9/11. For example, no one nuked Israel back in 2003, and World War 3 didn’t happen as a result.

    Anyway, it seems to me that everyone on this website (possibly due in no small part to Fiona’s screening) is kind and has insightful comments to offer in addition to their tales of alternate timelines. By guessing, I would say that one thing we all have in common is that we have traveled to this specific timeline from many others because it is the least violent one that we have all been able to find, one that offers the most hope for a pleasant future for humanity. Apparently, other versions of ourselves with different personalities did not mind the timelines that we came from, and subconsciously agreed to trade places with us, and here we are.

    What do you think? That’s my favorite idea so far.

    1. Nick, The question as to what happens to the existing person is a riddle,a riddle without an answer.When you get an answer,it isn’t the answer to the riddle; it’s the end of a story.

    2. Please show where anyone claimed no New York City, China conquered by Japan for decades, and “tall towers that pierce the cloudline where children are interviewed by authority figures for unknown reasons.”

      I’ve read alot of these pages, and I haven’t seen anything like that. All of the accounts I’ve read show a clear pattern and match my memory, especially the geography ones.

      Disinfo? I don’t know.

      1. HSM, Thanks for catching that. I’ve run a search of all comments with (separate searches) New York City, NYC, towers, and Japan. So far, I don’t see anything that matches any of those descriptions, except for the Japan/China topic, mentioned at

        The inclusion of one true reference is typical of disinfo posts, so that is a concern. And, with over 8k comments at this site, a search (from my dashboard) might miss something. I’m not sure.

        I can’t rely on my memory of all comments, since I sometimes just skim them for anything rabidly skeptical or spammy. However, I’m pretty sure I’d recall anything related to children being interviewed by authority figures, and… at the moment, I don’t.

        Five different people (by email and IP numbers) are using the name “Nick” at this website. The one who posted the problematic comment has just one other comment at this site, and it was a very thoughtful one.

        So, I’m not sure what to think about this, and I’m unable to check every comment for potential disinformation.

        I’m hoping the original poster — the Nick who talked about a reality with no New York City — will return to clarify this.

        1. I do remember a comment from someone sharing a childhood memory of being interviewed in a tall skyscraper. I want to say it was part of one of the hot air balloon discussions, not sure which page, but it was a personal memory for that person. I don’t think others chimed in saying me too or anything. Just wanted to say I read that one, awhile back.

        2. Fiona,

          I’ve been a regular visitor to this site for several months now. I’ve spent days reading through all the comments, fascinated. The stories that stick with me most are the ones about alternate realities that are very different than the more common ones discussed here.

          While I don’t off hand remember a story about a reality without a New York City, I do specifically remember the story containing the “tall towers that pierce the cloudline where children are interviewed by authority figures for unknown reasons.” In that same story, I remember the person describing how he had noticed that cars had changed and that one day he noticed the tires on his car and didn’t know what they were. I believe he also mentioned in that timeline that Earth had been in open contact with Extra Terrestrials. I’m not sure if this is helpful or not, I just felt like I should chime in to say that I remembered this one.

          On a side note, another story that stuck with me was the man who remembered United States #51 and #52 being New Brunswick and Veracruz.

          I believe that I am a native of this timeline. I’m a little disappointed that I don’t have any of the alternate memories that everyone else has. I will continue to live vicariously through everyone here!

          1. How interesting. I also remember 52 states but being Canadian, I just assumed I was wrong. I grew up in New Brunswick (I assume the gentleman you’re referencing meant New Brunswick, Canada) and in my reality its never been a part of the US. That makes me wonder if, on top of there being another reality where there are 52 states, there are many where the extra two states are different.

        3. I just a posted a comment a few minutes ago stating that I remembered the comment Nick was referencing. After I posted I decided to hunt for it. It was posted by James on August 10, 2015 at 11:23 pm. (Major Memories Page 7) After reading it again, it does seem that he mentioned remembering a reality with no New York.

    3. Nick I think I chimed in somewhere on this stating that I feel that all of our possible lives are being played out and you are only conscious of one. You may be the only one conscious on that timeline. Everyone else is perceived by you as they would be had they taken routes that put them on that same timeline when in fact they are experiencing another timeline.

      This brought me to the thought that the Mandela Effect may be us experiencing consciousness on more than one timeline? I gotta say, I’m resonating nicely with this theory. It would definitely explain multiple memories.

      1. Hi, Anthony,

        Your idea of being the only one conscious within a timeline wherein everyone else is as they would be had they taken said timeline puts me in mind of dreamtime, though with an oxymoronically multiply-solipsistic twist on it.

        If your hypothesis is the case though, then it’s entirely possible that I’m currently talking to myself — in this universe (if not in this one, then there’s one out there somewhere in which it’s just me, all by my lonesome, though I suppose that that me might not realize it, unless he has a conversation of this sort with some non-existent other person, whether it’s a not-you or a not-someone-else). In your you-only timeline (or perhaps an infinity of them), you’re doing so, rather than I. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? πŸ˜‰

        That, in turn, brings to mind the idea of Brahmā’s eye opening, and taking in all of a universe’s existence until its end, and all other Brahmās doing likewise with their universes, all of which is occurring within ViαΉ£αΉ‡u’s dreams. Perhaps we are each Brahmā to our own reality, interacting with everyone else who is also ourselves (as one might play a video game as one character, then as another, etc., except all at once in the case of “reality”), and all under the auspices of our one single dreaming self as ViαΉ£αΉ‡u (this treads rather uncomfortably close to a very empty lonely vision), rather like a single electron-positron bouncing across time?

        1. Nice CTE! The Solipsistic theory is lonely no doubt, hence why we/I did this lol.

          Most of my One Consciousness ideas stem from other teachings and books. I rarely conform to any one theory or idea no matter how I resonate with it, after experiencing the Mandela Effect. I guess it felt right then somehow and is embedded. (I’ll have to purge that, even if true). But saying that, I do think, if it is the case, by the time we’re done with infinity … We won’t be alone.

          (psst … CTE … I won’t forget about you … don’t forget about me … deal?)

            1. CTE, I love those lines. And — a complete aside, but sort-of related (no pun intended) — my husband and I were at Disney World yesterday, and I was wearing one of my Mandela Effect t-shirts. Someone recognized it, and we had a great chat (too brief, but it was a busy/crowded day). It reminded me of the ways this community really is connected, and yes, we are family.

              1. Hi, Fiona,

                I kind of thought that you might’ve been stateside at the moment, given the timestamps in the comments-feed page.

                Say hi to Mickey (or Mikey, or Mickie, or…) for me! πŸ™‚

                Aside-aside: Grr! I hate Firefox’s auto-correct suggestions! Do you have any idea of how many perfectly reasonable (though ofttimes admittedly somewhat unusual, archaic, or technical [oh, right: but it knows the word “ofttimes”?!?]) words it doesn’t know in English? How many non-English words it’s never heard of? How many perfectly normal (and I double-check Google, for this — now w/ M.E. more than ever) agglomerate words it doesn’t know? (Wait a sec.; I can’t really be sure that this is a Firefox quirk, rather than M.E., now can I?)

  19. Re: Star Wars (The Empire Strikes Back): Vader said: “No Luke, I am your father”.
    So, both. Does this imply a third line?

  20. I’ll chip in with another celebrity death memory: Terry Gilliam. I’m not confusing him with another Terry, because his last name is like the first name of a friend of mine (Gillian), and I remember watching his Monty Python animations as a memorial. I remember a big memorial thread on another forum I visit regularly, but it’s gone now. I posted this on Reddit but nobody shared the memory, and they all suggested that I was getting confused with another Terry.

  21. Your email contact isn’t working..

    Here is something wierd – was the first website online CERN?

    it’s the project

    here’s a direct quote from the so called CERN creator of the internet:

    Anyone who has lost track of time when using a computer knows the propensity to dream, the urge to make dreams come true and the tendency to miss lunch.

    1. kirk, that’s very odd. (I edited your post because I’d like not to raise any additional red flags or anxiety about an issue that might be a simple administrative or database glitch. As a precaution, I called the person who controls that aspect of my book-related projects, and she said nothing is amiss. However, I appreciate the time you took to report it to me.)

      The contact form seems to be working fine, now. I’m not sure if you ran into a server or browser issue. However, if you were looking for a reply, the volume of email I receive makes that impossible. I read all of the emails, but replying stopped being an option back in 2014.

      The concept of “the first website” is tricky, but as something using the term “website” and appearing on the web… that’s fascinating history. We’ve talked about CERN’s involvement in the creation of the WWW, but this gave me an excuse to take another look at it.

      The quote is interesting, especially if we take “lost track of time” and “make dreams come true” literally.

    2. “Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so.” (Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy) Maybe Mr. Adams was onto something and didn’t realize it.

  22. I recall the year being 1998 when the Columbine High School massacre happened, both by the number indicating the year and based on how old I was at the time. Today I saw mention that it occurred in 1999?? I checked Wikipedia and a couple other places to find them agreeing with 1999. I’m confused as heck. The event really affected me deeply, I can’t think of why I would misremember the year.

    1. Thank you so much for sharing! I’ve never seen anyone else mention it! If you go back to Major Memories 12, use the “Ctrl f” function and type in “columbine”; you’ll find my post.
      As I recall, Paducah happened in 1995 and Columbine happened in 1997. Paducah lined up with my graduation. However, if you look up the information, it’s listed as having happened in 1997. Columbine is listed as having happened in 1999. Another friend of mine vividly recalls Columbine happening in 1997. It shook him up, because he was in college at the time.

    2. Hi, Coloradan!
      I left a reply last night, but I don’t see it here today. Ahh! Someone who remembers the incident as being BEFORE 1999! I’m divorced now, but I was newly married that year: it was 1997. Also, I had moved during late Summer (which would have been while school was out); the shooting happened shortly after the move, taking place in the Fall of the year, not Spring (as officially stated).
      Again, it may be different years, but at least we both remember it pre-1999!

        1. Thank you, Fiona!
          Both comments popped up today. πŸ™‚ *thumbs up*
          Again, thanks for all you do!!

  23. Something i have noticed over the last few weeks, especially in the UK, quite a few news stories about people finding their “twins”, people who look almost identical yet are no relation. Twin strangers. I am wondering if this is part of a mandela. (twin strangers website exists). You could say adoption of twins, and coincidence but many people are finding twins and they are not adopted.. seems very odd to me.

      1. I know i was going to put it in dopplegangers but it didnt quite fit. A few years ago my brother went to a comic convention and he saw 5 of me, one of them he was going to go upto and say hey martin why are you here when you said you didnt want to come.. he nearly fooled my own brother.. this is actual physical duplicates

    1. The twins thing is actually what prompted my spouse to compare me to Agent Smith. The other day a lady thought I was someone who lives near her. My mother also said she knows someone who looks just like me with similar name and background. It shocked me for her to say such a thing so candidly.

      The twinning thing is something that I have looked into in depth when researching phenotypes. (I think this is mentioned a little on comment 11/12 page). There are “twins” who are not directly related and range in years. Example: Clinton 47 has a twin who is 13 and another who is 80 or so. All sharing similar backgrounds and weird oddities such as Clinton 47’s last name is Raleigh and Clinton 13 lives in Raleigh, NC, Clinton 80 plans to move to Raleigh next year. Things like that. Yes, it gets strange.

    2. The twin strangers thing reminded me of a story from last year. This statue from the 1800s looks exactly like actor Nick Offerman (Ron Swanson on parks and recreation):

      I’ve seen other uncanny look a likes between old artwork and current celebrities, but this one takes the cake.

      1. I’m also noticing a sudden surge in “twin” stories, in media and pop culture, in general. I can think of several explanations for it, most could possibly be related to Mandela Effect and other strangeness. Or, it might just be a cultivated trend, to support some recent media releases.

        In this particular case, I’d want to check Nick Offerman’s family tree against that of Edwin Forrest. Despite the theoretical dilution of hereditary factors, it wouldn’t be the first time I’ve seen someone look almost exactly like an ancestor. (It would take some facial recognition software to compare Offerman’s and the Forrest statue’s features to see if they really are a near-match.)

          1. Daniel, of course this made me wonder: What if the use of facial recognition software — initially to identify people for security purposes — turned up so many look-alikes (whatever their origin, including relatives, doppelgangers, and duplicates temporarily sliding into this reality), they’ve had to go mainstream with the topic of twins, to give the concept a firm shove in the direction of “it’s just fiction.”

            Can’t have people thinking they have duplicates visiting this reality. Not really.

            Just a whimsical thought. Probably not worth pursuing at this point.

  24. Thank you Fiona for continuing to update this site. In case the site ever disappears, I suggest we find an alternate place to continue this fascinating and life changing research collectively. I’m an HSP and empath with tinnitus (as long as I can remember) and also have trouble remembering much from childhood. I’m from the E universe. I’ve always thought it was “A” vampire, but after discovering this site weeks ago I’ve learned its “the”…except last night on the TV (guide) at my place of work, the movie was playing and it was “interview with A vampire”. I thought to myself, maybe I mixed it up..maybe it’s collectively remembered as “the” and “A” is the new spelling. However after double checking I see this is not the case. I should have taken a photo of the tv. I’ve been wondering if this is all a mass mind control experiment by tptb/media, but that doesn’t explain old, original Berenstein Bears books physically changing as well. Let’s continue to question everything, think for ourselves and not become apathetic and accepting of consensus reality.

  25. Hello, i have been following the comments for a few months now, but havent contributed as yet, so here goes.
    Where to start? BerenstEin bought me here like most other people. Nearly daily something is different from what i remember, but i had always chalked it up to bad memory til i found about this anomaly. I honestly will never argue a fact with anyone ever again! facts are not constant in this version of here.
    For me, i am sometimes having physical tremors or vibrations before the new changes. Does anybody else notice the tremors/vibrations?
    Im also seeing strange cubic glowing things,, i dont know how to explain them! they change from cubes to hexagons and assorted 3d and 2d shapes and back to cubes – metatrons cube? i dont know. Im avoiding driving as they are very distracting. They come on slowly luckily, increase in intensity for 20mins, then slowly fade away. I have had my eyes checked, i had a tumour behind one eye that had vanished at my last eye check. Heart palpitations when sitting quietly, but not the anxiety kind.
    I experienced 5 weeks of non stop de ja vu earlier this yr, the cognitive dissonance was deplorable, nearly booked myself in a psych ward, but it slowly faded away in the last week of it. But that was the first time i saw the grid in the sky… Holographic universe? have you ever seen a shadow hanging towards the light instead of away from it? i have once, back in 93.
    I have been reading about the physical ascension changes to try to explain whats going on with me.
    Yesterday discovered Harry Chapin, never heard of him, Cats in the Cradle was always by Cat Stevens, about him and his father, wherever i was before!
    One of Pinks songs wordings have changed – husband/boyfriend
    I recall hearing songs yrs before they actually came out.
    I dont recall Mandela dieing in prison, but do recall him becoming president.
    I remember tank boy and many (hundreds) others dieing in Tienanmen Sq.
    I dont recall a lot of your American celebrities, im Australian, so cannot comment on USA icons very well.
    My geography has always been good, but have noticed definate (this is how i always spelled definAtely! also dilemna, rythmn, qantumn) changes on the world map. I try to put the growth of Russias and Alaskas size down to global warming, they are increasing the size of the continents according to the ice receding, but how long can i fool myself?
    52 USA states
    Mongolia was a part of China, not its own country.
    Madagascar was a nature reserve, no people.
    I lived in Papua New Guinea for 5 yrs and it took 3 hours to fly there in a little 10 seater plane from Cairns in QLD, i cant say the gap has shrunk.
    New Zealand seems further away.
    Our Aussie flag has lost a star.
    Japan did not border Russia.
    I do feel that the UN has a lot to do with these changes with the maps, but that certainly doesnt explain peoples personal experiences. I dont think we notice the changes as much when they are so close to home.
    No one has mentioned the 19A0s (that i have seen) which may be due to moderation of posts, but on some deep level i feel this is applicable. Weird stuff and cover ups have been going on as long as anyone can remember. But conspiracy theories aside….
    Lindenburgh baby was never found.
    Taupe, chartreuse, puce changes.
    One that i recall and no one has mentioned (that i have seen) – Kelsey Grammar died in 9/11, maybe it was a hoax, but very happy to see him alive.
    Personal experiences of this effect include:
    My daughters surname changed a decade or so ago when she was still a child.
    My first name changed when i was a child.
    People have noticed their friends seem to change, me too… I dont have any friends anymore!
    I had trouble learning left from right as a child (doesnt everyone?) but only because it kept changing! Same with capital cities, they changed around a lot.
    When i think back to things i couldnt grasp in school, and now that i know about this weirdness, i dont think im so stupid after all! Nothing is static, everything changes. Even facts.
    I read a novel and before i have finished the story, at least one of the character names have changed, it gets very confusing to follow along with a story. i dont read novels much now.
    My husband changed over night, we divorced.
    Meeting people for what seems like the first time, and realising i know them, and how could i have ever forgotten them.
    So in conclusion, this started for me when i was about 8 yrs old, i fractured my skull (NDE?) in 1983. Time started moving very strangely, (which i would like to discuss but i dont want to put ideas out there before i hear it from someone else, you know?) which could have been a result of the skull fracture, but drs disagreed.
    There is so much more i would like to say, but im sure i have taken up enough of your time. Im a very shy person, but i really hope i can contribute again soon.
    Kindest regards

    1. InKredible, thanks for taking the time to post that comment.

      I’m sure the grid in the sky was particularly unnerving. (I’m reminded of the movie, “The Truman Show,” and rather wish I hadn’t thought of it in this context. LOL) The name changes must be downright disturbing; that’s extreme.

      You may want to join the conversations at the personal memories article, as I think you’ll find others there with related experiences, including NDEs. In addition, some older conversations continue at a poll-related article, asking people when their alternate memories began.

    2. Hi, InKredible,

      Pink’s “So what”: I hadn’t listened to this song in years, until just now. Yep, I remember it as boyfriend. too. (I guess I just lost my husband / I don’t know where he went / So I’m gonna drink my money / I’m not gonna pay his rent…)

      Taupe: Google’s showing me swatches that vary somewhat, but are broadly grey, lavender-ish, and sort of pink; it should be basically tan/beige, ja?

      Husband: clearly not something that I’m privy to, but I’ve wondered for years about something similar regarding my (1st) wife. Long story short, she changed in 2006, as if she were still herself, yet also someone totally other. We’d been together for a little over 18 1/2 years at that point, and over the course of those next few months — *poof*, gone. I’d go into details, no problem sharing, but even if this happened by some sort of very real M.E. causation, the details themselves are (maybe/maybe not?) presumably irrelevant here.

      1. Closeted team-E, that’s an interesting way to look at relationships where one person seemed to change, for no apparent reason. Maybe it was Mandela Effect, but the person’s general “data changes” (for lack of a better way of saying this) weren’t significant enough for most people to notice.

        Also, I’m interested in the color taupe, which should probably be added to the colors threads, but — for the moment — this is an easy place for me to reply.

        I know that taupe is began as a tan-brown-grey color, and it refers to the average color of a French mole.

        However, for me, taupe (in Photoshop) is #996699, with Saturation reduced -48, and Hue increased +31. Of course, one must allow for monitor settings, as well, but that’s approximately what it is. (I’d already worked with a darker version of that color for a logo, as I began setting up Broome Theory… which isn’t really ready for viewing.)

        I realize that “taupe” is used to describe a wide range of tans and greys, especially since the 1940s. However, the range of colors some people connect with it — including me — varies far beyond the typical swatches for taupe in Google Images.

        I’m not convinced it’s as radical an issue as chartreuse, but it’s a little too far for me to dismiss as something akin to perceptions of more agreed-upon colors such as turquoise or even pink.

        1. Hi, Fiona,

          It sounds as if taupe might be a more complex set of color references than I had imagined. Good luck sorting that one out.

          As for my description of how things ended with my (1st) wife in 2006, perhaps this fits well with the “*poof*” phrasing: things had been normal, going relatively well, and then it was all as if I had been reading a book with one plotline and someone else had torn out the second half and replaced it with an entirely different book. Same characters, same backstory, but thoroughly different flow. I couldn’t figure out if she had simply snapped, or if she’d been with me all of those years simply because she didn’t see any other options available ’til then.

          Over the years, I’ve occasionally wondered if maybe I didn’t die in the car wreck in 2005. The doctor had remarked (in all seriousness) that I was lucky that I have a thick skull — I had bent the steering wheel (to an approx. 1″ depth) with my left supraorbital ridge, and the transmission had jumped back 1.5′ (smashing my left patella in the process [left because this happened in England — and I’d had 4 years’ previous left-hand driving experience in Japan immediately preceding this]).

          At the time, I had recalled (still do) one doctor asking me the usual questions (my name, the date, my age, etc.). I recalled the usual issue with my age (because I was born in November, I typically work out my age from the year, then subtract one). My (1st) wife had said that this never happened, even though she had been in the room with me, in that memory. I simply assumed that just possibly she had missed it (since we’d discussed this not long after the crash), or that more likely I had simply imagined it (due to TBI).

          Since running into the Mandela Effect, I’ve been wondering more strongly if my memory is correct, but “something” happened. It would certainly explain how things went from Aladdin’s happy mid-story to Hamlet’s end theme. This holds a bit of a siren’s song for me, since it would mean that maybe the “real”-her didn’t walk out (though if so, then it would also imply that the “real”-her got stuck with a “not”-me, though he might be better for her than I was, you never know) — but that way lies Nietzsche’s abyss.

          1. Hi, Fiona,

            I’ve been debating wasting the bandwidth for such a minor point, but I figure that it might be worthwhile. The car crash in 2005 involved a tree (and no other vehicles). I had had enough sideways momentum that the car torqued somewhat upon impact. They broke an 8 ton winch in their first (failed) attempt to remove it. They had to use a 12 ton.

            I mention this because the more that I think about it, the more that I suppose that it might qualify as an N.D.E. (they’re not something that I’ve ever really researched at all, so I can’t really say, but it feels about right).

              1. Well, I did kind of consider myself a bit *ahem*… “bulletproof” for a while after that. πŸ™‚

                However, I haven’t done the math, and even if I did, it would have to be based upon certain assumptions (e.g.: although I believe that I was doing approx. 30 m.p.h. [hence a roughly 80% chance of survival], all that I know for sure is that my speed was certainly over 20 m.p.h., and certainly under 40/45 m.p.h. [hence 20% or less chance of survival] — it was within whatever the speed limit was for that road, but I don’t remember what that limit had been — I can give you the exact location and date, if you’d like [broadly, I’ll just say that it was in Suffolk]).

                That being the case, the torque might well have been the primary force involved, which I think (admittedly am not sure) would mitigate some of the seemingly-astonishing circumstance (of course, the rotational force resulting might make it worse, rather than better).

              2. Addendum:

                Come to think of it, after having hit the tree, I had called my (1st) wife to let her know what had happened (for the record: _never_ start a conversation with the words “Don’t panic, but…), gotten out of the car (which I should have known to not do) into the ditch-of-death (the ditches along the roadsides there can swallow cars), walked up the ~45Β° ditch-face, and called work to let them know that “I might be a little late…“. I mention this because when the ambulance got me to the hospital, it turned out that I had trifurcated my left patella, and shouldn’t have been able to walk; given the nature of the incident, and this thread, I figured that perhaps I should have included that detail.

                Sadly, no white light (I felt a bit let down over that), no tunnels, no life-flashing-before-my-eyes, no apparent lost time; it had seemed that no significant time had passed (though it’s possible that upwards of a 2-3 minutes had, since I hadn’t glanced at the time immediately beforehand).

                There have been a few lesser incidents, as well, though none nearly as oh-so-cool as that one. (I can share or not, whichever might be preferred.)

            1. Closeted team-E,

              NDE (Near-Death Experience) refers to an experience of conscious awareness after one has been declared clinically dead (i.e., an Out of Body Experience [OBE] during a period of no vital signs); it does not refer to “close calls” or being lucky to have survived an accident in a way that seems unlikely or improbable.

    3. InKredible,

      I almost forgot the big one: Japan. I lived in Fussa Shi (Tokyo) for four (4) years, and North Korea was north of us, not west.

    4. I’ve heard about the geometric shapes you talk about. Terance McKenna was an American ethnobotanist, mystic, psychonaut, lecturer, and author who spoke and wrote about a variety of subjects, including psychedelic drugs, plant-based entheogens, shamanism, metaphysics, alchemy, language, philosophy, culture, technology, and the theoretical origins of human consciousness. He used to experiment with DMT he said he would pierce through a veil & see geometric shapes & entities he called imps, other people who have taken DMT have also said they see the colorful hexagonal beehive-like shapes. On the show ‘Rick & Morty’ the episode called “The Ricks must be Crazy”(2015) basically Rick(super genius scientist) created a mini universe the way he explained it was he put a ‘Spatially tessellated void inside a modified temporal field’ the tessellated part I think explains why people see these geometric patterns. The whole episode was about him shrinking down going inside the miniverse & deceiving the people into thinking he was a god-like alien, he then tricked them into generating energy for him to run his spaceship. Anyways the thing about the grid you mentioned reminded me of this great movie I saw called ‘The 13th Floor'(1999) it was similar to the Matrix movie & when the guy went to the edge of reality it was a computerized grid(is this why they won’t let people past the 88th parallel on the North & South Poles?). Many believe the Earth is flat and possibly hollow & that there is a barrier of ice surrounding the edge & this is why these areas have such a heavy military presence & send people away that wonder too close. I personally stay away from the Flat Earth Theory as much as possible because it seems like a tactic to divide & conquer the truth seekers but none the less it is something to ponder. Admiral Richard E. Byrd’s accounts of what he saw down there are quite astonishing but I digress. The whole 88 time paradox is a bit strange especially when you look into the gematria of the new Freedom Tower, there’s some good videos about it on my friends Youtube channel: ‘TruthMediaFilms’ his main channel is ‘TruthMediaRevolution’ his work mostly focuses on CERN, ME, Saturn, the Tesseract(which is show in a tons of movies these days it seems like our reality may be trapped inside of a hypercube also known as a tesserect hence all of the cube symbolism everywhere). He just posted a video from that newer TV show BrickleBerry where they clearly say the words “BerenstIEN Bears, I hate those Jews” this seems like it might be a red herring from our controllers. Anyways the last thing I will recommend is watching the movie “Coherence”(2013) this movie is amazing, it’s all about this comet passing over the Earth & when that happened all these parallel timelines merged until it passed. I don’t want to give away too much but it’s really focuses on this subject more than another movie I’ve seen. Sorry about the long post Fiona this is my 1st time commenting here & I wanted to get all my thoughts out before I forget them later folks.

  26. Amazing threads here. I first heard about this effect of changes in our “timeline” from Jim Stone, but after finding this site clearly there’s a lot more going on than what he’s been talking about.

    I don’t remember it being dark this late in the morning before. For months it’s been getting light after 7am, and don’t remember it being dark that late in the morning for that long through the year. Makes me think of the book of revelation and what it says about shortening of the days.

    Speaking of which, for years I’ve noticing changes in the Bible. Things I KNOW I had read but can’t be found anymore.

    Mirror mirror. No doubt about that, or Mr. Roger’s day in THE neighborhood.

    But where I’m from it was always Jif. The only Jiffy I remember is Jiffy Pop, the stovetop popcorn thingy.

    Helena Bonham Carter died when I was on my trip to Ireland, that was around 2008 or so. I distinctly remember seeing that on tv and talking about who she was with some of the locals. They were like who was she? And I was telling them she’s the one in all those creepy Tim Burton moves, etc. Couldn’t believe it when she re-appeared. Anyway.

    I’m wondering if there’s some quality that we all share, here in this place at this time, that we’re all being placed in this one timeline together. From so many disparate ones, it would seem.

    Or maybe Michael Talbot was right, we are spirits living in a giant hologram. And for whatever reason it’s been full of glitches lately.

    I’m leaning more toward that, a multi-dimensional hologram getting twitchy. Probably because it’s in the process of being shut down.

    Maybe it’s time for upgrades and a re-boot.

    Its definitely a strange reality we find ourselves in. An uncertain one at best, may God help and protect us!

    Happy Halloween everyone, I’m gonna go carve me a pumpkin, are those things still with us? Or did they get changed into watermelons or something, lol.

      1. Yeah I always remembered it as Cohen because they “had” the same Jewish last name as Lyor Cohen and I remember their name translating into Kahn and being a code name for Enoch.

    1. Hi, I remember Cohen also, if you’re talking about the filmmakers… However, if you’re talking about the band they are still the Cohen brothers. But I’m assuming you’re talking about the filmmakers by that name since I decided to Google it since I’d never heard of any brothers with that name without the H in it. That’s when I noticed that the filmmakers were definately Coen now instead of Cohen…. And funny thing is when I try typing Coen my autocorrect changes it to come or even corn sometimes….even my phone knows it’s wrong! Lol. Although it also changes definately to definitely but I force it my way because it’s what I’ve always known it as. Maybe the word definately was changed to definitely before the Androids came out with autocorrect but Coen changed after and that’s why it corrects it to something else but I can still type Cohen without issues. πŸ˜‰ haha or not, I don’t know how long its been coen for. That’s a new one for me.

    2. It was Cohen for me. I just watched a newer episode of Fargo from my DVR two nights ago. Great show by the way. It was a week old, and I’m pretty sure the name was still Cohen.

    3. What the heck is going on? I must be in a different reality; there are so many differences between what I know to be factual and what is now being reported as fact.

      It’s always been COHEN Brothers; the last film I watched where I remember that spelling is “True Grit” with Jeff Bridges; I love several of their films and remember their name due to that: True Grit, No Country for Old Men, O’ Brother Where Art Thou?, Raising Arizona &, of course, The Big Lebowski. I had not connected the Coen Brothers in one of the latest films, “Unbroken”, with the Cohen Brothers, I just thought the Coens were another brother team.

  27. So does anyone remember the Chinese moon rover Yutu?

    I do. I remember news reports on CNN of it dying during its first night on the moon. I remember reading articles online, on and Slashdot about how and why it failed, how they lost contact with it, about the interesting science it managed to conduct during its brief stint.

    It was dead as a hammer. Not immobile. Dead as a skipper on a cracker. They were never able to contact it again.

    Tonight I saw an article about Yutu breaking endurance records for operational lunar rovers, and how, even though it is immobilized, they are still in intermittent contact with it.

    I can’t find ANY of the articles I rremember reading. Not a one.

    1. Ima, I’m not sure this is Mandela Effect. Two points suggest that it’s not: First, Yutu was reported as “dead,” early into its mission, and it was without apparent power for at least two months. (Ref. and

      And second, there’s a “Jade Rabbit Lunar Rover” Weibo account (possibly more than one) that — from what I’ve seen, so far — sometimes posts humorous and ridiculous reports. So, perhaps hyperbolic humor at the Weibo account was picked up by Western journalists as something serious… and then those articles were deleted out of embarrassment.

  28. Does anyone remember a Snapple commercial from the mid 90s where there was a “river of Snapple”? It was one of the “made from the best stuff on earth” ads, with a rushing reddish brown river. I guess the idea was to show how natural Snapple was, found and bottled at a mystical river full of iced tea.

    I have searched the Internet and can’t find any reference to this commercial at all.

    This came up today when I was describing to my husband a river I visited in South America. I described it as looking just like the river in the Snapple commercials, and he had no idea what I was talking about. He watched a lot more TV than I did growing up so if it was a thing he should have seen it.

  29. Does anyone else remember from the 1990’s Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego character having a yellow trench coat instead of the red one?
    My friend and I both remember it being yellow and were shocked to see it red….

    1. I have heard about the yellow trench coat thingy too BUT that was** years ago**. Like I am in dejavu of sorts. This was brought up a while back along with “If you build it They will come”. (On a repeat)

    2. There were only 3 games on my grandmother’s old computer in the mid-1990’s and one of them was a game about a dog that you had to get this ball to in dangerous circumstances (a game I have trouble finding!), a geography game where you would fly an airplane to a destination, it taught you where countries were (I haven’t found this game since either) and Carmen Sandiego. She was definitely wearing a yellow coat in the game that I remember, my jaw just about dropped seeing her in the red coat. I was so, so, so certain about the yellow trench coat, I don’t know, I haven’t done much looking into it but maybe it was just the game I had or the coloring on my grandmother’s computer? It was all pretty old and hella basic, after all…

    3. Hi, Mo,

      As I read your post, I immediately brought her picture to mind (it’s automatic nature for me to do so), and it included a yellow trench. That could be argued reasonably as having been subconsciously influenced by the text one line down (referring to the red coat), except that when I got as far as that point in my reading, I immediately scrunched my eyebrows together in a feeling of mild consternation.

      I also remember some time around 2000-2002 seeing her in the red coat (my daughter’s video game (or games), and assuming that they had changed her coat.

      Thinking about it now, the feeling of familiarity and rightness of the yellow coat is fading a bit (if that means anything).

      1. Closeted team-E, I’m going to find time to tabulate past comments. The “fading” memory reference is a recurring one, and it’s a curious phenomenon. I’m not sure if it means anything, but the way it’s described seems to have an eerie consistency.

        And, from my own children’s games, I recall the yellow trench. The red is in there, somewhere (as a vague dual memory), but yellow was the color that came to mind as soon as this topic was raised.

  30. OK I did a little poll for my friends and EVERYONE remembers it the way it used to be…the questions were the Berenstein bears, Mirror mirror, Interview with a vampire, its a beautiful day in the neighborhood, Luke I am your father, Sex in the City…I asked about Don Rickles dying and none of them remembered that but I do but everything else we all remember exactly the same so…….I don’t know what it means……..when I looked up reality shifts before I read a article with the title “did reality reset after 9/11” I tend to think maybe it was around that time all this changed…….I dont know for sure but its worth thinking about……. I also get really upset with people just thinking I’m crazy or someone in this world is doing this, my sisters think someone is out there changing everyone’s Berenstein bear books and movies and stuff and its just not fuvking possible……. I think this has something to do with time or supernatural…… Its not a government conspiracy…….. Also I know people could quite easily say we all just misread The Berenstein bears and it was such a hard word our minds just called it stein when it was stain……no, who does that….. There are plenty of hard words to pronounce and read but BERENSTEIN IS NOT ONE OF THEM!!!!!!??????!!!!???!!!???
    I never had a problem reading it. Beren-stein
    The only problem I know all of us had was pronouncing it Stiiine or Steeen
    Not fn Stain, if it was actually Stain we would never even have the thought of pronouncing it stiiiine or steeen…….it would just be stain
    I don’t know I just feel like its our generation and before, our kids and a lot of younger kids are the generation who will remember it as Berenstain because that’s what they grew up with…. I feel it changed in the 2000s it had to…also I’ve been looking at maps and it does look really off to me but I’m not gona bet nothing on it cuz I never was good at geography but I seem to remember more continents and China and all that over there being bigger???

  31. Does anyone remember the dad from Everybody Loves Raymond dying a few years ago??? I just found out it was in 2006 and that is weird to me because I remember it only being a few years ago, if that!!!!!!! In 2006 I was pregnant and I was at home all day, I only had bunny ears so I watched the news channels everyday and I know if that had happened then I would have clearly remembered it being all over the news, as with the other deaths around that time but I for sure remember it being wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy after that, recently…….
    I remember thinking I wonder what all the actors are gona say and I remember thinking about the episodes and how he was such a asshole but I liked him
    I know it was way after 2006 and that’s just not right at all

    1. Kayla,

      I’m with you on this one. No way was it 2006. I would say 2010 ( there is that year , again Fiona ). 2010-2011 seems too have a lot of alive-dead -alive again celebrities. Mike H.

    2. Hey, my first celebrity ME! I remember Peter Boyle’s (Franks) death really recently. I’m a young’un, but I remember reading about his passing within the past year or two, on reddit specifically. In 2006 I would have been 13 and waaaay to self absorbed to even notice or care about his passing. Weird.

  32. I’ve only recently discovered this strange phenomenon over the past couple of days. Reading up on Tiananmen Square brought to mind the anime movie Akira, in the beginning of which I distinctly remember a scene showing the events that played out that day. I cannot find this scene in the film now, nor anything specifically about it.

    1. To expand, both my brother (who wrote a report on it in school a decade ago) and my uncle who remembers seeing tiananmen on tv both remember the man being ran over by the tank. I do as well and a couple of coworkers also.

    2. Chris, I moved your comments to the Major Memories section, since more people are likely to read your comments there than at the tinnitus article.

      I’ll also be interested in anyone else’s memories about Akira.

    3. Hey Chris,
      I am a big fan of anime in general, but I don’t have any memories of the Tienamen Square scene in “Akira”. This is a good example of a situation, and theory, I’ve recently run across.
      I have friends that are fans of “Star Wars”, and I was positive they would’ve been FREAKED OUT by the “Luke, I am your father.” scene. To my surprise, they weren’t. To make a long story short, they have been exposed to the “Star Wars” original trilogy, AT LEAST, once a year for over a decade. Logically speaking, their memories are more reliable because they are fresher, but ME isn’t logical! No matter how much logic you throw at me, I have certain memories I CAN’T write off as mistaken.
      In a nutshell, my memories of “Akira” are simply the current reality because of how often I am exposed to it.

  33. Saw one that really bothered me today. Maybeline is now Maybelline, with two l’s. It looks so off for me. Anybody else?

    1. Hi, Kaleb,

      Yes, I remember it as being Maybeline (one “L”) from childhood on (i.e.: since the ’70’s). The funny part to me is that I’ve driven past a Maybeline factory (or warehouse, or some such) more than a few times in the past several years, and never paid the place much attention — I don’t think that I actually bothered reading the spelling on the building, so although I imagine that I’ll notice it the next time that I pass it, I won’t know when it will have (already) changed.

      Who knows: maybe it _is_ Maybelline? (Bad pun, I know.)

  34. Few words about those Berenstain bears … I’m middle aged scandinavian man – and until
    I found about Mandeal Effect some 6 months ago I’ve had never heard about them – but in my understanding – the seriousness about spelling is like – if you wanna relate it so something more familiar

    is like MICKEY MOUSE – would all of a sudden schange to MICKIE MOUSE

    and i don’t wanna start anything new here – so (everyone ) take next statement as a humorous “interlude”

    BUT – I could almost swear that in the beginning (when i learned about it) IT WAS

    BAREN with an A in the beginning of the word also – (and that still never an issue) only the end latter section spelling…like it still is

    and greetings for our growing community members – in both worlds/timelines

    1. Hi Ilya,
      I use the Berenstain example a lot when discussing the topic with others. I’m not sure why. When I first came here I basically ignored the bears knowing I wouldn’t know the difference. I never heard of them ever and I had a child in the early 90s and had them reading everything. I do not recall these bears at all. I suppose my wife and I could have over looked them, but to have never heard of them or recognize them at all ??? I’ve hesitated posting this, as everyone else seemed to know them very well and I figured it wasn’t an example of the Mandela Effect, but me overlooking them.
      . . . I also have one specific person I’ve never heard of until the beginning of this month. A friend posted about her on Facebook liking a comment he made, and he made such a big deal about it I wanted to know who she was. So, I looked her up, and she’s so popular on Youtube, I keep thinking, no don’t post it, don’t embarrass yourself. And she’s damn good too. The thing is, I dont generally listen to that style music and she’s from another country. So, I may not have heard of her. But if I said her name, even the open minded folk here would think I lost my marbles. Then I’m watching a music special and who comes on?! She showed up again. Must be a coincidence … if only I believed in such things …

  35. I too remember the anatomy of the stomach looking quite different. I learned there were neat rows of small intestines going back and forth and I’m not sure about the large intestine going around the small ones, that doesn’t look familiar. Also I remember the heart looking different than it does now. Anyone else? Look up some anatomy photos of these organs.

  36. Got my T shirts yesterday. Been feeling really tired lately. I never sleep much. Automated humans inside simulations don’t really need sleep or food, but maybe not enough sleep. Maybe…

    Anyway, the T shirts are pretty dapper. I miss you folks. I’m on a self imposed ban of all media for the most part. Wanted to pop in, say hello and say thanks to all. It’s lonely for me in this new world.

    Got a blue Berenstein
    A grey Are you ConCERNed
    And a black Map one of Australia and New Zealand

    The globe stuff isn’t my thing at all. I suck at Geography, but I like that one for some doggone reason. Our mainstream media is just dreadful which brings me to my ME point. It seemed I woke up 4-6 years ago, and the entire world had become completely racially divided. At the same time, the bar for printing an article online seemed to drop precipitously, a deleterious effect in journalist integrity. I would click on an article with an interesting topic, and the write up would be 3-4 sentences with a misspelled word here or there. This was long before *I* ever consciously was aware of the ME, and I remember calling my best pal and sayin’ “Tbone, what the heck is going on in this world?” Now, I’m not so naive as to suggest that racism and poor journalism are new phenomena. I just remember that BOTH seemed to get significantly worse seemingly overnight. I also noticed the mainstream coverage of racial disharmony had taken on a distinct “race baiting” tone. I understand that racism is a sensitive subject. I’m a former athlete and soldier and I really don’t see color. Anyway, has anyone else woken up one day and noticed that the entire world they’d gone to sleep in seemd to have changed significantly overnight? I remember having these exact thoughts. At the time, I didn’t know what to call it. πŸ˜‰

    Warm regards,

    1. Jason your posts often hit close to home with me. I’ve had the same thoughts on the race issue. Obviously with our American history, this is a touchy topic, and there has never been true equality in the U.S. However, it seems to be a more volatile topic now than it did before, especially in the 90s, when it seemed like people were more accepting in general. Of course we had the Rodney King riots during that time, but his death sparked outrage in communities of all colors. We seem to have taken several big steps back.

      1. FJ,

        Firstly, thanks for your reply! I’m starting to feel as if I don’t even fit in here. That’s okay, bu it’s also extremely demoralizing. Then again, I’ve never fit in anywhere. I don’t do myself any favors in this regard. So, for me, it’s more then people being more vocal about their beliefs. Certainly plenty of racist people keep their thoughts to themself, or did. I wish I could put my finger on when, but at some point…yeah, I agree, we seemed to take several steps back all at one time. Warm regards, Jason

        1. Jason Thomas, I can relate to feeling like an outsider. I feel mostly alone in my world. And I’m certainly socially awkward. You are among kindred folk here, at least. Maybe we struggle because we are of another world. I’m not sure if that’s a comforting thought or a disturbing one, but anyway I get what you’re saying.

          1. I’m with both of you. I’ve never felt that I fit in, have always been socially awkward, and just feel like I have no idea how humanity works or why people do the things they do. I feel like an alien sometimes and wish I could find the mothership that will take me back to wherever it is I belong.

      2. Are you saying In your timeline Rodney King died when he was beaten? There were riots but not about his death, but about the police brutality. In this timeline, he survived the beatings and drowned in his pool in 2012, after an overdose of drugs and alcohol, and there was little outrage after that death.

        1. John O, the Rodney King incident is one I’ve seen mentioned in private comments, as well. FJ isn’t the only one to talk about King dying at the time of the police incident, in an alternate reality.

          1. Fiona thank you for posting that others share the memory of Rodney King’s tragic death at the hands of the police. I had no idea until this morning that events in this timeline were different. Knowing I’m not the only one with this memory both validates my memory, and helps me feel that I’m not alone.

        2. John I thought you must be joking. I can’t believe this. Yes, in my timeline Rodney King was beaten to death by the police. I’m certain of this. It was a big big deal that dominated news coverage for months. People wore tshirts with his picture and birth/death dates. I am completely shocked with this one. Completely.

          1. I wonder if that could possibly be why in this timeline things have gone backward…maybe in your previous timeline where King died it was a stronger impact on society and people worked harder to achieve better race relations.

            1. John O, I was thinking along those same lines. Maybe in that timeline where Rodney King died we really learned something as a nation. There was a feeling of unity in the 90s especially that is missing. Hard to explain.

              1. FJ, I agree. I keep looking at various decades and the theme/energy of each, and there seems to be a chasm in the recent timeline. Of course, I can explain it in terms of people working two+ jobs, long hours, becoming absorbed in social media, etc., but still… something’s odd. I can’t quite put my finger on it. It’s as if something should be there… but isn’t, and it’s difficult to describe what’s not there.

                1. Fiona, Something is missing indeed. In my home timeline (for lack of a better term) it extended beyond race. I didn’t notice as much religious intolerance (could be post 9/11 effect) or intolerance of homosexuals. I knew many openly gay people, raising families, in the 90s. Then it’s like that wasn’t ok for awhile, now it’s beginning to be ok again. Maybe it’s just that every bigot behind a computer screen feels freer to share their beliefs…but my feeling is it’s deeper than that.

        3. I always thought (I guess assumed) that he died. But I guess I can’t say for sure. I was very confused when I read that Rodney King died years later in a pool. I did ask my husband, “didn’t Rodney King die from the beating?”

          I knew nothing about ME at that time, at no point since finding out about ME attributed it to that until I read it here. It demonstrates to me how people can brush things off. I brushed this off, and probably other things as well.

          The Sublime song April 29, 1992 is about the Rodney King riots. It still has these lyrics:
          “Homicide, never doin’ no time” and “screaming 187 on a [email protected]#$% cop.” 187 is murder.

          1. I love that song! I knew the song was about the Rodney King riots I just never associated those lyrics with his death. I thought that the lyrics were just about anarchy, murder, and being outraged enough to kill a cop. Not that I condone any of those things.

            1. Me too, must have listened to it hundreds of times. It is open to interpretation, for sure. I think, not as much the homicide lyric, but definitely the 187 lyric could be interpreted as killing cops. I just really don’t think that song was intended to advocate killing cops. (I think this kind of ambiguity is what helps something like this stay the same, even if the event has changed. I consider it something like a relic.)

              I also think it is interesting that the date actually sung is April 26, 1992. What I have read is that it was a mistake, but they decided to keep it. It was also possibly the best take. It was recorded years after the riots. Possibly he was going off of memory, and he remembered it wrong or differently. I think people’s memories, their retelling of events, while fallible, are another kind of relic. I think that is why we have newspapers that say Berenstein and Chic Fil A, why I can still find websites and Facebook postings from people, even law firms and churches, that have written about third Thursday Thanksgiving. Facts change sometimes, and people don’t notice.

              So, whether or not Rodney King is actually a Mandela Effect, I just think it is interesting that when there is a world event with millions of people focusing their attention on it, the facts can start to get squirelly. I did just a quick google fact check before posting about this, and an article I found had a correction at the bottom. The original article had implied that Rodney King died. I think that is also interesting.

          2. Ann, I’m glad I knew about ME before learning about Rodney King’s death in this timeline. I was still seriously shaken up. Though I do wonder how many changes I’ve missed or just shrugged off in the past.

            I’m glad you brought up the Sublime song. It lists a bunch of cities where riots took place following the incident. It will be interesting to see if those riots still occurred in this reality, and if so, what local news papers were saying. I plan on looking into this.

            I also thought of the Ben Harper song “Like a King” (is the title referencing dying “like a King” meaning murdered like MLK Jr.?? The lyrics directly reference Dr King and Rodney King).
            From the lyrics:

            Make sure it’s filmed
            Shown on national T.V.
            They’ll have no mercy
            A legal lynch mob
            Like the days strung up from the tree
            The L.A.P.D.

            Is Ben Harper from the reality where Rodney King died in 1992? For me, the comparison between the Rodney King incident and lynching supports that idea.

            1. This is getting weird. I did hours of research last night, using all sorts of search phrases related to Rodney King. I couldn’t find references for any riots outside of L.A., when I clearly remember nation wide riots. In fact, the riots are now mostly called the L.A. riots, not the Rodney King riots. If someone can come up with anything, I would love to be proven wrong on this. Seriously. I plan to spend more time on newspaper archives, but so far I have only found references to L.A.

              I also noticed that the sublime song says April 26 1992. People say it was clearly a mistake, but maybe not. As an artifact/reality residue, it’s interesting that the title reflects the correct date in our current reality, but the lyrics sung didn’t change.

              1. Hi, FJ,

                Although I remember Rodney King surviving the beating, I also remember that the riots _were_ nationwide, not just L.A.-specific (what I mean is that I don’t have a dual memory of his dying and/or surviving, nor a dual memory of the riots being nationwide and/or not, but a sort of middle ground: a single memory that there were nationwide riots in response to the beating). I still lived in Brooklyn at the time, and things there got a bit hairy just then.

                1. Closered Team E, I’m glad you weighed in and I’m interested in hearing your memories about this. What do you make of it? I suppose I’m from a reality where he was killed and there were nationwide riots, you are from a reality where he lived and there were nationwide riots, and we currently both reside in a reality where he survived and the riots were confined to L.A. Or something like that.

                  At the time, did you feel that the riots were an appropriate response for the severity of what caused them (in this realty, the officers being acquitted on charges of excessive use of force and assault with a deadly weapon)? I don’t doubt your memory of the events, I am asking because I remember the officers being acquitted on charges of manslaughter, and the riots that ensued, nationwide, were fueled by an anger that seemed justified given the verdict. I’m not downplaying the seriousness of police brutality, but I remember an outrage more befitting of a man dying and the murderers going unpunished.

                  Of course when I found out a few weeks ago that Rodney King didn’t die, I also found that the riots in this reality happened in/around L.A., with (so far) no reference to riots elsewhere.

                  1. FJ, my view of the wave of demonstrations (including the ones Closeted team-E mentioned) that turned violent: At times, certain issues are like tinderboxes. I think that happens in many countries, but it appears to happen more in America due to the sheer size of the country and the communities within it.

                    At the time of the Rodney King incident, I can recall being irritated but not surprised.

                  2. Hi, FJ,

                    Ooh, a touchy subject on two fronts (aside from the question of interpreting the significance of M.E., there’s the whole race thing).

                    In the particular: Much like Fiona, I wasn’t surprised by the riots (it’s a reasonably likely occurrence, here [or at least in the reality of my memory]). [Edited.]

                    In M.E.: I keep switching back and forth; at one point, I’m certain that it’s Sliding between realities; at another point, I assume that I’m just nuts; next I’m guessing that it’s just the one universe, but that the data aren’t etched in stone. I’m torn between an intellectual certainty that this can’t be real (that it must simply be my faulty memory) and a clearly present statistical certainty that it is (there are way too many people with the same alternative memories — not just that some thing(s) was/were different, but that most of the alternative memories differ from “reality” all in the _same_ way).

                    1. Closeted team-E, this is probably one of the few times I’ll ever edit one of your comments. While I was nodding in enthusiastic agreement with what you said, I’m also certain the political references could spark misunderstandings and some off-topic rants, even from those who agree. The entire topic is volatile, and I’m trying to gauge the scope of related, alternate memories, while avoiding anything that could be misinterpreted.

                    2. Thanks Fiona and CLoseted team E. I certainly don’t want to start anything inflammatory. It’s really interesting how there are variations among those with alternate memories, both in remembering a different set of alternate memories, and the alternate memories themselves having variations.

                      CTE, I go back and forth too, though it’s never really doubt that this is happening. For me, I think I get used to the changes after learning about them, which in time brings a sort of ambivalence. Then, another ME will come along that rocks me to my core, and that always serves to reinforce my belief.

                    3. Hi, Fiona,

                      B*gger, you’re right — please accept my apology. In retrospect, this site’s purpose (and bandwidth) somewhat precludes its viability as the right place for my previous reply’s degree of detail. I’d claim an ADHD-moment, but that would be a cop out in this instance; really it was simply a matter of losing focus in an everyday-sense.


                      I’ll amend the edited-out portion to something like “…things could have gone better…“.

    2. Jason Thomas ,
      I’m standing here applauding everything you just said! I completely hear you. The media , entertainment (?), politicians, celebrities and whatever I missed. 2009 is when I REALLY started noticing all of these things, and it’s much worse now. Like you ,I realize these things have always been around. But it’s as If we went to sleep one night , and woke up somewhere else. Everything seems a bit “surreal” at times. Bizzaro World. Right is wrong. Black is white. Forward is backward. Great post. Let’s not forget Mr Stain’s cellphone comment. Had to say it. Mike H.

      1. Mike H,
        I’m laughing at your reference to Bizarro World, even though I know you probably didn’t mean it as a joke. I often think back to the Seinfeld episode that talks about the Bizarro World when I’m thinking about ME and how this all seems like a completely different and opposite world sometimes

        1. Skepticalbeliever,
          That’s funny, I love Seinfeld , and that episode always cracks me up. But actually , when ever I say that phrase , I’m referring to Supermans Bizzaro world. Everything is inverted and the opposite there. Kind of a strange concept, some of the things are mirror opposites, and some are actual opposites. Earth in bizzaro world is spelled htrae. For example. The mirror concept always intrigues me with patterns. Mike H.

    3. Hi, Jason Thomas,

      I dunno what to say that could help (core values, maybe?), but hang in there, buddy. Wall to wall M.E.O. briefings is the norm., here. Maybe you’ll wake up somewhere better, tomorrow.

  37. “[…]
    And if the band you’re in starts playing different tunes
    I’ll see you on the dark side of the moon.”

    Pink Floyd, Brain Damage

    I hope others can read between the lines of those lyrics.

    1. @Skepticalbeliever,

      I’m so glad that you posted this article. Please, everyone, note that this is not some crackpot person, it was noticed by an astrophysicist at CalTech. As soon as I heard this news on NPR this morning, I immediately thought of the ME and this web site because I believe a parallel universe is the best explanation for the ME. When I heard the news I almost had to pull over (I was driving). My mind was utterly blown; the quickening pace at which we are hearing about physical changes in our world and universe is staggering.

      Steve M.

  38. “Frequency” and “vibrations” keep coming up in comments on this site. It makes me think of that bizarre Dan Rather story from the ’80s:

    The Wikipedia link says the crime was “solved”, in that they think they’ve identified who one of the men was, but I’d really like to know who “Kenneth” was (Dan Rather’s name in an alternate timeline?) and what frequency were they looking for. A way to get back home, perhaps? *

    I mean, the most likely explanation is that the two attackers were on drugs, but it’s fun to speculate, anyway.

    *And that phrase brings up associations with Beatles lyrics, with “a way to get back homeward” tied in to sleeping…

  39. There is a thread on the Mandela Effect Reddit page where a few people are discussing the name of the brand Oscar Mayer. The poster seems to remember it spelt ‘Meyer’, with an ‘e’ instead of an ‘a’. If you had asked me to spell it, I would also say “Meyer” with an ‘e’. While the pronunciation is still ‘My-yer’, as one of the Redditors pointed out, isn’t the last name Mayer usually pronounced ‘May-er’? It’s pretty odd, and ‘Meyer’ definitely feels right to me, but I’m not ready to say for sure that it’s a Mandela Effect. Thoughts?

    1. Interesting. I recall only Oscar Mayer, and that was reinforced by the commercial that spelled out the name, M-A-Y-E-R. (I can still hear it in my head.)

      But, playing (mischievous) Devil’s Advocate here… what if — around 1964-65 — lots of people came through to this reality with the “Meyer” spelling in their minds? And what if the Oscar Mayer commercial folks decided to nip that confusion in the bud with a commercial to emphasize this reality’s spelling? Here’s the old commercial- (it’s catchy, and at several YouTube locations).

      1. Fiona,
        I too went immediately to that song in my mind: “My bologna has a first name, it’s O-S-C-A-R, my bologna has a second name, it’s M-E-Y-E-R……..another A vs E scenario? I TRIED singing it the other way, with the A, and it just doesn’t sound or feel right…..I am not as convinced of this as I am of Berenstein…….but…..whoa. My last name begins with MA, so I think I would recall this.

  40. OK I didnt know where to post this but I’m watching 17 again And she just said “no he got a job at Home Depot”
    There was no THE IN FRONT OF IT
    Lol so just letting y’all know…I remember it as Home Depot too

  41. I vividly remember Betty White dying last year…
    I remember I was in History class at the time, watching the news for the day on CNN.The news anchor Carl Azuz did in fact announce something along the lines of ‘Betty White has died–the last of the Golden Girls is Gone’.
    When I got home to go on Facebook, it was on the trending topics and there were even videos of her speaking on her death.

    Now I’m hearing she is alive and well…….. Call me crazy but she definitely died in my timeline lol.

  42. Hey,
    Anyone else think Narwhals where either extinct or mythological?
    Apparently not.there is footage of them alive swimming in packs.When I saw it I thought it was a joke,it felt like I was seeing a unicorn.
    Deffinatley a strange one, either I was very uneducated or something’s up.I feel like at some point of before now I should have come across this amazing animal in photos or information at a zoo or something…
    There is a buzzfeed article on it and people swear In the comments they always knew about them…

  43. This doesn’t really prove much but, this morning on “Fox and Friends” around 550am central time, Steve Doocey one of the hosts said “mirror , mirror, on the wall, who is , the fairest of them all”. He was referring to presidential canidates. I guess it proves he is “one of us”. ? Cue the “Twilight Zone ” music Fiona , lol! Mike H.

  44. This comment is for everyone.

    Further comments that focus on health issues (physical or mental) without a clear connection to the Mandela Effect, will not be approved.

    It’s a legal issue and it’s about staying on-topic.

    Examples of what can and can’t be approved:

    1) A comment including descriptions of physical or mental symptoms the person has. Then, the person muses that — because other comments describe items on that list – they’re a sign that someone has alternate memories.

    That won’t be approved. Why? Because over 80 comments at the Tinnitus article (and I have no idea how many among general comments) and the results of the one-week survey have raised enough questions. Several good point were made, but with few useful conclusions.

    2) A comment describing tinnitus in relation to a specific frequency that’s also connected to folklore or science and time travel or dimensional travel.

    That will be approved. Why? Because that kind of comment would suggest that the frequency is already documented. Also, its context — whether it’s mystical or under scientific investigation — may related to the time/dimensional travel aspects of the Mandela Effect.

    So, it’s supported evidence with a clear connection to the Mandela Effect.

    Any comment describing health issues — diagnosed or not — will not be approved. Other sites are far better equipped to host those conversations and provide real answers. Those topics include anxiety, depression, ADD/ADHD issue, MPD/DID, and “lost time.”

    The Mandela Effect isn’t a mental health issue. I’m concerned that recent conversations may have lost sight of that.

    In fact, any mental health complaints mentioned here give skeptical critics further credibility when they claim we’re delusional or “just confused.”

    So, from this point forward, any comment that includes personal health topics cannot be approved; it will be deleted. I’d love to have time to edit-out the problematic passages, but I don’t.

  45. Ok Fiona… WordPress is acting up again…. there use to be a place on the right hand sidebar that listed recent comments… today it’s not there… New comments on page 13 are again before 5 others sticking to the bottom…


    I started to sing the Oscar Meyer song before I read your comment…. my Bologne has a first name it’s o s c a r…. my Bologne has a second name it’s m a y e r.

    My auto correct does not recognize … bologna. Which is how the Oscar Meyer jingle ends.

    1. ayla, I’d removed the recent comments list to keep the sidebar shorter. I’ll restore it in a minute or two.

      The comments problem…? Yes, it’s WordPress. What can I say, except that it’s free software and one of the best platforms available to webmasters. So, for now, we cross our fingers and hope they resolve the comments problem. Or that someone produces a great comments plug-in that helps, but doesn’t slow down the website.

      Thanks for the update… and the smiles about the Oscar Mayer song!

  46. This is very weird, i know i mentioned it before, but i am re-watching some videos, criticism of films, and i have noticed Minor changes in the videos that i am 100% sure were different. just little things extra lines, while it may be my memory, but there are too many changes for me to ignore it. Has anyone else found that..

    1. I agree, Martin. Individually, none of them have been big enough to mention here, but it’s always enough for me to wonder how many films I see that were quietly re-issued with directors’ changes. (I’ve done the same thing with a few of my books, when I later found typos I just couldn’t live with. However, I didn’t want to make the re-release into a big deal, drawing attention to the earlier flaws.)

      1. Even old videos like from the nostalgia critic where he critiques a nostalgic films on youtube he rips into some of the films (non pg), there are lines he says that i dont remember, he is talking about the older films as well.. at first i thought it was just my memory, but theres just too many to discount. my memory isnt that bad.. and the youtubes he has on arent reuploads which makes me go HUH.. the movies he talks about is pre 2005 ish, am wondering if a LOT of movies changed slightly,could be re release, but.. its weird

        1. Ooh, I’ll have to take a look at some old films with critiques. I used to watch those, often, but… okay, it was so long ago, I’m not sure I’d be sure if something had changed.

          Of course, this gives me a fun idea (not easy, so I’m not likely to do this, but still… fun), with iRiffs that — as the film is played — point out what’s changed in each one. (Ref: )

          1. it even changed a day later.. there was a line in the Steel (film) critique, i happened to watch it again on a play list of his the day after.. and the line he said about the film had changed, but i knew it changed then the original line faded from my memory but i remember thinking to myself its changed.. Now it is i remember the effect that “something changed”, rather than the cause “the line itself”.. it did weird me out.. but been watching your tubes a great deal just incase things change and some have.. and since its about media and films, which there seems to be a lot of changes in that field.

        2. Martin and Fiona ,
          Just thought I would throw this out there. My personal opinion? Is that Google’s AI project is further along than we think. After watching these search engines and YouTube do all kinds “odd” things the last 5-6 months , I’m more convinced. I think someone or something is “self correcting” people’s searches and videos. I’ve noticed strange things with comments appearing,, disappearing, and reappearing not written the way they were originally. Including mine (not here though Fiona ).

          I want to mention this for those curious , Cicada 3301 in my opinion was used to get AI programmers/designers/developers to work for Google or the government (or both , it’s hard to tell them apart anymore). I don’t want to start a discussion on them, this probably isn’t the place for that. Just wanted people to be aware. Like I said , I have been watching the search engines and YT for a while. Mike H.

          1. Thanks, Mike H, and you’re right about this not being the place for that discussion. However, I’ll admit that I’m far too close to getting up on my soapbox about that exact topic.

            Meanwhile, I appreciate the time you’re putting into this kind of research, and your insights are always helpful. Thank you!

            1. For me its reality is changing, in micro ways.. a line here a line there, something we normally wouldnt notice, unless there are a lot of us remembering the same change, sex in the city.. how many other changes we have just missed because we havent been concentrating, I know even in normal tv theres moments where i go. HUH.. thats not right.. then oh it is.. then its scratch head and go on, because it had not large impact on me. Something like Luke i am your father.. its more recognisable as its an iconic line.. what are the other lines, has other lines in star wars changed and we dont notice it because its not an iconic line.. (and i know about the lucas re releases and change of stories and the alterations), but talking about minor things that doesnt have an impact.. reading books, i read them and entire chapters, paragraphs have changed from what i remember, Hell even entire storylines change from what i remember.. So its more to do with reality changing for me,

              1. Martin,
                I agree with you on this. How many small changes have we missed? Personal, and public ones. Micro changes is a good name to call these. I have started noticing a lot more of these lately. It’s as if the “marker” changes (the big ones), worked , and caught some of our attentions. In other words, the markers did their job, maybe?? We all noticed, like we were supposed to. Now we are aware. Not trying to be religious or spiritual(which is fine for some, just didn’t want to go down THAT path, lol) but maybe something is trying to tell us something? Or makes us aware of something. Just thinking out loud. Mike H.

          2. Dear Martin and Mike h.

            This is all very intriguing is there a webspace or Reddit forum where we could discuss this line of theory without mucking up dear fionas’s spot??

            I was looking at some of my yt spots from a few days ago that I watched to see if I could spot any glitches… honestly I’m not sure… I’m going to try several experiments the next several days and see if there are changes.

            1. Well, yes, there are several Reddit sub-groups related to the Mandela Effect. Some even use the name. I’m not in those groups, but they seem very active.

              However, if the topic you have in mind is about minor and micro changes in media (especially films and YouTube) — what we’re noticing, not conspiracy-type theories — I’ll happily create an article for those conversations. I’d keep the focus narrow, with specific references, such as exactly what seems to have changed at a certain (noted) time in the film or video.

              But, if that’s of interest to others (besides me), I’ll create the article on Monday. Or sooner, if I just can’t stay away from this site. LOL

              Update: I spoke with one of my children about this, and she mentioned micro-changes made when programming goes to Netflix, as well. (Her example: The opening of the first American Horror Story episode — twin boys, house, little girl — and, at Netflix, a brief shot was cut from right before the opening titles. It’s an essential shot that hooks viewers; I can think of no reason to remove it, and many reasons why it must be there.)

              While this isn’t exactly Mandela Effect, if we can keep it contained at one article, I’d be very interested in how much seems to be Mandela Effect, what isn’t, and how this might be affecting how readily we accept changed realities. That dances very close to conspiracy theories that I’d like not to pursue, but if we can document what changes — and (Mike may smile at this) any patterns — that could be a useful adjunct to our regular Mandela Effect conversations.

              1. ;)—–smiling as I read. Patterns. Still looking for the ultimate one. Although I realize , that may never happen. But, it’s all about the chase to me . Mike H.

          3. Hi, Mike H.,

            I love Google, but I’ll still chime in here. Google’s heuristics have shown some insanely “intuitive” predicting of late.

            While I read through the various posts here, I often Google one item or another (I can’t simply assume that my memory matches reality anymore). The topics range across everything discussed here, which I’m sure you know jumps from one thing to another totally non-linearly, even within a single entry — yet Google often offers what I’m typing within the first two or three hits, even when I’ve typed in only three or four letters.

            Were I searching common interest items (some latest fad, or big news, for example), this would be entirely reasonable. Were I searching some particular topic, and had been for a while, then I could see Google picking up on my specific search trend of the moment and narrowing things down quite quickly. I don’t recall which surprisingly good predictions its offered me so far, but they’re as unlikely as if I were to search “Joh…” and have it offer me articles about “Johny Mnemonic” or “John Larroquette”.

            I doubt that this is the case in fact, but I’ve been getting the weirdest impression that Google’s responding to M.E.-related searches more quickly and usefully than any other searches I might normally run.

            1. Ooh, cue the Twilight Zone music! And yes, I’ve been noticing a rapid response to my M.E.-related searches, too. Almost like they were watching what I was looking at, at this site, and anticipating what I’d check, next. (Not that this sounds creepy or anything… LOL)

    2. Martin, I have been noticing a lot of dialog changes and different camera angels going on as well. As you probably know, I’ve been watching (studying) Voyager. Season 3 Episode 8&9 Futures End I viewed a map of the world with a North Pole, Australia was low and alone… by the time I pushed rewind most of it changed. You can still see hints as it blurry now. Last I looked it still has Russia and Alaska further apart then shown on today’s map. There are other things, too minor as Fiona mentioned.

      High Definition looks very different from what I remember. Granted I dont watch a lot of television but HD reminds me of old soap operas. I know that’s not a great description, but, presently its all I got.

      1. Yes Anthony, its so strange, 24 hours, even minutes later things change,, even our memories arent that bad.. (i am 42 so a little memory loss is normal). It has become somewhat of an obsession watching and listening to the same things to see if they change..

    3. I’ve noticed scenes missing from movies, like scenes that were my favorite part of the movie and just don’t seem to exist anymore.

  47. Okay, am I the only one that remembers Meatloaf dying like 15 or so years ago? I love the movie Formula 51 and I remember thinking, while watching it, I’m so glad he got to at least do this movie before he died. Now I’m hearing radio commercials of him doing a concert, and it’s blowing my mind. I’m not 100% sure that he died, but the memory is strong enough that I was actually shocked when I heard the radio commercial.

    1. I have a recollection of Meatloaf dying. I wasn’t a follower of his music, except for the one hit, but I do recall him dying probably awhile ago (after you mentioned it here) …

  48. I don’t know if this one has been mentioned or not yet – but Oscar Meyer is now Oscar Mayer – like John Mayer the singer πŸ™‚ lol. One friend within the last month sent me a link to the Life cereal commercial with Mikey has changed – he went from “he likes everything” to “he hates everything” after that I sat around and watched some more classic commercials. At that time it was Oscar MEYER. πŸ™‚

    1. Hi, Stephanie White,

      OMG — I didn’t want to bother mentioning the old Life cereal ad.s because I was sure (even now, after having been on this site for a month) that it had been just me not quite hearing the actors’ words terribly well. I’d swear (not just then, but to this day as well) that they had said in the ’70’s “He eats anything”, which had made no sense to me (since it provides them no surprising contrast to Mikey turning out to like Life), but which just didn’t seem to be any other wording.

      It was only in the past year or so that I’d run into “He hates everything”, at which point I immediately assumed that that must have been what they’d said back in the ’70’s as well — especially since that cleared up my long-standing irked confusion over their wording of back then. This was also the lion’s share of my not having posted about it myself.

      I admit that strictly your post doesn’t mean that I hadn’t misheard them poorly in my childhood, but even if it’s simply that, or a re-wording later in the ad campaign, it’s still a soothing relief to see that I’m not the only one to have heard that (or rather, something similar, since your wording was somewhat different from mine: “He likes everything” vs. “He eats anything”).

      1. Stephanie White and Closeted team-E, this is fascinating. I mean, it would make far more sense if people mis-remembered lines from commercials (lyrics, etc.) in ways that made more sense than the originals did. (And, yes, in the 70s, it was “He hates everything.” I don’t recall hearing anything different, ever, in the realities I’ve been in.)

        So, when I see people agreeing on alternate memories that would be difficult to acquire, I’m very interested.

        I think that when most people hear something that doesn’t make sense or fit the context, they go back and say, “Wait, what did he/she/that say…?” And, they get the line clarified. (Before the luxury of the Internet and YouTube, this usually involved pausing all conversation the moment the related commercial was on the TV or radio, again.)

        The old Life cereal commercial wouldn’t make any sense if Mikey didn’t hate everything. No one would gasp in awe when he actually liked Life cereal.

        So, while I can see an erroneous memory standing out as “that never made sense,” the popularity of the Life commercial makes it seem — to me, anyway — an unlikely “mistake” to make. Not impossible, and I suppose the likelihood varies with how many times the person was exposed to the commercial, and how young the person was at the time, or how much attention was paid to commercials.

        Still, seeing more than one person with this alternate memory makes me note it something of increasing credibility. And, as something very odd.

      2. Closeted team-E,

        I remember it as “he eats anything” in the 70s as well. I remember one boy saying “Give it to Mikey” and another saying “Yeah, he eats anything.” I read about the “he hates everything” version, but I could never make that work with the rest of the conversation that I recalled.

  49. Hello everyone. That you all for your great contributions. Incredibly interesting discussion!

    I wanted to add another memory to the list that I hadn’t seen listed. In 1987, I was in 8th grade and I distinctly remember Jon Bon Jovi in an interview on MTV saying that he liked both men and women. I remember it so clearly because I watched MTV’s top 10 videos every night and one of his videos was #1 at the time. The day after his announcement, it wasn’t even in the top 10. I remembering thinking how ridiculous it was that his sexual preference mattered. I also remember commenting to people a few years later, when he did the soundtrack for Young Guns, about how no one cared anymore about the interview. I also have many other memories of conversations about this in high school, years later.

    I was excited to ask people at my 20 year high school reunion about this in 2012. No one remembered! Not even the people I had conversations with about it so many years earlier. I just found out three weeks ago that my mother remembers it happening as well. She was so happy that I remembered, because she thought she was going crazy. My father and brother don’t remember this happening. Does anyone else remember this?

  50. Hey, I’m a scientist and feel I should chime in here (By the way, sorry if this is posted twice, I find this website a little confusing!)

    A lot of you are trying to explain away the thoughts you have, but something you’re all not taking into account is coming from the assumption that we ARE in merging universes.

    Assuming this were so, lets take for example the discussion about the memory of the hot air balloon: One of your “alternate yous” in one of the several universes could have had this balloon experiment conducted on them, maybe even knowingly. But when their memory merged with your’s it only left the faint idea of a balloon ride. If this experiment was conducted in several universes on different people, then statistically a lot of those will overlap. In one universe it may even be that the experiment was very widely conducted (not this timeline, obviously.)

    You are potentially picking up the memory of an alternate “you.” Or at least that’s one explaination you all seem to be overlooking πŸ™‚

    I feel like here is a good a place as any to expand on what I think is happening here. I lot of people are mentioning CERN, that is one possibility. CERN are actually currently conducting experiments to create new “universes” which propogate in their own space-time, or at least to form tunnels into other universes. Just so you know they recently ramped up the power of CERN, they turned it off in March 2013 for maintenance and to increase the acceleration power of CERN to twice what it was before, it reopened in 5 April 2015 and has been breaking power records ever since.

    I don’t want to go into too much detail as you can just read on Wikipedia or whatever, here’s the relevent section though (The reference to “TeV” is basically just a measurement of power, much like Watts (W) when talking about lightbulbs):

    “At 1200 BST on 30 March 2010 the LHC successfully smashed two proton particle beams travelling with 3.5 TeV (trillion electron volts) of energy, resulting in a 7 TeV event. However, this was just the start what was needed for the expected discovery of the Higgs boson. When the 7 TeV experimental period ended, the LHC revved to 8 TeV (4 TeV acceleration in both directions) during March 2012, and soon began particle collisions at that rate. In early 2013 the LHC was deactivated for a two-year maintenance period, to strengthen the huge magnets inside the accelerator. Eventually it will attempt to create 14 TeV events.”

    Just a quick pointer: CERN is currently running at 13 TeV and has been since May 2015. Now, for two objects as tiny as a proton this is a tremendous amount of power, like two jumbo-jets colliding head-on at 500mph, and this happens around 1 billion times a second. I also really want to point out that what CERN is doing is something that happens ALL over the universe naturally, inside stars, collision of cosmic rays with our atmosphere, all over the place. If CERN is accelerating the process in anyway it’s most likely a drop in the ocean. But, of course, I don’t actually know this (no-one does) it might be only CERN that’s causing this, but to be honest if we don’t find out then we’re never going to know the truth, and the only way to do that is to experiment…

    Anyway, what does all this boring science have to do with anything? Well, in the scientific community the concept of parallel universes is pretty well accepted, and a lot of important theories actually hinge on it. For example: we have NO idea where gravity comes from. The current most plausible theory is that it’s a force that’s “leaking” from another universe. One of the main aims for the LHC is to actually connect to another universe by making a black hole inside the reactor so they can try and prove this theory (they will see gravity moving out of our universe into another). They have been actively trying to do this since October 2015. So far they have not been able to make one, but that doesn’t mean that the experiments are not having an effect on the universe.

    (I really hope this science isn’t boring to read! Please feel free to skim over!)

    Ok, so there is another important theory: “false vacuum universe” which holds that this entire multi-universe is inside a temporary “bubble” (much like the bubble formed in say, a pot of boiling water). This bubble could expand/shrink/collapse at any time, literally it could just “pop” and we would all cease to exist (fun to think about huh?)

    Anyway, what could be happening according to (and I want to stress these are) MY thoughts are as follows:

    The multi-verse is all contained in this bubble, like when you see lots of little bubbles inside a big one? (There are countless trillions of these things…) And occasionally one of these bubbles will merge with another. Now what I think happens is events go into a quantum state where only one of them can occur (remember SchrΓΆdinger’s cat? It’s both dead AND alive until one event is chosen.) So what happens is one of these events are picked, lets say there is a universe with “berenstein” and one with “berenstain”. The important thing to remember here is before merging BOTH are correct in each universe, but when the 2 universes become 1, ONLY one “quantum state” can be picked. In this universe it was “berenstain.” WE also merged with our “other” selves, and the same thing happened in our brains, but either because they are so complex, or perhaps there is some kind of “spirit” some of us remember BOTH as our memories merged! Some of us will only remember a memory from universe “a” OR universe “e”, perhaps we have stronger memories of a perticular letter in one universe or perhaps we don’t exist there (never born or we died perhaps.)

    Anyway, imagine this happening over and over and over again, we could be in a universe that’s a merger of millions of universes by now. So far with just small changes, like “tunes and “toons”, “fruit or froot”, “definitly” or “definatly” and EACH time a merger occurs ONLY one of those states can exist. That’s literally a quantum principle. That’s why there is no physical evidence left of the other state each time, because it’s completely destroyed in the process, as if it NEVER happened. The only thing left is echos of memories we’re not quite sure about. I also believe the universes are very similar to ours because they would likely be nearby eachother. By the way, if we merge with a universe where it was named “toons” there is a chance it could switch back (if it wins the quantum coin toss) and apart from vague memories some of us might have, no-one would even notice. People will argue with you till they are blue in the face that it was spelt “tunes” and they will be labeled as the crazy ones!

    But… and here is the big but… If we assume the multiverse is shrinking, it’s pushing all the universes together, and as each merger happens there will be more “difference” between each next merger. We are starting to see things already like shifting countries: New Zealand was once above Australia AND below it in two universes, but now it’s ONLY below. The decision to build a bridge to Staten island or not was decided yes AND no, in two different universes, they merged and now it’s only “yes.” People who have died or not (remember, that’s likely what happened so some of your other “yous” as well, that’s why we can’t remember everything: in some universes you died, but when you merged you got the lucky “quantum bullet” and the event that won the coin toss was the one you were alive in…!) I’m sorry Angela but your Grandad’s Kellogg’s image has disappeared in a puff of quantum smoke, only the memory is left, so hang onto that… Your only hope is that we merge with a universe which still has your Grandad’s Kellogg design in it and it wins the quantum coin toss.

    Now, these changes are only going to get faster and more intense as more universes merge, and more and more people are going to start noticing. It’s a process that is likely to accelerate, once something like a bubble starts to collapse there’s nothing that can slow it. We literally can’t do anything about this, except count our blessings, and hope that when we merge with the universe where Hitler won, that the coin toss favours the Allies…

    1. Excellent comment, Fleecemaster. Thank you for taking the time to post it. I’m sure it took considerable time and thought.

      And, as an aside: for years, I’ve been speculating about gravity and what’s “leaking” in and out of our reality. I did a quick check at one of my other sites, and — in 2007 — I’d proposed that EMF spikes aren’t necessarily ghosts. In that short article, I’d mentioned the gravity issue.

      Also, I’d replied to one of your later comments before realizing you’re a scientist. That helps me (and, I’m sure, others) put your choice of words into a better context. Thank you.

      This comment did show up twice, once at the newest Comments page and once at Comments page 10. I’ve approved this one and let the other go. This site can be very confusing, as it was designed (and was very tidy, back then) for conversations about a single alternate memory, and possible theories. In the past year or so, I’ve been trying to keep it better organized, but it’s like the dilemma (or dilemna) of Wile E. Coyote and the Roadrunner: I’m never truly one step ahead. LOL

      My next project will be a redesign of the Possible Explanations page and comments. And, once it’s (massively) updated, I may move this comment to that topic. I’d started with the idea that the conversations would be fairly basic and not of much interest to readers. I was just a teensy bit wrong. (Yes, that’s sarcasm. I completely underestimated some of my readers.)

      1. Yeah, to be honest it’s no surprise people didn’t realise the scope of this. For decades I’m sure people have just kept brushing off the thoughts as “Well, that doesn’t seem right, but I must have just remembered it wrong.”

        If you would like me to expand on anything from a scientific point of view then let me know, my field is actually in Chemistry, but there is a lot of overlap between Chemistry and Physics, and I know a lot of people that go to CERN to conduct experiments (we use the radiation from the LHC to analyse chemicals, since it produces the most intense radiation beams in the world. Keep in mind there are something like 30,000 colliders in operation around the world, used by many areas of science, but these are 1000s of times less powerful.)

        What I find most interesting is the dates of these memories… A lot of people seem to be around my age (born in the 80s) or they have memories of changes around that time. This would suggest there were a lot of shifts around the 90s, one would presume yes? Well, the first accelerator to go over 1TeV collosion energy was in 1983 (the Tevatron at Fermilab.)

        Energies have been increasing slow and steady since then, until a jump in 2010 when the LHC was opened at CERN, running at a massive 7 TeV. “Almost 4 times more than the previous world record for a collider.” This ran until 2013 when it was shut down for planned upgrades. It reopened this year in April 2015 for test runs, reaching 13TeV (the current world record) by May 2015 and has been running continuously since June 2015 at this speed. I just want to add here that these accelerators run non-stop, that’s 1 billion collision per second, every second, 24/7 for year upon year. The LHC will be upgraded again (planned for 2022) and the Chinese are planning to build a collider to be complete by 2035 which will be a “super collider” reaching energies of 70TeV and up (it will be twice the size of the LHC).

        The reason I wanted to point these out is because if it *is* being caused by colliders, then it would be interesting to match up when large numbers of people have their “time slide” and if it matches up with these numbers.

        I have noticed a lot more people talking about Mandelas happening in the last few months, which is when the LHC started running at it’s new higher energy. This could simply be because of the recent Buzzfeed article or all manner of things, but I would plead with you Fiona to get as much information from people about the times that these memories are from, and when they noticed the change (the slide would be between these times presumably), so it’s possible to match up and prove to some extent if these occurrences are related to the colliders (preferably before the Chinese build there’s…!)

        Just a small additional note (honestly I can’t help it I love science and could talk about it all day!)
        If the false vacuum theory is correct (they are currently testing for this, so we should know soon) and we are merging with other universes (and the timeline of those universes) then the merge will occur from the point of origin (that’s where the “pin” pops the bubble from) and this merge will move through the universe from that point at the speed of light, merging the timeline as it goes. The theory is that usually when this happens it could be billions of light years away from us so we wouldn’t see the change for a long time. But… If the LHC is causing a large number of mergers, then the point of origin would be on the earth itself! So with the merge happening at the speed of light, the two earths would be merged in less than a second (light takes just over 1 second to reach the moon from earth!) The point I’m making is that from our perspective the change would happen pretty much instantly (which is what it seems most people observe). Of course I want to point out that whilst a lot of what I’ve written is from scientific evidence, many of the conclusions are my own, and may not be proven either way for a while, please don’t take everything I’ve written as fact! Go and look it up yourself too, it’s always good to have multiple sources!

        Another tiny additional note…!
        I feel like I should crunch some numbers for you guys, I hear a lot of times “this occurs naturally all the time from cosmic rays so it’s nothing to worry about!”
        Hmm, well… does it?
        Lets take a look shall we? We wouldn’t want to get our facts wrong now would we? I’m going to try and simplify the numbers as best I can whilst still keeping their accuracy (so I’m going to write everything in TeV, as it’s a number you can relate to my above post.) If you want more info and depth there is plenty out there πŸ™‚
        The highest ever recorded cosmic ray was 300,000,000TeV (300 million TeV)
        This is very very high, yes, but it’s not taking into account the high mass of the cosmic ray, and mass is very important! A mosquito travels at 1TeV when in flight, and I can’t see a collision with that doing much more than a small bite…
        So, if we want to compare it to a proton (as used in a collider) it would be equivalent to: 750TeV.
        This is still way higher than the current running speed of 13TeV, but I want to point out two things: A particle at this energy has only ever been seen about 16 times, whilst the LHC makes 1 billion collisions per second. Also the speeds of acceletators are constantly being improved, and with new supercolliders being built in the next few decades this number is very likely to be reached and potentially surpassed.
        There are naturally occuring particles called “neutrinos” that have higher evergy than these, but they almost never interact with other matter (no collisions).
        Cosmic rays with energies above 125TeV are still very rare, within a 3 year period whilst trying to detect them only 27 were found.
        Most cosmic rays lie between 0.00001TeV and 0.01 TeV (the same as an average collider, and that’s without taking into account the mass difference.) There are millions of particles at this energy hitting the earth every second.
        If you take into account collisions across the whole universe however then there are a lot, but if an event occurs billions of light years away it would take billions of years for the “reality shock wave” to reach us, of course… Also that’s not to say that this hasn’t been occuring naturally for billions of years already… The real question is, if this is causing universes to merge, are particle colliders accelerating this change?

        For further reading check out the “fermi-paradox.” It’s an observation about the apparent lack of alien civilisations, even though the likely-hood is that there should be multiple millions even just in our own galaxy. One theory is that all intelligent species at some point develop a technology that unwittingly destroys the whole species. In the past, people thought it might be nuclear weaponry, what if perhaps it’s actually particle accelerators?

        Food for thought indeed! πŸ™‚

        If this forum allows links to photos, here’s how to imagine our multi-verse, each bubble is a universe, and the walls between each break and merge they become an amalgamation:

        Anyway, thanks very much for creating this website Fiona! Hopefully as a species we will get to the bottom of this! Honestly I hope it’s just some strange phenomenom of memory that just hasn’t been brought into the light before, rather than the multi-verse collapsing… but either way that it is great progress to have this out in the open to talk about πŸ™‚

        1. Once again, these are absolutely brilliant insights, Fleecemaster. Thank you! And I agree — whether it’s emerging memories or merging/collapsing realities — it’s an adventure and we’re here to experience it. Scary, maybe… but fascinating.

          1. Fiona,
            Kathy’s Norway spiral date is of great interest too me. That is the exact time frame for me that these ME’s started really becoming frequent and obvious. I have said a lot of time’s on here, I have noticed for 30 years , but since late Fall of 2009 is when it just snowballed. I knew about the spiral , but never put the two together.

            Fleecemaster , is there anything about that date ??? Anything you could share , I mean ? I’m all ears on this one. Mike H.

            1. Hey Mike,

              I thought I was replying to your question but I actually replied to Kathy below, who basically asked the same question, so have a read of that! πŸ™‚

              In short though: The LHC turned on in 20th November 2009, and the first runs of +1TeV where from the 30th November onwards.

              I do however feel that the Norway spiral, even though it occured at a similar time on the 9th Dec 2009 was simply a failing Russian missile and the proximity of the dates was just a coincidence.

              The dates are interesting though, especially seeing all the very recent reports and also so many from the 80s, I might have to do some proper date checking…

        2. Fleecemaster,

          Your posts are very interesting.. I especially find your knowledge of CERN fascinating .. I know this is old news, but do you believe there is a possible connection between the Norway spiral and CERN? .. Many people are theorizing that it might be a portal into another dimension or some evidence of time travel being conducted by CERN on the date 12/9/2009.

          I found this web site about the spiral with some great photos and theories about what it might have been.

          I never did buy the official version of it being a Russian rocket gone astray… If that were true spirals like this one would be a much more common occurrence.

          I would really appreciate your thoughts on this.

          1. Well I’m afraid you’re not going to like my answer!

            I remember when this happened, and I looked into it a lot at the time because it was such an interesting occurrence! Unfortunatly I’m very certain that it was just a malfunctioning Russian Bulava missile.

            The reason it’s not a common occurrence is because first of all, missiles aren’t actually fired that often. Usually only during testing (as this was) and this particular missile was malfuctioning often. The second is that the missile has to fail in a very specific way to create that effect, so the chances of it occuring are actually very rare indeed. And obviously it also looked spectacular so it captured the imagination πŸ™‚

            The website you linked mostly just posts cave paintings of spirals, well, the spiral is a pretty common shape, it reminds me of those who look for triangles everywhere, we can see things in everything if we look hard enough πŸ˜‰

            There’s a lot of stuff on that site about hearing strange sounds. Without looking properly I wonder if that would be of interest to Fiona and her tinnitus investigations.

            Here is a 1 minute video showing a computer simulation of how the spiral could have been created:

            Also here’s a picture of a trident missile failing in a similar way:

            The Bulava missile happened to fail at a much higher altitude.

            Also it is very unlikely that time travel is possible. The LHC happened to turn on for testing on 20th November 2009. Which is obviously nearby in time but I believe this was just a coincidence. If the time-shifts are related to the LHC then at least the Norway spiral is a nice way to pin-point the time in people’s minds πŸ™‚ Also the Norway spiral has only occured in this fashion once, so wouldn’t be able to explain why there seems to be several periods of time-shifts, and also why we wouldn’t have seen more of them, especially now the LHC is running as full power.

            I’m trying to keep as scientific as possible, I’m not dismissing that it might be a time vortex, but the evidence suggests it was just a missile failure. A wormhole/portal thing likely wouldn’t look like that anyway, and if that was the LHC that caused it then they would certainly be trying to do it again!

            1. Fleecemaster, I’m going to play a little Devil’s Advocate here, and I hope you’re not offended. (And, in some areas of science, I know just enough to be dangerous. LOL)

              Of course, I agree about correlation – coincidence – cause issues. And, a single event — the Norway spiral — provides too little data to work with conclusively, regardless.

              Also, I agree about spirals in ancient artwork, up to a point. In many cultures, spirals seemed to suggest the passage of time, or the Sun, or the passage of time as marked by days (suns).

              And then there are the issues of sacred geometry, which relate to the Fibonacci sequence, and so on. (Ref: )

              So, for me, the Norway spiral photos are fascinating, but have so many “normal” explanations, I’m not ready to leap on the Norway spiral as anything more than a pretty image. (I’m willing to be very wrong about that, if later/additional evidence makes alternate explanations more plausible.)

              However, assuming time isn’t real but more of a filing system we reference in relation to events, I see no reason why time travel isn’t possible. Assuming the reports that I read were real — and I have no reason to think otherwise — if we’re talking about space-time, that barrier has already been compromised. I realize that teleportation isn’t the same thing as returning to history to see the pyramids being built in Egypt, but I think it’s in the same very general ballpark.

              I’m interested in whether you think the Mandela Effect involves parallel realities running on the same schedule/time track, or if it’s possible that some are ahead of us or behind us… if that’s even relevant if events happened in different sequences, in different realities. For example, if the Americas weren’t explored by Europeans for another 100 or 200 years, and research was about sea exploration, instead. In that reality, we might have had a “Wild West,” but no history with Jamestown, Plimoth Plantation, and even no American Revolution.

              Or, the American Revolution might have occurred far later, and triggered a much later French Revolution, and so on.

              Finally, the question of what a wormhole/portal would look like… that interests me. Aside from the black void image we see in sci-fi presentations, what might a wormhole/portal look like? And, is a wormhole (or portal?) different from “down the rabbit hole” and different from cross-reality transfer/access points?

              1. Fiona, Much of science and meta-science contain postulates that are simply stop gap arrangements.Arrow of time is agnostic with fundamental laws of physics,and that is because time is such a postulate,a stop gap arrangement.Carroll suggested a way to manage this virtual entity called time,if you beat time it will hang you,but if you are friendly with time,the time will cooperate to any extent,you can remain at current date for as long as you like,and if you are a real pal time can take you back to whatever period you tell it.This is what zeno effect is about and time travel as well.

        3. Fleecemaster,
          Thank you for providing such amazing insights in your recent posts. It is both encouraging and enlightening to hear theories on this phenomenon from a scientist’s perspective. I agree with much of what you propose is happening, and especially find the points about
          CERN to be very eye-opening. I have always felt since discovering this topic that their tampering with the universe and reality is highly connected to what many of us are experiencing with ME. I’m also intrigued by the dates when major tests were done and how this coincides with shifts or major ME events.

          1. Thank you! I’m just glad people read and enjoyed them! I was worried it would be too sciencey and boring for most people. I’m used to writing scientific reports, but this is very interesting, and I felt that a good strong description of what’s going on with the LHC and our current understanding of the universe would help put things into perspective for everyone πŸ™‚

            1. Fleecemaster, don’t worry. Most of the “regulars” at this site are eager for scientific insights.

              Personally, I’m fascinated by the “how” of this, since I believe that can point to the when/where/why, and so on. But, then again, I’m a science geek in many ways, and Doc Edgerton is still among my heroes.

            2. Fleecemaster,
              I don’t find your posts to by too sciency or boring at all.
              I am interested in your thoughts on the recent ‘fata morgana’ phenomenon. Three of them occurred the same week that CERN starting running at the higher power levels. Some readers here feel that the recent images look different than other ‘fata morgana’ pictures out there. Was CERN successful in opening a window to another dimension? I’m curious what the scientific community is saying about this, outside of the media.

        4. To add some cosmic balance to your scientific conclusions the channel Bashar had been talking about the splitting of worlds since the 80’s as well as other channels. Thier basic premise is that the years from the 80’s up until now represent the Nano Second, a window of time where you will be able to shift earth’s, after 2019 this window closes and your pretty much stuck on the earth you vibrate with. And the are literally an infinite amount of other parallel earth’s. By Bashars message is that its not CERN or the government it is you through titt conscious

          1. I’m not quite sure what you meant by “titt conscious”, but having a look at Bashar it seems to be related to a “mind over matter” situation.

            I’m not ever going to dismiss anything like that, as there often isn’t a way to disprove it, but I tend to stick within scientific means because it’s a way to “ground” observations to evidence that can be studied.

            The really interesting thing about the scientific method for me is that anything unfalsifiable cannot be tested by the scientific method, and therefore cannot be said to be true or not, at least by this method, such as “Is there a God?” I think as we approach more barriers in science we may well find more and more things which are untestable by science. Then things will get really interesting πŸ™‚

    2. This is a great post. It’s interesting that you mentioned a universe where Hitler won since there’s a show coming out about that, I don’t know if that was intentional but if you don’t know about it the show is called The Man in the High Castle. It’s quite a coincidence that a show about an alternate reality is coming out right when large numbers of people are starting to notice changes (I know it was a book before, but I still think it’s significant that it’s coming out as a show right now). Another coincidence on tv is the show The Flash, which began with the explosion of a LHC type facility, featuring time travel and portals to other universes as the main topics of pretty much all of its episodes this year. Oh, and the time travel created an alternate reality. I’m not sure, but I think TV shows can be an indicator of what’s going on in reality, there are just way too many coincidences.

      1. I have heard of “The Man in the High Castle” but I haven’t read the book, sounded interesting though πŸ™‚ I tend to play a lot of war-games based on alternate histories “Axis&Allies” for example, and also WW2 is close to my heart, which is most likely why I picked it, just to show the potential major consequences, assuming of course this is what’s happening.

        When you talk about alternate timelines “Back to the Future” comes to mind. I would be careful though, people have been writing about time travel way before even the first plane was made.
        An example from 1895:

        There are lots of things we can attribute to literature, because generally most things have already been imagined. Nothing is wrong with that but it’s good to keep science and science fiction within defined boundaries! Coincidences seem to occur often because of the huge number of random variables available, and unfortunatly picking out only a certain few is what’s referred to as the “cherry picking fallacy” and is something we always have to watch out for.

        I’m not trying to be rude here by the way, I’m just assuming you’re genuinely interested, if so I would highly recommend this 15min video, he explains it very well from a scientific viewpoint! πŸ™‚

          1. I would say this was a mixture of coincidence and “Hindsight bias.” A lot of things like this are made for their entertainment value, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but I would be careful not to read too much into them πŸ™‚

            1. Science is supposed to be based on testing, but unfortunately it’s actually based on theories, you talked about gravity earlier. The whole heliocentric model is based on gravity. Nobody can tell what gravity is because it’s not real. Trying to prove a model of the universe based on something that doesn’t exist sounds to me a waste of time and efforts.
              You seem to be a nice person, but as a scientist you are just unable to prove gravity like anybody else. Unless you are open minded enough to try to explain the universe in a complete different model. I don’t know if you have ever heard about the concave earth model, but i recommend anybody to research it.
              To me the mandela effect is a manifestation of our consciousness shifting, by quantum leaps, through an infinite planes of existence. Our consciouness being our experience in a single plane. All the datas from everybody’s consciousness in all the planes being stored in the akashic records. For some reason some people’s memories are out of sync with the akashic records in their current plane of existence. Like anybody here i’d like to know the how and why.
              Sorry about my terrible english, my native langage is french.

              1. marc, your English is good enough to convey key concepts, and I appreciate your insights about concave Earth, and so on.

                The gravity-related portion of your reply to Fleecemaster is a little problematic, and — to me — seemed a little insulting, but I’m approving this (and asking Fleecemaster to understand) because I think it’s a language issue, rather than your intention.

                1. I never meant to insult anybody. I do respect any individual’s beliefs. But we are talking about ME and to me it’s a major step, to realize we are in a created world.
                  The elite is doing anything to brainwash us because they know the truth about our universe.
                  The mainstream science is trying for 500+ years to make humanity believe we are living on a spinning sphere (pear shape recently) revolving at 1000Mph at the equator and at 66600Mph around the sun. Because many people are starting to realize, thanks to the glitches, the so called Mandela effect, that we are living in a simulation. A simulation obviously generated by a creator, then instead of thinking we are insignificant beings on an unsignificant Earth in an infinite universe, people will understand the purpose of our life.
                  I guess scientists would think i’m insulting them, but i am really not. Their knowledge is based on a wrong model of our universe. If they can’t fight their ego to know the truth, i can’t help them. Most of the people here are obviously open minded, so i really hope they understand how important is the Mandela effect. It’s about awakening, the elite is gonna have a hard time to prevent humanity to be free now. They have enslaved us for too long, they got 99% of all ressources while they represent less than 1% of humanity. This is a fact not a theory. I don’t want people to believe me, i want them to research and find out by themselves. The more you research any topic, the more you understand how wrong is the mainstream.
                  The Mandela effect is a very good example, the mainstream will call us crazy. They will mock us, discredit us. Here we can discuss freely about this phenomenon, with no fear to be ridiculed.
                  If what i’m saying helps even a single person, i’ll feel proud. I thank everybody here for sharing their own experience because it helps me to be a better person.
                  And a special big thank you to Fiona, for this site.

  51. Mystery Science Theater 3000 used to be Mystery Science Theater 2000.

    I don’t know if this subject has been discussed here or not but I just found this being discussed on another ME forum… I know for a fact, as do several of my friends, that when this show first aired it was called MST 2000, not MST 3000… Now there is no record of it ever being MST 2000… The WIKI article about it claims that the show started as just Mystery Science Theater and then became MST 3000 shortly after that, but there is no mention of it ever being MST 2000.

    Does anyone else remember it as being Mystery Science Theater 2000?

      1. Thanks Fiona .. I didn’t know if that subject had been discussed here already.. I find it very strange that there is no record of it ever being MST 2000… Just one more thing that’s strange on a very long list of strangeness.

        As for slipping in and out of this reality, there are people who believe that Fruit Loops changed to Froot Loops recently, then went back to Fruit Loops for awhile and now has changed back to Froot Loops again.

        Wouldn’t it be awesome if the reality so many of us remember came back again? … I doubt that will happen though.

        A lot of changes in our geography has been discussed here but the strangest one for me is Cuba being twice the size it used to be… Same for Alaska … Not only did the shape of the West coast of Alaska change but it’s much larger than it used to be.

        1. Kathy – It was absolutely MST2000. I’m in Minneapolis and was a big Joel Hodgson fan back in the day. Before MST2000 we used to go see his comedy (with props) show regularly. I was pretty disappointed when he stopped doing stand-up, but MST2000 was a fun way to still see him. I don’t really remember when it switched to 3000, but I have a vague recollection it was when Joel left the show.

        2. What, specifically, changed with Alaska? My family is from Kotzebue & I’ve spent a significant portion of my life here; to me, the norther portion, around Point Hope & the area north of Nome look odd.

    1. Yes! The theme song says “In the not too distant future” which made sense, watching it in the 90s. When it switched to 3000, it didn’t make sense anymore. The year 3000 is really distant!

  52. In Disney’s 101 Dalmatians and the books, I remember Cruella’s name spelled as either “Deville” or “DeVille.” When you start a Google search, autocomplete comes up with “Deville” but Disney websites and Wikipedia show the name spelled as “De Vil,” which simply looks wrong to me.

    Amazon and EBay have numerous items spelled as “Deville,” or “DeVille,” and there are large sections in Pinterest, Photobucket and Tumblr under “Cruella DeVille”:

    There is a “Cruella DeVille” fanclub (whose members one would assume would know how to spell the name):

    The following are Google Trends search results for both “Cruella Deville” and “Cruella De Vil”, both of which are spiking in mid to late 2015:

    So this may be another example of either a mass misunderstanding of how the name is propoerly spelled or perhaps something else.

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