Red/Blue Alternate Memories

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Lately, I’ve noticed an interesting correlation emerging in some alternate memories. It’s the mention of red and blue. The colors might be prominent in the memory, or they might be what changed between realities — what was blue elsewhere is now red, and vice versa.

I might not pay so much attention to this, except that it echoes the red/blue references in The Matrix. I’m always interested when alternate memories seem echoed in, or coincidentally related to, pop culture or the arts.

If you have alternate memories that relate to red and blue, or if those two colors seem curiously important in an alternate memory, I hope you’ll share what you recall — and any insights you have — in comments.

66 thoughts on “Red/Blue Alternate Memories”

  1. I recall a comment from an earlier thread on this site, but I’m not sure where I saw it. I think it was under “Possible Explanations”, and possibly it was posted by Daniel. Anyway, his post included a link to a post from the David Icke forum that I found very intriguing. One of the most interesting aspects of this particular comment on the Icke forum was about the red and blue colors on the Chevron sign changing or reversing, and that this sign was some type of guidepost or marker to identify an alternate dimension. I believe it also mentioned Walmart signs with red lettering instead of blue also being a marker of sorts. I wonder if this maybe has some connection to the red/blue alternate memories being described by some.
    Next mission – go back and see if I can find the post I’m referencing

    1. Skepticalbeliever , we are thinking along the same lines. Never put much thought into this, I’m a hesitant believer, but the Red-Blue thread made me remember this. Glad it wasn’t just me. Interesting topic. Mike H.

  2. Not a memory, but I just watched a Santos Bonacci video called “the lamb of god” where he mentions red and blue being used as basicaly the coding of the universe; working in complementarity (red, blue; good, evil; god, devil; yang, ying; hot; cold; sun, moon; etc.) in esotheric teaching. Those colors are also important in freemasonery.
    Also, the people claiming to have found artificialy-made fibers responsible for the morgellon disease describe them as being red and blue under the microscope.

  3. So interesting this topic has come up now. I have a very recent, specific example.

    The office where I work is rather small, and we all have assigned parking. Until recently, I had a very distinctive older model, tan, Volvo wagon. Another girl in the building has the exact same vehicle – same year, etc. – just in red.

    At first, it caught my attention because of the vehicles’ similarity. Then I began to notice that sometimes she parked right next to me, and other times, she parked two spots down. Odd, because, like I mentioned, we have assigned, paid-for parking. I shrugged it off thinking maybe she was in a hurry and hadn’t looked at the numbers (Which are painted rather large on the ground, btw.), and didn’t think too much about it.

    Then, on September 29, I got to work a little early, and was siting in my car getting ready to go into work. The owner of the other Volvo pulled up in the spot next to mine, and her car was BLUE. My mouth fell open, and I must have looked like a crazy person just gaping at her.

    I waited for her to go into the office, and then I got out of my car and circled hers. SAME car. Same year, same dents, and still dusty, so obviously not a new paint job. It was a weird blue color, too. Like, grayish, lavender-ish, almost, but definitely BLUE.

    I was obviously flummoxed and talked about it to my closest ME confidants over the next few days trying to come up with some sort of reasonable explanation, to no avail.

    And then.

    The day-before-yesterday (October 12) when I came out to the parking lot at lunchtime, the car was RED again.

    (As a quick aside: For whatever it’s worth, I don’t recall *exactly* what the Volvo logo on our cars used to look like, but it’s certainly NOT the Mars/male symbol I see now.)

    1. Phoenix, I agree that the blue-ish grey color is somewhat atrocious. I remember the Volvo logo because my dad had one as well. It did not have the male symbol previously. (One of those specific to me memories)

      1. It had the word “VOLVO” in band format across the circle, just not a circle with the male sign attached as is currently.

  4. Red/Blue List…there seems to be so many and I am sure I have a thought/analysis to present but short on time at the moment.
    A few things immediately recalled:
    Blue on top of red for Pepsi
    Red on top of blue for Chevron
    My gym card was reissued with blue(2015) versus red (issued In 2012)
    Walmart signs blue v.s. red in past (marketing change?)

    On 02/15/2015 Jade mentioned the following on ME site which seemed to explain why I went through a period of trying to figure out why cold was coming from the hot water faucet:
    Jade15 February 15 at 8:15 pm
    Yes! Now that you explain it, I have this memory too :). Funny how it slipped by so unnoticed. But yes, I distinctly remember hot (red design/logo) on the right hand knob and cold (blue) on the left knob at my old house.

    Notes from journal:
    1.Morpheus to Neo
    Blue pill- “the story ends . You wake up in your bed and believe what you want to believe”
    Red pill- “you stay in wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes”
    Producers really captioned this scene as it illustrates a dual concept/paradigm

    2.Shifts can be due to perception. Whether something is red/blue can depend on where the are situated or their perspective. Yesterday I was looking at the paint color beach glass by Benjamin Moore because I saw how much of a pretty Tiffany colored blue it was. However, when I picked up the swatch in the store it was with the green family but looks blue in the sun and daylightning.

    3. Beef patties by Tower Isles is now in a blue box instead of red and yellow

    Yellow and green, as mediators, seem to indicate a shift from red to blue or blue to red.

    Primary color RYB are now RGB due to pixels. Never knew this color combination growing up where red and green would make yellow.(could be just me)

    1. Daniel , I don’t think it’s “just you” , in regards to the colors. RYB vs RGB. I was taught RYB. Red plus yellow make orange. Yellow plus blue makes green. And blue plus red make purple. Is that how you remember it?? Mike H.

      1. Daniel a little more. This is what I was trying to get at months ago in a post. Analog versus digital. Natural versus artificial. AI vs. EI. BERENSTAIN vs BERENSTEIN. Mike H.

        1. Hi Mike,
          I think I am just now understanding the link between analog/digital, AL v.s. EL. Sounds like you are having one of those experiences where you have been expressing this for months only for someone to come and post like new. The classic “I have been saying that for months/years/decades” :}. Sorry about that. I guess when the student is ready. (I should go back and see if I missed something. Im sure I have)

          To answer the prior question, I only remember the combos R&Y= O, R&B= Purple, and the like. I didn’t come across the RGB thing until reading what that poster put up on the Icke page that is now being referred to. It made me actually look at the Chevron sign–“Hey that’s not right”.

          Back in 2002 I had like a month long craving for Pepsi and so when I looked at the current can it elicited another “hey…….” moment and that when I posted it here.

          1. Daniel,
            I think your further along this path than me , maybe even further than you yourself realize. After reading your posts , your not a student , that’s for sure! I think you understand the analog/digital. For example your 432 hz. Analog warm, natural . 440 hz. Digital cold, artificial. The tinnitus and frequencies , you might just be on to something with this.

            EI (Berenstein) emotional intelligence —-human. AI (Berenstain) artificial intelligence —-something else. Markers. The EI world (analog) seems like the one I remember , warmer, people were nicer, they even looked in your eyes. The AI world (digital) seems like it’s some kind of “bizzaro world” to me. Things that used to be wrong are now right and vice-versa. It’s so strange (foreign) to me sometimes.

            There are patterns ( or sequences) to the ME I beleive. Years, numbers, words, people, geography,colors. Somehow I think they all tie together. How they do is anyone’s guess. I hope this isn’t too far off the scale (even for me), but these are the angles I keep thinking about.

            Mike H.

            1. I think there is a push for 432 hz, which I translated as cold and digital. The note for A is/was 440hz from what I have found so far which corresponds to the prior analog age. Will keep researching this.

              The current push of 432 is “suppose” illicit a warmer sound…but it has not come out that way for my ears.There was one video I listened to where a guy quizzes you by playing the same music in 432hz and 440hz for 5 different songs. I got 4/5 right for 440Hz sounding more richer, fuller, and natural. I guess it can all be really sketchy though…

              1. I took that test last night and came out the opposite way… I preferred the 432 Hz sounds. It does mean something. My dad grew up addicted to radio and transmissions… it’s what he has done from the air force through his career… I would ask him because he would know for sure but my mom’s in hospice care and it’s not a good time. I will in a few months though

              2. Hi Daniel-

                In response to the dialogue about 432 hz vs. 440 hz., I actually heard the opposite. 440 hz was only introduced last century as a universal tuning (note A is tuned to 440 hz w/ modern tuning standards). Prior to that, most western musical tuning used a standard of 432 hz. It is also called “Pythagorean tuning”. As I understand it, 432 hz mathematically follows patterns of nature & the universe, etc. and cymatics testing has shown that 432 hz based music/vibration creates a beautiful symmetric shape when played on a plate of fine sand whereas 440 hz tuning produces a less shapely, more distorted pattern. Considering frequency and vibration are supposedly the key to everything, I find the cymatics results the most interesting in regards to the frequencies used to tune by. Of course, any information found online could be fabricated results, so considering I have not done my own experimenting, I’m open to being wrong here. There are many theories as to why the tuning was changed, and I won’t go into that here as it meanders into conspiracy territory. 😉

                Checkout: cymatics and Pythagorean tuning

        2. I don’t know where your original posts on this are, but I had a few thoughts on the analog vs digital, so I’ll just chime in here.

          I have been dabbling a bit in both film and digital photography lately, and a big frustration with digital, even with cameras that cost thousands of dollars, is that they can’t handle dynamic range like film can, meaning that they blow out the highlights abruptly in the bright areas of the image very badly. Most people put up with it and go to great lengths to avoid strong highlights, though some consider it a fatal flaw in the technology. It is really annoying though, because if there is some sun hitting the subject in just one spot, it will be a bright white spot in the image. Film, on the other hand, handles this well, rendering the highlights, and with only the very brightest areas, fading gradually to white. The sun in a digital image is usually just a white ball, but in a film image, it is often golden yellow or orange. Compare that to how people describe the sun now, vs how they remember it used to be. Just something to think about…..

          Another thing….colored shadows. I was never aware this was possible and discovered them this year, while in my home, under lighting conditions I have seen many times before (a blue tv screen when the tv is on, but the movie or show is over). It made bright yellow shadows on the wall. I thought I was tripping (though I’ve never done drugs) or having a seizure or something. But no, it’s just science.

    2. RYB vs RGB is because of the difference between additive and subtractive light. Red, Yellow, and Blue are the actual primary colours in the physical world and are used when you paint with actual paints. The colour wheel with paint does go Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, then back to Red. Green cannot be made without mixing Yellow and Blue.

      The way colour works when you look at an object is that (sun)light contains all colours, and when light hits an object, most of the colours are absorbed. Only the wavelength of light which is reflected off the object is the colour seen by our eyes and the colour we call that object. This is subtractive light because most of the colours from light are being absorbed, or subtracted, from our view.

      Now, you get RGB when you go to additive light and digital painting and colours. When you look at a computer screen, you are not seeing the reflection of light, but the screen emits its own light. Therefor the rules are very different, and almost opposite to actual paints. Combining Red, Green, and Blue light will give you a white light, whereas combining Red, Yellow, and Blue paint will get you a dark, muddy grey or blackish colour(depending on the purity of your paints). I have only ever seen RGB used in digital media and never in physical paints. Even when you are printing a digital painting, it needs to be converted to CMYK, which is C for Cyan (Blue), M for Magenta(Red), Y for Yellow, and K for Key, which controls the amount of Black.

      I am an artist who has worked with both physical paints on a canvas and digital painting on the computer, so I know both of these well.

      The other thing is that the cones in our eyes which detect colour only detect the colours of Red, Green, and Blue. This might be why monitors are set up with only these colours but I am not sure. but here is a really good video explanation of it, the first half is explaining yellow, the second half is more unrelated things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3unPcJDbCc

  5. I’m not sure if this fits what you are asking. When I was little, my Grandmother bought me a NEW box of Crayola crayons and an Alice in Wonderland coloring book. I’m guessing around 1986. After I finished coloring Alice’s blue dress, I asked her what I should color her skin with. She pulled out the flesh color crayon and showed me the name. I very distinctly remember the word FLESH on the new crayon. I apologize if this is the wrong place to comment as it also has to do with the flesh crayon memory but what triggered it was reading in comments 9-10 last night and remembering very specifically coloring her BLUE dress.

    1. Alice in Wonderland definitely had a BLUE dress. My mother made one for me just like it, someone said it’ll go with her blue eyes, but my mother said, no, she actually has very beautiful green eyes.

  6. Fiona , my posts for this date on the page 11 comments got me thinking. It’s out there ,so bear with me, hopefully I make sense. The red-blue Pepsi logo, Daniel mentions Pepsi in his “Back to the Future” comment. A long time ago, I read somewhere that Chevron logos and Pepsi logos were used as” markers” for whoever to know which reality they were in. Red on top in some universes, and Blue on top in others. I know it sounds crazy but what the heck , thought I would put it out there. I saw this years ago, way before Mr. Stain made his famous ( infamous) comment lol. I just assumed it was someone who was a bit further out there than me. But who knows, interesting story anyway. Mike H.

    1. Mike, partly for other ME readers and partly for myself (in case this becomes a separate article):

      Some (not all) of Daniel’s earlier references to the Pepsi logo and a few of his Back to the Future notes: 28 Mar 20151 May 201512 Oct 2015.

      I have no idea how much of the red/blue issue is significant, how much is the extended effect of deliberate easter eggs, or something else. No matter what, the speculation is fun.

      Also, apparently the new logo has deeper references: “The new special design represents magical secrets such as the earth’s magnetic field, feng shui, Pythagoras geodynamics, the theory of relativity, and the golden ratio.” That’s from http://gnosticwarrior.com/pepsi-logo.html, which led me to this: http://www.goldennumber.net/wp-content/uploads/pepsi-arnell-021109.pdf. The latter is the paper to browse. Wow. I think this is going to lead to another article…

      1. Fiona , thank you for those links. The second one is pretty eye opening. And your initial post with the link to David Icke forums, is the one poster I was referring too. I have said numerous times 2009 was a very defining year on my list. The year where everything just started snowballing, it’s when I noticed the geography, the same year as the poster in the Icke forums. Time to me has sped up to the point of years blending together since 2009. And it’s not because I’m older. To me that argument makes no sense at all. Mike H.

  7. It’s strange that we associate blue for boys, and pink for girls.

    Blue should be associated with Girls – Eve relates to water.

    Adam is associated with Red, the Red Man.

    1. Fascinating, JM! I didn’t think in those terms, but I’ve always preferred blue to red, when selecting clothing and decor colors. (That may be a simple personal preference, but I find the Eve/water connection interesting.)

    2. That’s a fairly recent development, according to what I’ve read. It used to be exactly the opposite. (The following is copied and pasted from another website)
      From Smithsonian.com:
      Ladies’ Home Journal article in June 1918 said, “The generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls. The reason is that pink, being a more decided and stronger color, is more suitable for the boy, while blue, which is more delicate and dainty, is prettier for the girl.”
      In 1927, Time magazine printed a chart showing sex-appropriate colors for girls and boys according to leading U.S. stores. In Boston, Filene’s told parents to dress boys in pink. So did Best & Co. in New York City, Halle’s in Cleveland and Marshall Field in Chicago.
      In the 1940s manufacturers settled on pink for girls and blue for boys, so Baby Boomers were raised with wearing the two colors.

      (Back to me) Interesting mention of Eve. Mary, the mother of Jesus, is usually depicted wearing blue. Jesus is usually depicted wearing a white robe, but with a red sash (or whatever that over-the-shoulder thing is called).

      1. So this is not so much Mandela Effect as related, interesting history.

        When I was younger, and read the Little House on the Prairie books (multiple times) I always noticed but never understood the way the Laura *hated* being the one always dressed in red, because it went with her brown hair. Mary, her blonde haired older sister, got the blue. There’s an incident in one book where their mother, in a rush to dress them for going to town, puts the wrong ribbons in each girls’ hair, and Laura spends the trip enamoured with the blue ribbons.

        As an adult, when I learned about the switch from pink for boys and blue for girls, that suddenly made sense to me. Laura was resisting being dressed in the “boy color”, or more specifically was upset at the way her older sister was groomed to be and praised for being the ideal sweet, delicate, mannered female.

  8. Astronomers measure how cosmic objects are moving in space by measuring Redshift and Blueshift in light waves. Here is an oversimplified version:
    Redshift: moving away (from us)
    Blueshift: moving towards us

    The shape of the light waves are determined by the direction the object is traveling. The traveling object causes changes to the light waves, which we perceive as red or blue, depending on the direction relative to us the object is traveling in.

  9. Along the lines of blue and red, I find it interesting how the rainbow has lost a color. I’ve even seen “scientific” explanations for Indigo’s inclusion in the rainbow having been because of Isaac Newton’s fascination with the occult and the number 7. But the Indigo of my childhood, the one that has been dropped from the rainbow, wasn’t “just another purple” as I’ve heard it dismissed. It was an actual blue-purple, a blending in between blue and purple. That color doesn’t seem to exist anymore, Indigo has lost its purple tones.

  10. Hello again Fiona. Another interesting place the colors are found is TV news programs. The intro scenes usually have red or blue circles and rods- rotating, spinning, and moving around all over the screen. This is normally when the announcer says “channel 9, for news you can trust.” I think it’s strange that they all tend to follow this similar pattern.

    I apologize if this sounds conspiracy theory, but it almost seems like a kind of hypnosis. Especially when some channels even use a 10 second countdown graphic in their intro. But perhaps there really is something special about these colors and the mind. I’m not suggesting mind control, but a definite connection of some sort.

    We also find the colors throughout the program, used in the various banners and tickers. If you’ve never noticed the intros, please look at a few videos. It seems to be worldwide, major networks and local stations alike.

    1. Great observation, Michelle! It’s one of those things we get so accustomed to, I didn’t even think of it until you mentioned it. Fascinating!

    2. This is something I have noticed as well. The reds and the blues on the news channels are so vibrant, so in-your-face, and the graphics are so over-the-top. Is it just to grab you because we now have so many devices competing for our attention? Or is it something to put you in a more receptive frame of mind?

    3. The colours used in a news intro animation, as well as those used in a news ticker, generally seem to correspond to the colours in the flag of the country which their respective news station resides in. For instance, cbc’s ticker is red and white, fox news has a blue and red intro animation, and CCTV English, being based in China, has a yellow and red colour scheme. It’s not a conspiracy; it’s just patriotism.

      1. Leugen9001, please provide a link (or links) to support this. Otherwise, yours seems like a needless trivialization of Michelle’s point. As I read her comment, I believe she was raising the question of media being used to affect our memories (present or past) via news reports.

        From my observation, most TV news logos reflect their related stations’ logos and share the same colors. If I’m wrong, post links. At the moment, I don’t see a clear link to their respective nations’ flags.

        For example, RT (formerly “Russia Today”) uses the RT logo for their news. It’s a green logo, but the Russian/Soviet flag is red, white, and blue.

        Colombia’s flag is red, yellow, and blue. However, a quick survey of their TV stations show a wide array of colors.

        And, in your own location, Canada (unless you’re commenting via a proxy), I don’t see red & white (Canada’s flag colors) predominating in Canadian TV logos. In fact, one of Canada’s leading news stations, CP24, uses black & white. (Ref: http://streema.com/tv/country/Canada )

        If the colors did always (or nearly always) reflect the respective nation’s flag colors, that’s interesting but not Mandela Effect, and misses what I think Michelle was saying.

        But, despite the reference to CCTV English (China), I don’t see a clear connection between news stations and their national flags, which makes yours look like a hastily constructed theory.

  11. The first thing that popped into my mind when I saw the name of this article was the term REDSHIFT.
    I am not a professional in what I’m trying to explain nor a native speaker so please don’t pin me down on anything.

    Our universe is constantly expanding, causing everything to drift apart from one another. So the light that travels from other stars and galaxies towards us is being stretched, resulting in a longer wavelength which means it appears shifted to the red end of the spectrum. (e.g. a star that we should perceive as yellow, if we were to observe it in rest, actually appears as rather orange because we are moving away from each other.)
    Now there is the possibility of other parallel universes which behave differently from ours. There could be universes that don’t expand at an increasing rate like ours does, but rather expand at a decreasing rate to a point where they no longer expand but diminish.
    So in a universe where everything makes towards anything else and space is being compressed, so is the light. Meaning that the wavelengths are being shortened and light appears to be shifted to the blue end of the spectrum. (e.g. a star that is actually yellow would appear rather green to us because we are approaching each other)

    So what I’m trying to say is that maybe shifting from one expanding/redshifted universe/reality to another decreasing/slower expanding/(comparatively more) blueshifted one could impair your visual perception generally. However, that would mean your entire perceivable spectrum would be shifted to one end (i.e. red) or the other (i.e. blue) and that your overall vision would be red- or blue-tinted. (And maybe even that you can see in the infrared or UV range respectively.? not sure about that) Yet,that would not really explain red and blue being swapped.

    I can’t say that has anything to do with this, since I personally can’t recall any red/blue alternate memory myself. However, I believe in parallel universes / multiple realities and that you can shift between them (as I can relate to some other ME instances). So maybe this is an approach someone else can carry on further.

  12. A friend and I were discussing ME and we got into a red/blue conversation. He walked over to his PIN collection and immediately noticed a difference in the Grateful Dead ‘Steal your face’ PIN. RED/BLUE switch in the middle. He went to the web and the way he expected it to look, is on line. The PIN he has, cannot be found on line. Does he have a pin that never existed? What’s that worth? I took a pic. Haven’t a clue how post it here.

      1. Does he know when the pin was made? Does he remember other GD logos looking the same way from the same time period? This might give us a clue as to when the change occurred.

      2. Thats pretty trippy Anthony… I’m curious too cause that’s not something just anyone and everyone would have or even know about unless you were a dead head.

        So something is going on but what exactly? Maybe dimensional shifts make the color shift because thats all we can perceive in our 3d world but it’s really got a lot more too it we just can’t see it all?

        1. I recall the one on the phone. Would see the stickers in school and plastered to individual’s clothing every now and then.

  13. My friend said that Grateful Dead Pin was released last year.

    I recall STAPLES having a RED sign and presently it is indeed a RED sign. I took notice of this today and saw a blue sign in the window. It made me wonder that a lot of these changes have both options available for a spell and then there is one. Example ‘words’. Sometimes both spellings are available and then just one. Double memories and so forth …
    …will STAPLES merge to blue?

  14. SPOILERS FOR DOCTOR WHO!

    You mentioned pop culture. In the most recent two-parter of Doctor Who (“The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion”), there are two boxes which are supposed to decide the fate of the world depending on which one is chosen–start a war, or keep the peace. Guess what color the boxes are?

    Moreover, these particular episodes of Doctor Who deal with things hidden in plain sight, codes to communicate, memory manipulation, people kept in dream states, doppelgangers…all things that have been referenced here. There’s also one line near the end of the episode which indicates that this is not the first time that this scenario, or one very like it, has played out–that the Doctor has orchestrated the entire sequence and, moreover, has done it over and over until it came out the way he wanted it to, manipulating everyone’s memories in the process.

    Very interesting, considering the theories that get brought up here about virtual realities and simulations…

  15. I’m pretty sure the Andalites in the “Animorphs” book series used to be red, but now they’re blue.

  16. Hi, everyone,

    This is close to a Red-Blue question, but just a shade off (please pardon the play on words).

    In the past few years I’ve noticed an increasing shift from what I’ve always taken as “the” standard open and closed signs’ colors of green and red (easily associated with traffic lights’ go and stop colors) to the reverse: open signs being lit in red, and closed signs lit in green. At times I’ve thought variously that it was odd, silly, annoying, f*ing [expletive deleted] stupid, ridiculously counterintuitive, misleading, etc..

    In light of the red-blue swap page, I wonder if it’s really only as innocuous as I’ve always assumed, or perhaps instead something more subtly “quirky”. I’m still somewhat on-the-fence about the whole Mandela Effect (my gut tells me that clearly there’s a very real and enormous incongruity, yet I still can’t accept intellectually such a proposition [regardless of the underlying mechanic]), but the open/closed color swap seems to not have drawn any remarks from anyone other than myself, nor elicited any emotional responses.

    I had griped about the trend several months ago to a friend, and he agreed with me about it being odd and annoying, but neither of us had thought anything more of it beyond this. Assuming that I’m not simply crazy (which would actually be a relief, of sorts), is this sign color swap related to M.E. (as opposed to being purely coincidental)? If so, then is it part of the red-blue swap, related somewhat, or wholly separate?

    1. Closeted team-E, this is a brilliant observation. I’d noticed the sign colors issue, but immediately dismissed it as… well, I don’t recall what my explanation du jour was. Probably something about relying on people to read the signs instead of use the colors as cues. Or about the wavelength of red, and thus the “Open” sign would be seen at a greater distance by passers-by.

      However, your comment makes me wonder how many other markers — not just colors — might be so mundane, I’ve been brushing them off instead of adding them to my (mental or computer) database of possible anomalies.

      Thanks for giving me more to think about. And, like you, I’m cautious about reaching firm conclusions in the correlation:causation realm. I’m happy to talk (or even babble) about my theories, but I’m always looking for something well-grounded that will tip the scales with confidence.

        1. Brilliant, Mike! (The doorway effect might be another topic for another website, I think. I mean, at the moment, our doorway references have been related to the Mandela Effect. However, like my EMF theory, in that I think it could branch out into topics far beyond Mandela Effect, and I’m learning to narrow the focus of each website.)

          1. I bought a kitchen gadget this year that has a red button for ON and a purple button for OFF. Daft.

    2. I have GOT to weigh in on this. I work in a large factory, as a utility technician, CTE (may I call you that?), is right on the money with that observation. I thought I was losing my mind. Some of the new machines we have red or blue can mean start , and green may mean stop. They are all different, which is obviously very dangerous if the operators not used to it.
      Another thing I have noticed over the last couple of years in the factory , their are standards for colors for pipe markings. For example green is used to denote natural gas, yellow is for electrical (these are industry standards), but it seems they have been changing there are so many colors now, its hard to tell what is what anymore. Old pipes get marked and re-marked and on and on. Some colors just don’t make sense anymore. Anyway just wanted to echo the red/green thing I have noticed. As I sit here staring at my 2 month old modem flashing it’s RED light meaning everything is good! Blue, means you have a problem——-go figure. My wife and still cant get used to it. Mike H.

      1. This got my attention only because my little one who is 3 insists that green means stop and red means go. He is a smart child and could say and recognize the alphabet before 1 1/2 years. As well as colors shapes etc. He knows opposites and knew what red yellow and green on a stoplight meant for over a year now. We also would play a game red light green light. But the past few months we will be in car and he will say “Mommy it’s red just go!” And than I will have to say “Green means go and red means stop but you know that already” He insists otherwise and just gets frustrated. I just chalk it up to him being a 3 year old. I am going to catch him off guard and see what he responds with.

        1. Hi, Mark H.,

          I hadn’t known about the pipe colors’ change(s), nor noticed the modems’ shift. I wonder how long it might be until NFPA “fire diamonds”, MSDSs/CDSs, etc. suffer such shifts; _that_ could be very bad, indeed.

          = = = = = = =

          Hi, Mindy,

          In keeping with Mark H.’s notes, you now have me concerned about something straight out the first episode of “Sliders”: when Quinn notes nothing unusual, takes off driving, and encounters the traffic signals’ meaning being reversed. Were this to occur in fact, then one might not be quite as lucky as he was. Not an eventuality that I’d care to walk into unawares.

          1. Yes that could be a very scary thing to happen. I think I may look into watching that show. Didn’t know about it. Out of the blue yesterday I again asked him. He gave me the same response. I again told him that he was wrong. He told me no that I was wrong. He gave me a laugh because he also told me to quit asking him and that I was being annoying.

            1. Mindy,

              Aww… that is so _cute_! 🙂

              As for Sliders, NetFlix has it (online, not DVD — I checked, just now). For a more permanent alternative, I suppose that there’s always uTorrent (“mu torrent”) & BitChe (bit shay, as in Che Guevara).

        2. I don’t know if this is a city/state issue, a geographical issue or product issue, but I suspect something along the lines about what’s being talked about here.

          My smoke detector has a steady green light. I have moved quite often in my life including last month and for as long as I can remember and as far as I’ve always noticed, smoke detectors had a red light that blinked.

          1. Anthony, can you clarify that? Some smoke detectors do have a red blinking light. (Ref. https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100110183326AAS2yd3 ) Also, many years ago, our battery-operated smoke detectors’ lights were solid green when everything was fine, and blinked red (sometimes for months) to let us know when the battery was running low. Another detector (not the most practical in the world) combined smoke detection and carbon monoxide detection, and — since we lived in a smoggy city — it blinked red because it was always detecting carbon monoxide. (We moved to another area, soon after.)

            1. Fiona,
              We must have had that same combo one—–very annoying. Had to have the power company come out and run their detectors through the house a few times when we had that. The last one at 2am in January (in the mid-west), was enough for me. Went back to the regular versions.

            2. It’s all from memory Fiona anything else would be speculation. After looking a bit deeper, I don’t think this is related at all.
              (but … the stars are bright tonight and what is that ringing?) I’m being playful.

              Post continued at the Tinnitus thread …

  17. I’m not sure if someone already mentioned this (I saw one reference to Doctor Who) but I remember reading this article about color symbolism (red and blue) in the show and thought it was really interesting.

    http://moffat-rocks.tumblr.com/post/55207054285/theory-about-claras-red-blue-clothes-and-the

    (summary: blue = reality and red = parallel universe). Hence, the red and blue are markers of which universe they are in.

    I also think of the classic scene in Sleeping Beauty when her dress is constantly being turned from pink to blue and vice versa)

  18. I’ve been reading the site over the last couple of months, without feeling the need to add a comment.

    I share nearly all the common ME memories, but felt I had nothing to really add to the conversation.

    However, i’ve just stumbled across a YouTube channel, which goes under the name Webdriver Torso…something I’ve never heard of until today. Said channel has seemingly uploaded over 420,000 videos over the last couple of years. All of which consist of RED and BLUE rectangles changing shape and position, accompanied by a range of beeps of varying pitch. The majority of which are 11 seconds in length.

    Google has apparently claimed responsibility, saying they’re some kind of testing software. Mainstream media has duly reported the same line. But whenever the media reports anything from a certain angle, alarm bells ring for me.

    I apologise if it’s something which has already been discussed, or even dismissed, but I just felt it might be relevant to the discussion.

    Here’s the wiki page.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webdriver_Torso

  19. Ade, good find! I think this may be relevant. Curious , they mention Cicada 3301, we have talked about them on this site, off and on. Not sure I really buy into Google’s explanation (not sure I believe anything anymore, lol). It doesn’t make all that much sense to “test” out in the open. Mike H.

  20. My husband is a Pepsi-holic, so we’ve always had it around the house. About 3 times over the last 25 years or so, I’ve commented on how strange the Pepsi bottlescans look, with the blue over the red (I checked each time for logo changes). My husband also remembers this. Could the possible use of bluered as markers be related to cosmologic RedshiftsBlueshifts?

    http://ned.ipac.Caltech.edu/help/zdef.HTML

    Also, Mike’s correlation of AI and El (technology vs. human) was brilliant! Thanks, Mike, you solved a problem of mine concerning letters, numerical values, and sequences 🙂

  21. I find it fascinating how color is woven into everything thing. Not sure where I am going with this post. I find it very interesting how Magenta, and Chartreuse are opposites in the RYB and RGB color systems. http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Color_theory
    http://www.wikiwand.com/en/RGB_color_model

    Patterns in general catch my eye, Red and Blue really do in this discussion. In both schemes they are present, only the third color (middle), changes yellow or green.
    I think of the RYB scheme as analog, human,warm. Whatever tag you want.
    And the RGB system as digital, artificial, colder.
    A good example White Sun digital , artificial. Yellow Sun warm and analog.

    Again not sure where I am going but I really think color(everything is digital -that we stare at , LOL ) along with technology (including the ability for us to communicate and talk about changes at insane speed, compared to the past) CERN, internet, frequencies (wi-fi, cellular, and numerous others). I wonder if maybe some of us are much more sensitive to these things (and probably other items I forgot). I also believe , if some of us are more sensitive , maybe this technology has somehow effected us to the point of being able to “see” or “notice” things most don’t. Most of this has been discussed before (even by me), but for some reason , today, color seems really important. Don’t mean to ramble, Mike H.

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