Sinbad, there is a large rumor/conspiracy going around that you played a genie in a movie in the 90’s similar to Shaq in Kazaam. Can you confirm or deny the existence of this supposed film? Thanks for the AMA!
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Several people replied to David’s comment, and I’ve moved their comments to this post, focusing specifically on the Sinbad movie.
Also, DbD had asked whether or not this Sinbad/Genie movie appeared (and then vanished) around the same time as the Looney Tunes/Toons change. It’s a good question.
Since I saw the movie in search results — and images from the movie, as well — when David S. commented (August 2015), I’m not sure the timing matches. If anyone else has both memories and can give a time frame, that could be useful.
Sinbad looks like a genie. To me, it’s not just the missing movie that’s odd… it’s that, in this reality, no one cast him as a genie, ever. It’s hard to imagine Hollywood not making good use of obvious casting and easy marketing.
Let’s pretend the Mandela Effect involves sliding from one reality to another. (The other leading explanation is that we’re each in a holodeck. The third explanation is that selected things — portions of our world, or selected chunks of time — are replaced, at least briefly, now & then.)
But if we’re each (individually or in groups) sliding, what is sliding? Is it our entire body, complete with our consciousness and memories? Is it just our consciousness… or some parts of us but not others?
According to an International Business Times (UK) article, it appears that scientists in China are working on a related experiment: Teleportation of bacteria’s memories… (That link takes you to another website.)
In the past, some comments at this website have raised questions about which parts of us teleport (or “slide”) from one reality to another.
One such comment was in a thread started by Anthony. In a reply, Martin Williams said, “Maybe we don’t physically slide, but our existing consciousness travels to another me, and I only remember the change.. Could it be nothing happens to our other selves, just we jump from body to body over the dimensions. we jump into our own body in an alternate world.”
I’ve looked for past, public comments about physical changes. (Some people have reported, privately, scars moving.) Yes, they’re “just” anecdotes, but they may provide helpful insights.
Jelz talked about a vaccination scar appearing and disappearing. “As a kid, I received a smallpox vaccine scar on my right shoulder. It sometimes disappears when I try to show it to people who don’t have the same.”
Joseph Trevino described changing scars and moving birthmarks, “But recently I realized that my appendicitis scar was considerably fainter and I had a new, darker scar farther back, paralleling it. Also, I used to have three birthmarks (in the shape of a triangle) on my left collarbone- except now its on the right, and has a fourth, smaller mark under the top one. I chalked it up to reflection misinterpretation…”
(His comment is typical of the way most readers look first to logical explanations for such changes.)
Albo talked about a childhood incident involving deep scratches from a cat. However, though Albo has scars from lesser accidents, the wound from the cat seems to have left no scars, though it should have.
(That’s one of the most detailed reports among several talking about childhood accidents that should have left scars, but no evidence remains. And, in casual research, I’ve found nothing to indicate that children scar less easily than young adults.)
Alicia also describes a scar that vanished… along with her family’s memories of the dramatic events that led up to it. “On a personal side of things, my brother was a bit of a crap head, he got into some stuff he shouldn’t have and owed a dealer some money. I was confronted and ended up having a chunk sliced out of my arm in the scuffle. I still have the scar but last Christmas my family all acted shocked and concerned about a scar on my arm that is 7 years old. Not a single one remembering me having to go to the ER or…” (The comment is much longer, but this is the important part, for this discussion.)
ampster commented about serious scars that vanished for no reason , “Also in the summer of 1984 I fell off of a four wheeler and badly burned the back of both of my legs. It left me with rather bad scars on the back of both calves. Or so I thought, until one day in the mid-nineties when I mentioned something about it to my then-boyfriend who was confused, because I had no scars. For about ten years the scars disappeared and reappeared. I haven’t seen them since about 2006. (My parents and I always remember the accident, but apparently the severity switches?)”
Courtney recalls childhood surgery and wonders why there’s no scar now, “I clearly remember lying on an operating table and looking up to see doctors and nurses crowded around me. I believed, vehemently, that I had gotten surgery until I was ten and my mother explained to me that I had never had surgery. I even would have said I had a scar until that day, but there’s no scar.”
So, those six public comments out of 10,000, over five years. That’s not a huge number, but I also can’t claim this site provides an accurate survey of the general public, or even of our readers. And, I’ve never before asked about moving scars, or other unexplained physical marks that might suggest whether bodies slide with us, or not.
(Of course, some people will point out that scars can heal to the point of becoming invisible, or nearly so. Yes, I think we all understand that, and these people have considered the possibility of complete healing, without a trace. If the answer were that simple, they wouldn’t have left a comment here.)
If you have a scar that’s dramatically moved, appeared, or vanished (or some similar, unexplained physical change), I don’t need the entire (or gory) context, just the essential highlights. Share them in comments, below, or use the Contact form.
And, if you have ideas related to whether or not an individual’s consciousness and body “slide” together from one reality to another, share them in comments, below, too.
In that article, the author says, “And physicists only have two to three years before CERN shuts the LHC down for upgrades. If we haven’t found anything by then, Cliff said, it could signal the beginning of the end.” (As I read that, he means the end of this particular research effort.)
Let’s say that’s 2019. That fits the prediction of Mr. French: “… after 2019 this window closes and your pretty much stuck on the earth you vibrate with.”
It’s also a match for John D’s comment: “From what I know, 2015 and 2016 should be fairly low key with odd happenings and occurrences. However from 2017-2019 there will be quite a bit of noticeable glitches. It should again be fairly quiet in 2020. Beyond that my sources are a bit….strained I guess would be the right word.”
So, I’m wondering if much of the Mandela Effect — or our current, heightened awareness of it, at least — is related to CERN’s experiments. And, if the decisions we make right now (referring to the BI topic I linked to, yesterday) and through the end of 2018, determine which reality we’ll be “pretty much stuck on,” per Mr. French.
This month, several slightly geeky articles raise interesting points related to quantum studies. I think those points are worth considering, in light of the Mandela Effect.
The first appeared at ComputerWeekly. I’m intrigued by the idea of consciously making business choices in the context of MWI (Many Worlds Interpretation). Author Brian McKenna has taken quantum science in a surprising direction, with applications in the business world.
However, I’m not sure we’re actually “navigating” parallel universes via those decisions. (If you can explain that to me, please do.)
The following are some key excerpts from the article.
This a guest blogpost by James Richardson, business analytics strategist, Qlik
I find solace in the many worlds interpretation (MWI) of reality. In layman’s terms, the idea, first proposed by physicist Hugh Everett in 1957, means that ‘every possible outcome of every event defines or exists in its own “history” or “world”‘. In other words, every time an event happens the universe splits. …
So how does this relate to business intelligence (BI)? …
Here’s my logic:
1. People use BI as a driver for decisions.
2. Decision events split universes.
3. Therefore BI is a tool for switching between parallel universes.
To push the logic further, if the likely decision outcome is known, BI is a tool for consciously navigating parallel universes.
Do you think that your decisions — daily, unconscious ones, or even deliberate choices — affect whether or not you experience the Mandela Effect? Do those of us with alternate memories have them because we’re decision-makers… and we tend to make choices that take us outside the lock-step conformity of society and some pop culture?
The explanation here is really that we’re constrained to only perceive a single reality at a time, and that perception is entangled with the outcome we’re seeing. [Emphasis added]
I like the emphasis on perception. It’s a little challenging to think we’re in all realities at one time, but aren’t consciously aware of it. However, I can’t rule that out as a possibility… or even a strong likelihood.
But then he says,
There’s a ‘world’ for every possible sequence of events, and these are completely separate and inaccessible to one another. [Emphasis added.]
I’m uneasy with the assumption that multiple realities are “inaccessible to one another,” unless he’s talking about a merge (or partial merge) between realities.
The Mandela Effect suggests that we can access different worlds or realities. (Of course, that’s only if you like the concept that we’re sliding between realities, as opposed to being in a holodeck or simulator.)
And then there’s the NPR article, How Real Is Reality?, posted January 5, 2016, by Adam Frank. I’m including this excerpt because it amuses me, and — of course — he’s at least partly correct. It’s why — at this point — no one can say exactly what’s causing the Mandela Effect.
“Quantum mechanics (or ‘quantum physics’) is the body of knowledge related to the nanoworld of molecules, atoms and the component parts. It’s the most powerful and accurate theory human beings have ever, ever, ever developed. The computer you’re reading these words on now wouldn’t be possible without quantum physics. But beneath all that power is a remarkable paradox that should never be forgotten: No one knows what quantum mechanics is talking about.” [Emphasis added.]
Recently, after people had raised “Looney Toons” as an alternate memory, something odd happened: People report seeing “Looney Tunes” (the actual name) change to “Looney Toons,” at many websites, just for a day or so.
For example, on 28 Nov 2015, Emily said, “Hey guys…. Looney Tunes changed again. Just last week it was Looney Toons…” (“Last week” would have been Nov 15th – 22nd.)
Ordinarily, I’d dismiss that kind of report as a brief and localized issue — usually a print media error, or a typo in a digital TV show listing.
Also, it doesn’t help that Tiny Toons exist, with similar graphics to their “grown-up” counterparts. So, that provides plenty of reason for people to be confused about the cartoon series’ names.
(However, several people — including Lebaneser Scrooge — mentioned Tiny Toons in their comments, so they were aware of the difference.)
In this case, Emily’s comment was one of many. She wasn’t confusing “Tiny Toons” and “Looney Tunes.” In fact, reports were widespread and credible.
The alternate memory — a reality in which it really is “Looney Toons” — was suggested in some 2014 emails. By March 2015, people were more outspoken about this. (See a comment on Comments 5 and another on Comments 6, with more on later pages.)
So, if the one-day switch was deliberate, the crossover wasn’t original; we’d already talked about it, here. And — if it was a genuine mistake (by one or more people) — one might question whether those who changed the name, temporarily, may have come from another reality.
But, that’s assuming the brief name change occurred in this reality. And frankly, it’s stacking one speculation atop another, reaching a precarious conclusion.
As I see it, we have several explanations, none of which can be proved. Here they are, in no particular order:
Everyone who thought they saw “Looney Toons” was mistaken. (I don’t believe that, based on the volume of reports I received, but it must be mentioned if we’re considering every possibility.)
Everyone who saw “Looney Toons,” online, had slid into a reality where that was the correct spelling. And then they slid back into this reality, without noticing any other alternate-reality cues.
The veil (or whatever you want to call it) between realities thinned, briefly and only in certain locations, so the alternate reality’s “Looney Toons” name phased into view in (or from) this reality.
The brief change — from Looney Tunes to Looney Toons — was deliberate, and either a prank or a social experiment. (The scale of that would be impressive, but not impossible.)
If you saw Looney Toons in November (or at any other time), share your thoughts in comments, below. If possible, include when you saw it, and where you were at the time (nearest city).
With over 60 points to plot on a map, I’d hoped to see some strong patterns from our first geographic survey. Instead, while I saw a few surprises, nothing seemed conclusive at first glance.
Of course, these early map results rely on accurate reports by those who left comments, and accurate results from the mapmakers at GPS Visualizer. In addition, this is a very small sampling and doesn’t include reports from the “moving” geography sections of this site.
Here’s the world map, with one red dot per reported location from the survey:
Almost immediately, two vertical lines stand out.
The first goes from about 6 km WSW of Fay, France (SW of Paris) to about 220 km west of Kidal, Mali. That line is extraordinarily straight. It’s shown on the map to the right. (Click map to see it much larger.)
The second surprisingly straight, vertical line goes from a point about 15 km northeast of Surrey, near Vancouver, Canada, to several points near Santa Cruz, California (USA).
That map is on the left. (Click map to see it larger).
One location along that line was particularly surprising. On the map, it’s the northernmost red dot in California.
When I expanded the map to see local details, the location is slightly south of Yreka, California. (It’s pronounced “why-REEK-uh.”)
In that part of California, I’d expected to see a report or two nearer to Mt. Shasta, which has a long history of paranormal activity, including Native American lore and Frederick Spenser Oliver’s novel, A Dweller On Two Planets.
However, the line through northern California is considerably west of Mt. Shasta. That’s disappointing, but I’ve never explored Mt. Shasta to confirm its activity.
Several other lines cross the United States. On their own, they’re inconclusive.
Here’s the US-Canada Map. (Click map to see it larger.)
For me to take any of these lines seriously, I’d need more compelling evidence. Also, from my own ley line studies: when one genuinely anomalous line crosses a second one, their intersection is usually very active. With the possible exception of the X near Phoenix, Arizona, nothing seems promising… yet.
Line-by-line US/Canada Map
At a quick glance — not enough to reach reliable conclusions (so take this summary with a grain of salt) — here’s what I see:
Using dots on this map to construct a few lines, the most promising one (Line #2) passes through Arizona. Even that isn’t impressive, though it includes Portland, Las Vegas, and Phoenix, and seems to pass through Area 51. Due its the Las Vegas and Area 51 connections, I’ll explore this line further.
Line #1 includes the “hot spot” near Santa Cruz, plus Los Angeles and San Diego. I haven’t spent much time in Santa Cruz, and nothing about Los Angeles would surprise me, but San Diego has always seemed fairly benign.
Line #3 connects Denver and multiple spots in Arizona, but entirely misses some of the most legendary (anomalous) locations in South Dakota.
Line #4 (turquoise) connects several Canadian locations I’ve studied. It continues through Detroit, a somewhat turbulent city, and then approaches El Paso (TX), which no one reported. So, that line has some potential at its northernmost points, but — so far — that’s all.
Line #5 goes through Atlanta (GA), Nashville (TN), and Marshalltown (IA). I need to compare it to my ley line maps of Georgia.
Line #6 tracks through Vermont, New York City, and eastern New Jersey. Due to the density of population along much of the line, it’s difficult to separate geography from history, but I’ve studied many locations along that line; it could be useful.
At the moment, I feel that the points and lines indicate where site visitors are or have been, and that’s all.
I was hoping for clearer results.
Of course, the sampling was tiny. It’s too early to close the door on geography or even ley lines helping us understand (or even predict) the Mandela Effect.
Also, I didn’t plot all possible lines. For example, a line connecting Brussels (Belgium) to a point slightly west of Port Macquarie (Australia) might offer some insights.
If you see data or “coincidences” I missed, or if you pursue this and uncover anything helpful, leave a comment. (Mike H., I’m especially interested in how these lines relate — or don’t — to your geography patterns.)
Several odd things happened in Las Vegas in late December 2015. In a city where “odd” is a way of life, anything beyond their “normal” is especially interesting.
This is a good example of data points — a specific location and closely connected events (times) — that are useful for my research. However, this may (or may not) relate to the Mandela Effect, per se.
Two rare events happened on the night of 20 Dec 2015.
Las Vegas Anomaly #1
First, a woman drove her car onto a crowded sidewalk, just outside the Planet Hollywood Resort & Casino. Descriptions of the event varied, but many suggested that the driver slowed the car and then hit the accelerator a second time, mowing down nearly 40 people.
At the time, the woman said that she couldn’t explain what happened, and she’d lost control of the car.
Per ABC News: “KSNV-TV says the crash occurred in front of the Paris Hotel & Casino and Planet Hollywood Las Vegas Resort & Casino on South Las Vegas Boulevard, north of Harmon Avenue. The crash took place about 6 p.m. The Miss Universe pageant was being held at the Planet Hollywood at the time of the crash.”
Later, news reports said she’d tested positive for marijuana, but that’s odd, as well. Per the University of Washington, “Marijuana usually has a sedating effect on most users, making it much less likely to cause violence…” Nevertheless, she described being under stress, and that can be a factor in violent behavior.
Las Vegas Anomaly #2
Meanwhile, a few hundred yards away, the Planet Hollywood Resort & Casino was hosting the 2015 Miss Universe pageant.
In a baffling blunder, Steve Harvey, an experienced entertainer, crowned the wrong contestant. It’s still unclear whether he misread the card — truly odd for someone accustomed to reading from cards — or if the teleprompter script was wrong.
No matter what the explanation, Harvey crowned Miss Colombia… and then had to remove the crown and announce that Miss Philippines was the real winner.
Two nights later, Las Vegas was one of the most-reported viewing points for a bright light soaring through the night sky. Officials explained it as space debris from a Russian rocket.
That’s nothing baffling, but it is odd, since the Las Vegas sky is so well-lit by traffic and commercial signs, anything in the sky must be extraordinarily bright.
Not Quite Mandela Effect
On their own, these events are unfortunate. Combined — in time & location — they’re strange enough to note. However, the current facts in this reality don’t point to the Mandela Effect.
A few people have mentioned Columbia/Colombia spellings as possible Mandela Effect issues. Unfortunately, that mix-up is a frequent typo and spelling error. It’s difficult to attribute it to an alternate reality.
Note: I’m not saying it’s only a typo or spelling error. The problem is, very little points to the Columbia/Colombia cross-over spellings as genuine alternate memories. So, for now, it’s something to note but I’d need more data to include it in my immediate research.
It may be something we’ll look at again, later, if this kind of “typo” fits a larger pattern.
However, since — at this time — it has no clear Mandela Effect connections, I’m closing this to further comments.
Is it Broome Effect?
It may not be Mandela Effect, but these “coincidences” fit my Broome Theory research.
If you’d like to discuss these Las Vegas anomalies — or related patterns of strange events — comment at the Las Vegas article at BroomeTheory.com. (That’s a new website being launched in about a week. For now, the site is untidy and incomplete.)
At that site, I’m looking for anomalies that happened…
Same time, same location: within a block or two of these events, between 6 PM and 11 PM on 20 Dec 2016.
Same time, different locations: other anomalies that happened between 6 PM and 11 PM (Las Vegas time, or 2 AM GMT to 7 AM GMT).
Different time, but at least three consistent, headline-worthy anomalies at a specific location.
It’s time for another fun Saturday survey, to see if any patterns emerge among those with Mandela Effect memories.
What’s your astrological sign? Let’s focus on the popular, Western version… Aries, Pisces, and so on, at least for now.
I’m not endorsing astrology; I’m just looking, at random, for patterns. At this point, anything is possible.
[A note to skeptical critics: Yes, I do know that astrology and astronomy are two very different topics. I’ve read many scathing attacks on astrology, including the one at Deeper Minds. My approach to topics like this is different. First, I ask “does this work?” Then I question why it does, not necessarily taking commonplace explanations at face value.]
In this poll, I’m looking for two things, both from astrology: Your birth sign (from the date you were born), and your rising sign (related to the time/hour you were born).
Your birth sign is the zodiac sign where the sun was, when you were born. Those signs change about once a month.
Your rising sign is related to the sign on the horizon when you were born, and changes slightly from minute to minute.
You can look this up at Astro.com. For the rising sign, you’ll need the time of your birth; that’s usually on your birth certificate, though your mother may recall it… with more peripheral details than you ever wanted to know. (I’m a mom, so I can say that and laugh.)
“Mirror, mirror” is what most people remember the Queen saying in the 1937 Disney movie, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. In fact, IMDb describes the Disney film as “by far most memorable full-length animated feature from the Disney Studios.”
One would think that “memorable” movie produced reliable, consistent memories, including the famous “Mirror, mirror” line.
However, the Queen in that movie actually said, “Magic mirror on the wall.”
Is that an example of the Mandela Effect? Possibly.
Our dilemma is rooted in the history of Snow White.
The original Brothers Grimm story
The original story was called “Schneewittchen,” which translates to “Snow White.” (Schnee = Snow, and Wittchen = White.)
IT was the middle of winter, and the snowflakes were falling from the sky like feathers. Now, a Queen sat sewing at a window framed in black ebony, and as she sewed she looked out upon the snow. Suddenly she pricked her finger and three drops of blood fell on to the snow. And the red looked so lovely on the white that she thought to herself: ‘If only I had a child as white as snow and as red as blood, and as black as the wood of the window frame!’ Soon after, she had a daughter, whose hair was black as ebony, while her cheeks were red as blood, and her skin as white as snow; so she was called Snowdrop. But when the child was born the Queen died. A year after the King took another wife. She was a handsome woman, but proud and overbearing, and could not endure that any one should surpass her in beauty. She had a magic looking-glass, and when she stood before it and looked at herself she used to say:
‘Mirror, Mirror on the wall,Who is fairest of us all?’
then the Glass answered,‘Queen, thou’rt fairest of them all.’
At least the “Mirror, Mirror” phrase remained true to the Grimm version.
The same “Mirror, mirror” phrase appeared in The Red Fairy Book, edited by Andrew Lang, but with a different additional line:
After a year the King married again. His new wife was a beautiful woman, but so proud and overbearing that she couldn’t stand any rival to her beauty. She possessed a magic mirror, and when she used to stand before it gazing at her own reflection and ask:
'Mirror, mirror, hanging there,
Who in all the land's most fair?'
(Some other translations change the phrase entirely to lines such as “’Tell me, glass, tell me true! Of all the ladies in the land, Who is fairest, tell me, who?’ I don’t think they’re relevant to this discussion, but they must be mentioned.)
So, regardless of the lines that followed, most related fairy tales seemed to say “Mirror, Mirror.”
For over 100 years — through the mid-20th century — that was the phrase people associated with Snow White.
Disney’s “Snow White” – the same or different?
Certainly, the Disney movie was adapted from the Grimm brothers’ tale.
The oft-quoted line in the movie is remembered as: “Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who’s the fairest of them all?”
However, in this reality the Disney movie’s Queen has always said “Magic mirror.”
It’s easy to find “mirror, mirror” references in pop culture. Recent examples include everything from Star Trek to the 2012 movie starring Julia Roberts, and beyond.
The problem is: That phrase originated with the fairy tale published and popularized in the 19th century. We can’t draw a straight line from Star Trek (and more modern productions) to the Disney film, and leave it there. We must go back to earlier “mirror, mirror” references.
That’s the same problem we encounter with many Mandela Effect memories: Since our memories happened in another reality, I’m not sure we’ll find good, credible supporting evidence in this reality.
Like others, my memory of the Disney film is “Mirror, Mirror, on the wall…,” but that’s anecdotal. Also like others, I can’t support it with anything except others’ anecdotes.
In my opinion, that’s not only a problem; it’s stalled our research.
Evidence, anecdotes, and Mandela Effect reports
For many — perhaps most — of our alternate memories, almost all of our “evidence” is anecdotal.
Thanks to five years of reader input — and thousands of great anecdotes and theories — we can see that something is going on.
I don’t believe anyone is tampering with history. (Media errors, bias, and propaganda exist. They’re not part of the Mandela Effect.)
In fact, I believe people’s memories are more reliable than society suggests.
In my opinion, many — perhaps most — of those alternate events happened… just not in this reality.
We may be sliding from one reality to another.
We may be in a holodeck, or have “forgotten” holodeck memories.
And, other explanations may emerge.
I also believe that the Snow White conundrum is an example of why we now need to look for patterns. For example: we need to examine when and where “slides” may have happened. We need to study hard data points to see what emerges.
Maybe the patterns will relate to CERN activity; it’s too early to leap to that conclusion.
Several explanations will likely dominate, but I’m reluctant to insist there is just one explanation for all alternate memories.
I never guess. It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. — Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, author of Sherlock Holmes stories.
This week — once again, for fun — let’s try a different kind of survey. This time, it’s about location. I’m looking for geographic patterns.
Here’s what to do:
Remember when you first realized that one of your memories didn’t match the current reality. It could be this year, last year, or even a decade ago. (This may not be where you are now. It’s where you were when you realized you weren’t “just confused” and your memory really was different.)
So far, so good! Finally, copy the latitude & longitude from that screen, and paste it into this thread as a comment. That’s it… all you need to do.
If you’ve had multiple “ah-ha!” moments like this, it’s okay to enter all of them. The more coordinates we can work with, the better.
Here’s my example: When I first realized that my odd memory of Mandela’s death in prison wasn’t unique, I was in Atlanta, GA (USA). That conversation was in the “green room” of Dragon Con, at the Hyatt in downtown Atlanta, GA, USA.
According to Google, that’s Latitude: 33.761621 | Longitude: -84.386249 <– If I were leaving a comment, that’s the only information I’d leave.
Once we’ve collected a few dozen locations, I’ll start plotting them on a map, looking for patterns. (Specifically, I’m likely to start with ley lines, in “connect the dots” style.)
SURVEY IS NOW CLOSED. We have 61 locations to work with. A map is being constructed, right now.