Nelson Mandela – The Memories, So Far

alone-crowdThe previous post, Nelson Mandela Died in Prison?  triggered so many, varied responses, it’s difficult to find the Mandela memories in the 150+ comments that followed.

Here are some of them, as of February 2013.  (If you leave a comment at this post, do me a favor: Keep it about Nelson Mandela memories.  I’m in the process of separating the various memories into individual posts, for people interested in stories related to just one kind of memory.)

Perry Ware said:

Both my wife and I remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison. Included in this memory are the funeral snippets on TV and a legal flap over book rights involving his Widow.

Scott said:

Clear distinct memory of the Nelson Mandela funeral on tv in the early 80′s.

C. A. Low said:

I have experienced this many times. Not only Mandela’s death, but also the death of Muammar Gaddafi several years ago…

Jackie said:

I remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison. The problem is that I either just knew he did (like it was common knowledge), or it happened at a different time for me. I was born in 1985, so I couldn’t have a memory from the early 80s. I think it must have been that it was at a different time, because I remember events after he died… like a really big Oprah episode, concerts in his memory, celebrities ALL wearing his prison numbers, etc.

My experience was that on a regular day, my mom and I were doing separate things with the TV on in the background. I think I was on my laptop and my mom may have also been on hers or reading a book. I believe CNN was the channel the TV was on. Nelson Mandela was mentioned as doing something, which caught both of our ears, I guess, because we both looked up and Nelson Mandela was there… walking around, present day. My mom and I both looked at each other, wide eyed and pale. I was like, “Isn’t he dead? I remember him dying….” And she said YES, and we were both discussing how on earth he was alive and no one else was shocked. We BOTH remembered the Oprah show, we BOTH remembered a specific concert that was live and shown on multiple channels… we both remembered that he died years ago in prison.

I’m amazed that so many other people have this memory. We couldn’t have all slipped into another dimension and remember it. There must be something more logical at work… like he did die, and the forces at work just expected us to not say anything? I have no idea what the explanation is, but I know he died. You could give me a polygraph and I would pass.

Margaret said:

I also remember Nelson Mandela’s funeral and the deaths of Billy Graham, Dom Deluis, Ernest Borgenine and Mickey Roomie. It’s all very interesting.

Colleen said:

I also remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison and was quite amazed when he was elected president of South Africa. Last night I watched the movie, Invictus, and kept wondering where or when was I? I clearly remember the announcement of his death and was amazed that more people around me were not moved by the sadness of it. I also remember vaguely some controversy about his “estate”.

lorrie @ clueless… said:

Nelson Mandela-I remember somebody talking about how his spirit was soaring free from his jail cell. Bill Cosby named his TV grandchildren “Winnie” and “Nelson” and I thought, oh how sweet, he’s paying homage to a brave deceased hero.

Jasper Allen said:

I remember Mandelas funeral being on the news in the UK in the late 80′s. At the time I was just a kid and I didn’t have a clue who Mandela was.

ggameoverr said:

I too remember Mandela dying in Prison, right before he was to be released. I thought this won’t be good, the South Africans will think he was kill or something. It was on CNN Headline news around lunchtime. I was in Highschool so it was in the 80′s.

Jonathan said:

This is just WEIRD ! The more I think about it, the more REAL the memory becomes. I live in South Africa, was born in 1980 so I would have been a kid. The memory is most certainly there (SOMETHING about his Mandela’s death).

…It’s weird, like the men in black movie. I don’t believe in parallel universes, but mind altering ? Sure.

kim wing said:

I also remember reading the newspaper and all the whoopola about Nelson Mandela dying on tv. I remember the banners at his funeral. I am an adult and take such history seriously. When he was released from prison I was flabbergasted. Art bell also bought this up on one of his shows and if he hadn’t I still would have been thinking I was goofy. this happened folks.

Ron said:

I remember Nelson Mandella dying while in prison, and I also remember that his wife became president there sometime afterwards. Later on I heard a radio show with someone talking about this subject, that others too remember his death.

Inquiring Mind said:

I remember it too.

I was only a kid — I was born in 1983 — but I remember seeing something about his death on TV once when I was waiting for Saturday morning cartoons to come on. It was like a biography/memorial/documentary thing. I had no idea who he was, but for some reason it made an impression on me. What I specifically remember is that A) he was in prison at some point, and B) that he passed away.

Years later, as a teenager, I remember having a few moments of “Wait, what? I thought he died!” …But it wasn’t until recently that I discovered I’m not alone in my recollection!

Teri said:

I saw this subjected posted on another site with a link to this site. My mom and I both also “remember” Mandela dying in prison…

Fab said:

I was very young at the time but am 100% certain that Mandela passed while in prison. I recall all the press dedicated to his life and memory so vividly that when news that he was being released came over the air waves I was stunned and immediately went searching for answers only to find out I wasnt alone. I agree that there must be time line ripple effects that some of us are not aware occur. I’ve had gaps of missing time and dreams so real I can still recall how things felt when I touched them! Glad i’m not alone!

Kassia said:

Interesting on so many levels. I am in the same boat in regards to Mandela…

Kate said:

This site is freaking me out. My friend Mikey and I used to talk about the Mandela memory all the time because we remembered him dying in prison. We used to talk about jumping time lines and we really believed it because things got ‘different’ for us both, but we NEVER talked about it with anyone else because of how insane it sounds! I have since then looked for anything about it, and I found this website- I just can’t believe this.

miss_fionna said:

I remember Mandela having died in prison. But I was very young then and I don’t remember the exact event, but an anniversary of his death. It was all over the tv, they showed footage of him alive and some funeral footage too. Now I wasn’t very old, but they were definitely talking about his death.

Kate said:

My friend, who I often talked about this kind of thing with years ago, pointed out to me tonight that Nelson Mandela and Billy Graham were born in the same year.

C-Man said:

I also thought Mandela died in prison, and a couple of my friends share this memory.

J. Ezra Powell said:

I recall the asasination of N. Mandela around 1983-1985. I was a child at the time and attended a majority black school. I recall the next morning we all wore black ribbons and had an assembly. I recall the tv news showing crowds of people as there was a parade in Mandelas honor and while riding in the back of the car he was shot and killed. He had Kat been released from prison and apartide was ending. Now he lives and my memories are wrong it would seem or are they. Did I experience another reality?

Catherine said:

I remember a lot of these, Nelson Mandela and Billy Graham both dying in the 90′s.

Amy said:

I, too, remember news report stating that Nelson Mandela died — and that was in the 1980s! I distinctly remember the television channel 5 news broadcast in Boston where the TV news broadcaster, Natalie Jacobson, stated that he died. It was the main story during the 6:00 p.m. news that day. Then I was stunned, startled and confused years later when I heard another news report stating that Nelson Mandela “just died.” I actually had a sickening feeling when I heard the news report the second time because it was so unsettling to me. Because how can you remember something that is completely inconsistent with the facts that are presented at a later time? I was relieved when I heard that other people also remember a news report from many years earlier stating that he had died (in prison). Then I knew I wasn’t losing my mind. But this phenomenon just fascinates me. I wish someone could explain how this “dual timeline” really works. My conclusion is that there must be parallel universes.

stephen stockton said:

A friend and I have discussed many times the Mandela death. We both remember the same thing in detail. I think this an insight into a very important event. It could be a mis-quote from the media which has been suggested before but no one has owned up to it. No retractions -nothing. It could be a “natural” event in the fabric of space-time, a hickup so to speak. Or as we have conjectured, a “correction” by yes, I dare say it, a time traveler. It’s the internet-get over it. I have heard that a number of countries have been experimenting with time travel and it is possible a correction was made to re-direct the situation-probably unknown to us 99%.

Will said:

Yes, yes, yes! Mandela died in prison…

Alex posted this very interesting update about Nelson Mandela:

I live in South Africa and ‘Nelson Mandela’ was admitted to hospital last week Saterday.

Here’s the REALLY interesting part:

3 weeks ago a Dakota DC3 flew to Qunu where he lives with his medical team aboard. The female pilot failed her flying license, and her instructor gave the Air Force the strict orders to never test her again as she as zero ability to fly. Anyway, 3 weeks ago she flew the medical team to Qunu and totaled the DC3 on landing. Luckily everyone survived.

2 weeks ago another Dakota DC3 flys to Qunu and this time it crashes in the Drakensberg mountains killing all on board.

These weekly flights were said to be for Mandela’s health check-up’s. But when the second DC3 crashed killing everyone the media immediately denied that any medical personnel were on board!?

Last week Saturday Mandela was admitted to hospital for ‘routine tests’ at One Military in Pretoria. Tuesday the media said he had lung infection from TB that he contracted during his 27 year prison stay. Wednesday we were told he was at the Heart Clinic in Pretoria and that he was never at One Military. On Friday he was supposed to be discharged and today we were told that he had gall stones removed.

Do you remember Nelson Mandela’s death in the 1980s or 1990s, or at some other time prior to 2013?  If so, please leave your comments, below.

Are We Real?

The Mandela Effect raises many questions. At one extreme, one could ask — if only for the amusement of speculation — “Are we real?”

This video, about 50 minutes long, presents some radical concepts about reality and the Creator/s. My personal reaction is a mix of intrigue and skepticism.

Nevertheless, elements of these theories could explain some aspects of the Mandela Effect.

Reality – Holodeck or World of Light?

Taking the Mandela Effect to the next step, what if we’re not talking about realities, but about experiences in various holodecks?  And, what if reality is a holodeck?

This video is in English, despite the initial French banter. If you take quantum science seriously and you’re interested in the idea of this being a holodeck, the juicy discussion starts at about 6:15 in this video.

If you have access to past Star Trek: The Next Generation episodes, the two involving Moriarty are Elementary, Dear Data (Season 2, Episode 3) and  Ship in a Bottle (Season 6, Episode 12).

Be forewarned: These quantum/reality concepts may offend some people, especially those working with literal Creationist beliefs.

And, when you get to the negative energy concept, around the 15:00 point where he’s talking about Dr. Richard Feynman’s theory and retrocausality, it may twist your thinking into a pretzel.

The book he’s discussing is available at Amazon, in hardcover and in Kindle.

Reality, Dream, or… Does It Matter?

If you’re interested in the many ways to explain the Mandela Effect, Dr. Fred Alan Wolf is someone to listen to, as you’re looking for answers that make sense to you.

Whether you agree with him or not, he offers some interesting observations that may be part of this puzzle.

In this excerpt from a 2010 interview, he talks about reality and dreaming. Though his most relevant dream theories start at about the 6:36 point, to understand the concepts best, watch this entire YouTube video.

(Some of those concepts are echoed in his Flatland video.)

To learn more about some of Dr. Wolf’s theories and their connection with science, see his paper, The Dreaming Universe – Q&A

And, to delve more deeply into the quantum theories related to this, see his early, simple thesis, Dreaming Universe Paper.

In addition, the following book by Dr. Wolf is fairly old (1994), but I think it’s important to explore the history of an evolving theory, to more fully understand it.  So, if you can find this book at your public library or snag a copy for a couple of dollars, it could be worthwhile… if you’re exploring the dream/reality connection from a quantum angle.

Premature Obituaries and the Mandela Effect

Premature obituaries and the Mandela EffectPremature obituaries are not — so far — a significant factor in “Mandela Effect” reports.

Among all the stories I hear in real life, via email, and in comments at this website, few (if any) represent documented premature obituaries.  Even the prepared obituary for Nelson Mandela was leaked long after the era when people clearly remember his funeral.

You can see a list of the major false reports at Wikipedia’s list of premature obituaries.

It’s routine for news reporters to prepare obituaries for important public figures.  Then, when the person is gone, the tribute to that person is ready to rush to press (in the case of newspapers and magazines) and to broadcasts.  Reporters have the highlights of the person’s life already written.  Only the death information is necessary for the new report.

In at least one case, some of those prepared obituaries were leaked… but not as actual obituaries.  The event was known as the “CNN incident.”  Here’s how Wikipedia describes the hack:

Multiple premature obituaries came to light on 16 April 2003, when it was discovered that pre-written draft memorials to several world figures were available on the development area of the CNN website without requiring a password (and may have been accessible for some time before). The pages included tributes to Fidel Castro, Dick Cheney, Nelson Mandela, Bob Hope, Gerald Ford, Pope John Paul II, and Ronald Reagan.

When considering the Nelson Mandela reports, it’s important to put them into context:

  1. This CNN website issue wasn’t reported as actual obituaries.  Mostly, when the story went public, it focused on ridiculous things like Dick Cheney being described as the “Queen Consort,” and Fidel Castrol being a “movie star.”
  2. The CNN website leak was reported in 2003.  Most people who remember Nelson Mandela’s death, remember details from the 1980s.  They’re not confusing that era with 2003.

So far, I don’t have any good explanations for the detailed, rich, credible memories people report in connection with the death of Nelson Mandela, Billy Graham, and others.  Nevertheless, when your memory of a celebrity’s death doesn’t match the timeline you’re in, it’s important to double-check the premature obituaries list, just in case.

Wikipedia lists the following explanations for premature obits:

  •     Accidental publication: accidental release of a pre-written obituary, usually on a news web site, as a result of technical or human error. The most egregious example was when, in 2003, CNN accidentally released draft obituaries for seven major world figures.
  •      Brush with death: when the subject unexpectedly survives a serious illness or accident which made them appear to be dead or certain to die.
  •     Fraud victim: many people from Uttar Pradesh, India have been registered dead by officials who are bribed by relatives who want to steal the victim’s land. The ensuing legal disputes often continue for many years, with victims growing elderly and sometimes dying in reality before they are resolved.
  •     Hoax: when a death is falsely reported, as a prank.
  •     Impostor: when an ordinary person who for years has passed himself off to family and friends as a retired minor celebrity dies, it can prompt an erroneous obituary for the real (but still-living) celebrity.
  •     Misidentified body: when a corpse is misidentified as someone else, often someone who was involved in the same incident or who happened to go missing at the same time.
  •     Missing in action: soldiers who go missing in war are sometimes incorrectly declared dead if no body is found. In particular, a number of Japanese soldiers thought to have died in World War II in fact survived – typically hiding in remote jungle for years or even decades, believing that the war had not ended.
  •     Misunderstandings: such as when a Sky News employee thought that an internal rehearsal for the future death of the Queen Mother was real.
  •     Name confusion: where someone with an identical or similar name has died. Usually the subject of the obituary is famous; the deceased person is not.
  •      Pseudocide: when the subject fakes his own death in order to evade legal, financial, or marital difficulties and start a new life.

Premature obituaries and other news reporting errors can lead to misunderstandings.  However, most of the reports I receive can’t be explained by a news error or simple misunderstanding.  The Mandela Effect goes far beyond that.

Patrick Swayze – Alive and Hospitalized?

Ghostly dancersIn late January 2012, stories started emerging about Patrick Swayze being hospitalized.

Is that due to confusion over recent interviews with his widow, Lisa?

Is this because his classic movie, Point Break, is — according to the Huffington Post — getting a reboot?

I don’t see any news stories related to his brother, actor Don Swayze.  So, it’s not that the two were confused.

When I checked Google Insights, the following terms were listed in the current Rising Searches.

Patrick Swayze searches at Google, 1 Feb 2012
Swayze-related searches at Google, 1 Feb 2012

When the term is indicated as “Breakout,” it means it has at least a 5000% increase in searches, relative to the recent past.

Currently, most of those searches are coming from: Canada, USA, UK, Ireland,  Australia, Portugal and Hungary, in that order.

Is there a logical explanation for this quirky surge?  I’m looking for a logical explanation.

It might simply be the confusing headline from Fox — “Patrick Swayze’s widow Lisa Niemi blasts tabloids for coverage of husband’s cancer” —
which didn’t make it clear that he was hospitalized over two years ago.

That seems the most likely explanation.

However, I’m also wondering if this is Mandela Effect again.  I’d like to think there’s a parallel world in which Patrick Swayze is alive and well, even if — in that reality — he’s briefly in the hospital, hopefully for something minor.

Patrick Swayze, the talented actor, dancer and singer, was born on August 18, 1952  and left this world on September 14, 2009.

His acting career was highlighted by many wonderful films in which he starred, including Ghost, Point Break and Dirty Dancing.

Sliders TV Series

When I talk about parallel realities and “sliders,” I often refer to the Sliders TV series.  It aired from 1995 through 2000, and was an innovator in presenting alternate history themes.

Sliders TV Series – Pilot

Here’s a preview from the movie-length pilot for the series.

Sliders TV Series

More information about the Sliders TV series, from Wikipedia:

Sliders is an American science fiction television series. It was broadcast for five seasons, beginning in 1995 and ending in 2000. The series follows a group of travelers as they use a wormhole to “slide” between different parallel universes.

Sliders TV series - castThe nature of the Sliders TV series changed throughout the seasons. The first two seasons focused on alternate histories  and social norms, with the consensus amongst the creative team maintaining these two seasons to be largely superior to what would come later on during the series’ third season.

These stories explored what would have happened, for example, if America had been conquered by the Soviet Union, if Britain had won the American War of Independence, if penicillin had not been invented, or if men were subservient to women.

(photo (c)1995, courtesy Universal Studios press kit)

The Sliders TV series was created by Robert K. Weiss and Tracy Tormé. Tormé, Weiss, Leslie Belzberg, John Landis, David Peckinpah, Bill Dial and Alan Barnette served as executive producers at different times of the production.

For its first two seasons it was produced in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Sliders was filmed primarily in Los Angeles, California, USA in the last three seasons.

The first three seasons of the Sliders TV series were aired by the Fox Network. Originally canceled after the first season, the series was renewed after a fan protest.

After Fox canceled the show again after three seasons, the series moved to The Sci-Fi Channel for its final two seasons.

The last new episode first aired on December 29, 1999 in the United Kingdom, and was broadcast on The Sci-Fi Channel on February 4, 2000.

Main cast

* Quinn Mallory (seasons 1-4), played by Jerry O’Connell
* Wade Kathleen Welles (seasons 1-3, voice of Wade in “Requiem”, S5e11), played by Sabrina Lloyd
* Rembrandt Lee “Crying Man” Brown (seasons 1-5), played by Cleavant Derricks
* Professor Maximillian P. Arturo (seasons 1-3), played by John Rhys-Davies
* Maggie Beckett (seasons 3-5), played by Kari Wührer
* Colin Mallory (season 4), played by Charlie O’Connell
* Quinn Mallory (2) a.k.a. Mallory (season 5), played by Robert Floyd
* Diana Davis (season 5), played by Tembi Locke

Recurring Guest Stars

* Colonel Angus Rickman, played by Roger Daltrey (“The Exodus” parts 1 and 2 (S3e16–17)) and Neil Dickson (episodes “The Other Slide of Darkness”, “Dinoslide”, “Stoker” and “This Slide of Paradise” (S3e21, S3e23-25))

* Elston Diggs, played by Lester Barrie (episodes “Double Cross”, “The Dream Masters”, “Desert Storm”, “Dragonslide”, “Murder Most Foul”, and “The Breeder” (S3e2, S3e5-7, S3e13, S3e19))

* Doctor Oberon Geiger, played by Peter Jurasik (episodes “The Unstuck Man”, “Applied Physics”, and “Eye of the Storm” (S5e1-2, S5e17))

For many people — including me — the Sliders TV series was an introduction to alternate history and the idea of sliding from one reality to another.

Flatland, Alternate Realities and Other Answers

alternate realitiesAlternate realities? Alternate history?

For some people, this is pure fantasy. For others, it’s scary. (I’m not sure that it should be.) For people like me, it’s an adventure.

Sure, I’ll admit that some of this makes me a little uneasy.  I’m fine with the “gooey and prickly” concepts, but if you rattle my reality more than that… well, it’s not just what’s changed. It’s wondering what else is different and I haven’t noticed it yet.

If you’re going to wander down this particular rabbit hole — and take it seriously — you’d better be prepared for some unsettling concepts.  They include alternate history and alternate realities, not as fiction but as fact.

Let’s consider the possibility that our view of reality — the one you’re taught in school — is severely limited. If we rely on our basic five senses, most people can handle the idea of two and three dimensions.

Expand it to four, five, or eleven dimensions and virtual brain freeze is likely.

Even those who work with those concepts often talk in terms of alternate realities when the fact is:  It may be reality, period. But, that’s just semantics and I’m getting ahead of myself in this discussion anyway. It’s a quirky field of study that I’ve been exploring for years.  If — at the beginning — someone had shown me what I’m writing now, I’d have said, “Okay, that person isn’t even making sense.

Before taking this discussion in interesting directions, I’d like to build a foundation.  Fortunately, people like Dr. Fred Wolf have already created entertaining ways to introduce quantum concepts.

Though that video may seem a little simplistic, it’s a fine introduction if you take these concepts to the next, logical step:  What would happen if a fourth dimension impinged on our current, three-dimensional reality?

I don’t mean “What if it’s out there, somewhere?”  I mean “What if it showed up in the basement, the next time you’re doing laundry?”  How would you interpret it?  What label would you place on it? (I’m amused that, in the video, the flatland people immediately ask if the three-dimensional interference is a ghost.)

To understand what’s going on with the Mandela Effect, it’s key to step beyond the easy answer that “it’s all fantasy.”

There is science to support the ideas of alternate history and alternate realities, and — once you get into it — it can be fascinating.

Nelson Mandela Died in Prison?

nelson mandela died in prison?Note: This was the original post that launched this website.  I’ve updated it to include more recent events.

However, if you’re new to this website, remember that this site includes many other articles related to other alternate history events that are widely remembered.  The “Major Memories” page is a good starting point.

Nelson Mandela died in prison, long before his loss on December 5th, 2013.

Many people — perhaps thousands — seem to believe that.

That’s where the title of this website, The Mandela Effect, came from.

See, I thought Nelson Mandela died in prison.  I thought I remembered it clearly, complete with news clips of his funeral, the mourning in South Africa, some rioting in cities, and the heartfelt speech by his widow.

Then, I found out he was still alive.

My reaction was sensible, “Oh, I must have misunderstood something on the news.”

I didn’t think about it again for many years, until — in the VIP suite at Dragon*Con — a member of Security (“Shadow”) casually mentioned that many people “remember” when Nelson Mandela died in prison.

That caught my attention in a hurry.

One thing led to another, and I discovered a large community of people who remember the same Mandela history that I recall.

Others have similar “false” memories.  One of the most recent and prevalent is the death of Billy Graham.  Though some claim that people are confusing that with Mr. Graham’s retirement, or perhaps the televised funeral of Mr. Graham’s wife, those who clearly remember the events disagree heartily.

However, it’s not just deaths.  People have told me about a variety of odd conflicts between their vivid memories and the world they’re currently living in.

During Dragon*Con 2010, someone insisted that he remembered a Star Trek episode that — according to one star of the show — was never filmed.  The person who remembered the alternate episode wasn’t weird or wild-eyed… he was a very normal person, and only referenced the episode as part of a routine conversation.

I was there when he heard that the episode never existed.  He was stunned, and quickly tried to find a logical explanation for his “faulty” memory.

Another quirky “false” memory involves the preview and pre-release of the sequel to the movie, Avatar.

These aren’t simple errors in memory; they seem to be fully-constructed incidents (or sequential events) from the past.  They exceed the normal range of forgetfulness.

Even stranger, other people seem to have identical memories.

This website — and my upcoming book — explore the possibilities of parallel realities, quantum science, real-life “Sliders” experiences, and alternate history.

If you believed that Nelson Mandela died in prison — long before his passing (in this timestream) on 5 December 2013 —  or you have similar memories of a “different” past, you’re not alone.