In discussions with friends, a question has been raised: When someone accepts the idea that the Mandela Effect is real, does this reduce one’s resistance to it? And, does this result in more frequent slides from one reality to another?
Instead of a subconscious effort not to slide, are we mentally “catching the wave” and riding it to the next, cooler, alternate experience?
I’m interested in whether you feel that — since looking at the Mandela Effect concept, and deciding that it might be real — you’re seeing an increasing number of changes.
I don’t mean “Whoa, when did that change?” moments. I mean times when you look at something and know it was different yesterday, or in a time since you stumbled onto the Mandela Effect.
I’m not looking for a list of shifting memories.
Mostly, I’m interested in your theories about what’s going on, and if you’re seeing more changes since you considered the Mandela Effect, and decided it’s not only possible, but okay. To use an old phrase, now that you know about the Mandela Effect, are you happy (or at least somewhat content) to “go with the flow”?
In the next paragraph, Wolf said something that startled me. It confirms something we’ve talked about here at MandelaEffect.com.
“…let me tell you a secret: Some of the remarkable people you meet in life are time travelers. A few of these people know it; the others time travel without realizing it, but they do it just the same. These are the people who appear older than their years or, yes, often enough considerably younger.” [Emphasis added.]
So, how could this work with the Mandela Effect? As I see it, only for very specific, limited memories. Here’s an example.
Let’s say it’s December 1986 and you’re a teenager. You’re aware of turmoil in South Africa, and — in your reality — Nelson Mandela is taking part in another hunger strike where he’s imprisoned. (A side note for those who are looking at patterns related to 2s and 3s: He was prisoner 46664.)
One morning, you go through your bedroom door and — in another reality where it’s December 2013 (but you’re only half-awake as you shovel in a quick breakfast, and you don’t notice some odd changes) — your mother tells you the sad news that Nelson Mandela has died.
Since your mind is on an upcoming exam, you assume Mandela died from the hunger strike.
And then you go back to your bedroom, through the doorway* …and you’re back in 1986.
That day’s exam (at school) is a disaster. You know you did badly. You scramble to earn some extra credits before school vacation, because you really need a good grade in that class.
And, then it’s the holiday season. You forget all about Mandela’s death… until 2010 or so, when a friend says a few people recall Mandela dying in the late 20th century.
Suddenly, that memory — which you think is from 1986 — comes flooding back. You know Mandela died in 1986, because your mother said so, and she was never, ever wrong about that kind of thing.
Could that explain one kind of Mandela Effect?
Maybe. I think it would only work for specific, isolated memories. And, you’d need to be oblivious to the cues that you’re — at least briefly — in a different time.
But, if time travel is as commonplace as Fred Alan Wolf suggests, it’s something to consider.
*I’ve thrown in a doorway reference, because I think it’s possible that the “doorway effect” doesn’t just wipe some of our memories. In some (rare?) cases, it might be the portal to & from parallel realities.
Yes, I know that’s wild speculation, but — for me, anyway — it’s fun to wonder about this. And that’s why I’m sharing it with you.
Let’s pretend the Mandela Effect involves sliding from one reality to another. (The other leading explanation is that we’re each in a holodeck. The third explanation is that selected things — portions of our world, or selected chunks of time — are replaced, at least briefly, now & then.)
But if we’re each (individually or in groups) sliding, what is sliding? Is it our entire body, complete with our consciousness and memories? Is it just our consciousness… or some parts of us but not others?
According to an International Business Times (UK) article, it appears that scientists in China are working on a related experiment: Teleportation of bacteria’s memories… (That link takes you to another website.)
In the past, some comments at this website have raised questions about which parts of us teleport (or “slide”) from one reality to another.
One such comment was in a thread started by Anthony. In a reply, Martin Williams said, “Maybe we don’t physically slide, but our existing consciousness travels to another me, and I only remember the change.. Could it be nothing happens to our other selves, just we jump from body to body over the dimensions. we jump into our own body in an alternate world.”
I’ve looked for past, public comments about physical changes. (Some people have reported, privately, scars moving.) Yes, they’re “just” anecdotes, but they may provide helpful insights.
Jelz talked about a vaccination scar appearing and disappearing. “As a kid, I received a smallpox vaccine scar on my right shoulder. It sometimes disappears when I try to show it to people who don’t have the same.”
Joseph Trevino described changing scars and moving birthmarks, “But recently I realized that my appendicitis scar was considerably fainter and I had a new, darker scar farther back, paralleling it. Also, I used to have three birthmarks (in the shape of a triangle) on my left collarbone- except now its on the right, and has a fourth, smaller mark under the top one. I chalked it up to reflection misinterpretation…”
(His comment is typical of the way most readers look first to logical explanations for such changes.)
Albo talked about a childhood incident involving deep scratches from a cat. However, though Albo has scars from lesser accidents, the wound from the cat seems to have left no scars, though it should have.
(That’s one of the most detailed reports among several talking about childhood accidents that should have left scars, but no evidence remains. And, in casual research, I’ve found nothing to indicate that children scar less easily than young adults.)
Alicia also describes a scar that vanished… along with her family’s memories of the dramatic events that led up to it. “On a personal side of things, my brother was a bit of a crap head, he got into some stuff he shouldn’t have and owed a dealer some money. I was confronted and ended up having a chunk sliced out of my arm in the scuffle. I still have the scar but last Christmas my family all acted shocked and concerned about a scar on my arm that is 7 years old. Not a single one remembering me having to go to the ER or…” (The comment is much longer, but this is the important part, for this discussion.)
ampster commented about serious scars that vanished for no reason , “Also in the summer of 1984 I fell off of a four wheeler and badly burned the back of both of my legs. It left me with rather bad scars on the back of both calves. Or so I thought, until one day in the mid-nineties when I mentioned something about it to my then-boyfriend who was confused, because I had no scars. For about ten years the scars disappeared and reappeared. I haven’t seen them since about 2006. (My parents and I always remember the accident, but apparently the severity switches?)”
Courtney recalls childhood surgery and wonders why there’s no scar now, “I clearly remember lying on an operating table and looking up to see doctors and nurses crowded around me. I believed, vehemently, that I had gotten surgery until I was ten and my mother explained to me that I had never had surgery. I even would have said I had a scar until that day, but there’s no scar.”
So, those six public comments out of 10,000, over five years. That’s not a huge number, but I also can’t claim this site provides an accurate survey of the general public, or even of our readers. And, I’ve never before asked about moving scars, or other unexplained physical marks that might suggest whether bodies slide with us, or not.
(Of course, some people will point out that scars can heal to the point of becoming invisible, or nearly so. Yes, I think we all understand that, and these people have considered the possibility of complete healing, without a trace. If the answer were that simple, they wouldn’t have left a comment here.)
If you have a scar that’s dramatically moved, appeared, or vanished (or some similar, unexplained physical change), I don’t need the entire (or gory) context, just the essential highlights. Share them in comments, below, or use the Contact form.
And, if you have ideas related to whether or not an individual’s consciousness and body “slide” together from one reality to another, share them in comments, below, too.
In that article, the author says, “And physicists only have two to three years before CERN shuts the LHC down for upgrades. If we haven’t found anything by then, Cliff said, it could signal the beginning of the end.” (As I read that, he means the end of this particular research effort.)
Let’s say that’s 2019. That fits the prediction of Mr. French: “… after 2019 this window closes and your pretty much stuck on the earth you vibrate with.”
It’s also a match for John D’s comment: “From what I know, 2015 and 2016 should be fairly low key with odd happenings and occurrences. However from 2017-2019 there will be quite a bit of noticeable glitches. It should again be fairly quiet in 2020. Beyond that my sources are a bit….strained I guess would be the right word.”
So, I’m wondering if much of the Mandela Effect — or our current, heightened awareness of it, at least — is related to CERN’s experiments. And, if the decisions we make right now (referring to the BI topic I linked to, yesterday) and through the end of 2018, determine which reality we’ll be “pretty much stuck on,” per Mr. French.
With over 60 points to plot on a map, I’d hoped to see some strong patterns from our first geographic survey. Instead, while I saw a few surprises, nothing seemed conclusive at first glance.
Of course, these early map results rely on accurate reports by those who left comments, and accurate results from the mapmakers at GPS Visualizer. In addition, this is a very small sampling and doesn’t include reports from the “moving” geography sections of this site.
Here’s the world map, with one red dot per reported location from the survey:
Almost immediately, two vertical lines stand out.
The first goes from about 6 km WSW of Fay, France (SW of Paris) to about 220 km west of Kidal, Mali. That line is extraordinarily straight. It’s shown on the map to the right. (Click map to see it much larger.)
The second surprisingly straight, vertical line goes from a point about 15 km northeast of Surrey, near Vancouver, Canada, to several points near Santa Cruz, California (USA).
That map is on the left. (Click map to see it larger).
One location along that line was particularly surprising. On the map, it’s the northernmost red dot in California.
When I expanded the map to see local details, the location is slightly south of Yreka, California. (It’s pronounced “why-REEK-uh.”)
In that part of California, I’d expected to see a report or two nearer to Mt. Shasta, which has a long history of paranormal activity, including Native American lore and Frederick Spenser Oliver’s novel, A Dweller On Two Planets.
However, the line through northern California is considerably west of Mt. Shasta. That’s disappointing, but I’ve never explored Mt. Shasta to confirm its activity.
Several other lines cross the United States. On their own, they’re inconclusive.
Here’s the US-Canada Map. (Click map to see it larger.)
For me to take any of these lines seriously, I’d need more compelling evidence. Also, from my own ley line studies: when one genuinely anomalous line crosses a second one, their intersection is usually very active. With the possible exception of the X near Phoenix, Arizona, nothing seems promising… yet.
Line-by-line US/Canada Map
At a quick glance — not enough to reach reliable conclusions (so take this summary with a grain of salt) — here’s what I see:
Using dots on this map to construct a few lines, the most promising one (Line #2) passes through Arizona. Even that isn’t impressive, though it includes Portland, Las Vegas, and Phoenix, and seems to pass through Area 51. Due its the Las Vegas and Area 51 connections, I’ll explore this line further.
Line #1 includes the “hot spot” near Santa Cruz, plus Los Angeles and San Diego. I haven’t spent much time in Santa Cruz, and nothing about Los Angeles would surprise me, but San Diego has always seemed fairly benign.
Line #3 connects Denver and multiple spots in Arizona, but entirely misses some of the most legendary (anomalous) locations in South Dakota.
Line #4 (turquoise) connects several Canadian locations I’ve studied. It continues through Detroit, a somewhat turbulent city, and then approaches El Paso (TX), which no one reported. So, that line has some potential at its northernmost points, but — so far — that’s all.
Line #5 goes through Atlanta (GA), Nashville (TN), and Marshalltown (IA). I need to compare it to my ley line maps of Georgia.
Line #6 tracks through Vermont, New York City, and eastern New Jersey. Due to the density of population along much of the line, it’s difficult to separate geography from history, but I’ve studied many locations along that line; it could be useful.
At the moment, I feel that the points and lines indicate where site visitors are or have been, and that’s all.
I was hoping for clearer results.
Of course, the sampling was tiny. It’s too early to close the door on geography or even ley lines helping us understand (or even predict) the Mandela Effect.
Also, I didn’t plot all possible lines. For example, a line connecting Brussels (Belgium) to a point slightly west of Port Macquarie (Australia) might offer some insights.
If you see data or “coincidences” I missed, or if you pursue this and uncover anything helpful, leave a comment. (Mike H., I’m especially interested in how these lines relate — or don’t — to your geography patterns.)
This week — once again, for fun — let’s try a different kind of survey. This time, it’s about location. I’m looking for geographic patterns.
Here’s what to do:
Remember when you first realized that one of your memories didn’t match the current reality. It could be this year, last year, or even a decade ago. (This may not be where you are now. It’s where you were when you realized you weren’t “just confused” and your memory really was different.)
So far, so good! Finally, copy the latitude & longitude from that screen, and paste it into this thread as a comment. That’s it… all you need to do.
If you’ve had multiple “ah-ha!” moments like this, it’s okay to enter all of them. The more coordinates we can work with, the better.
Here’s my example: When I first realized that my odd memory of Mandela’s death in prison wasn’t unique, I was in Atlanta, GA (USA). That conversation was in the “green room” of Dragon Con, at the Hyatt in downtown Atlanta, GA, USA.
According to Google, that’s Latitude: 33.761621 | Longitude: -84.386249 <– If I were leaving a comment, that’s the only information I’d leave.
Once we’ve collected a few dozen locations, I’ll start plotting them on a map, looking for patterns. (Specifically, I’m likely to start with ley lines, in “connect the dots” style.)
SURVEY IS NOW CLOSED. We have 61 locations to work with. A map is being constructed, right now.
Let’s have some fun. Let’s see if our birth dates point to anything odd. And, to analyze that, I’d like to work with numerology… sort of.
(Remember, this is just for fun. It’s the weekend, and I’m in the mood for a somewhat flippant research approach. I’m not saying that I take numerology seriously, or that you should delve into it, or anything like that. I’d also like to avoid deep numerological discussions — at least until we see if any patterns emerge. )
Important: I do not want your actual birth date. Please don’t post that.
Instead, I’m looking for the single digit your birth date adds up to, condensed according to routine numerology.
Let’s say you were born 10/10/1970. You’d add the numbers, across: 1+0+1+0+1+9+7+0 = 19.
Then, you’d keep reducing the number to reach a single digit. So, working with 19, you’d figure 1+9 = 10. And 1+0 = 1.
So, your birth date — in single-digit numerology — would be a 1. That’s what you’d post in your comment: Just “My birth date is a 1.”
However, some forms of numerology take the numbers 11, 22, and 33 seriously. They call them “master numbers.” (That doesn’t apply to 44, 55, etc.)
So, if something sequential in your birth date adds up to 11, 22, or 33, or it’s part of your birth date, please post that… in addition to the reduced (single digit) number.
(And yes, I am mindful that 22 could bring us back to the Sept 22/23 issue. It’s one reason I’m running this survey: in case the actual numbers are significant/markers.)
So, if you were born on 11/11/2001, that would be 1+1+1+1+2+0+0+1 = 7. You’d post the number 7 as your comment. However, you’d also mention that your birth date includes two sequential 11s; they add up to 22.
Mostly, I’m looking for very short comments, just sharing your birth date number. (This survey is only for those who have at least one alternate memory. If you think the Mandela Effect is fascinating — or ridiculous — and you have no alternate memories, this survey isn’t for you.)
However, it might help if you also tell us whether you have just one Mandela Effect memory, a few of them, or many alternate memories. (Please do not list them all. I’d like this thread to be easy to scroll through.)
My birth date…? It adds up to 3. (No 11s, 22s, or 33s in the process.) And I have several Mandela Effect memories.
How long have people been traveling across realities? Are Mandela Effect concepts strewn throughout folklore, legends, and literature?
I believe so, and some are related to mirrors.
Mirrors as Portals in Folklore and Fiction
In Alice in Wonderland, and Through the Looking-Glass, the title character accesses an alternate reality by moving through a mirror (looking-glass) as the entry point. (Previously, she’d journeyed through a rabbit hole.)
However, author Lewis Carroll wasn’t the first (or last) to speculate about mirrors and reflective surfaces.
In folklore, water — smooth, reflective lakes and ponds, as well as the sea — has often hidden amazing realms not known in this reality. From Greek and Roman legends to Arthurian tales (the Lady of the Lake, and more), we’re reminded of alternate worlds as close as a reflection.
On the other side of the world, in the Asian art of feng shui and interior design, mirrors may “extend space” far beyond their physical depth in this reality.
In some traditions, people cover mirrors after a death in the home, so the departing spirit won’t be trapped inside the mirror.
Many haunted locations — including The Myrtles Plantation (Louisiana, USA) and the Driskill Hotel (Texas, USA) — have ghostly mirrors, as well.
The one in the main hallway at The Myrtles is like many of its counterparts, with recurring handprints (from the back) that returns no matter how often they clean, resurface, or even replace it. Also, a picture of me standing near that mirror — photographed by researcher Margaret Byl — showed a reflection with a chandelier that wasn’t there at the time.
The Driskill Hotel’s famous “Maximilian” mirrors are backed with diamond dust, not just silver or silver-colored paint. The mirrors face each other, in pairs, and many people have reported seeing alternate, similar worlds in them. (If you’re looking for ghost stories related to those mirrors, that’s the tip of the iceberg, but a discussion would take us off-topic.)
If you can stand the commercials and the silly sound effects in a video clip, “Ghost Adventures” star Zak Bagans talks about mirrors and matrixing. [Link.] It’s a good, short clip, with a skeptical slant. However, I’m not sure Zak was aware that the mirror he’s pointing at — the famous one at The Myrtles — was installed in 1980. It looks old, but it’s not from an era — usually 19th century or earlier — so common to mirrors with ghost stories.
And then there are scrying mirrors — used to see into (or contact) “the other side” or foretell the future — that have black glass, not silver. According to legend, even Nostradamus used one. So, the portal concept isn’t limited to mirrors with easy-to-see reflections.
If you like creepy mirror stories involving alternate realities, the horror movie, Mirrors, is one among many that exploit this concept.
My point isn’t about mirrors and whether some are portals to alternate realities. (I’m not convinced that they are, but I won’t wholly reject the concept, either.)
Instead, I’m talking about the long-held idea that an alternate reality is almost always nearby, and might be “hiding in plain sight.”
In other words, I don’t think the Mandela Effect is new. It didn’t pop up yesterday, or 10 years ago, and I certainly didn’t invent it. (Shadow and I just gave it a name with a reference to recent history.)
In fact, if you study folklore, you’ll see that many tales describe travel between realities. Some are clearer than others.
Changelings are part of a particularly dark concept from the past, in which faeries have swapped places with humans. The faerie looks (mostly) like the human he or she replaced, and the human has been sent to the world the faerie is from, as a replacement in that world or reality.
In some ancient traditions, shamans are able to access alternate realms, worlds, or realities at will. However, most contemporary tales talk about each shaman being granted passage to just one spiritual realm, not free travel across all of them.
The Rev. Mr. Robert Kirk (1644 – ?), author of “The Secret Commonwealth,” wrote about visiting an alternate reality. He described it as a faerie world, and the topic has fascinated folklorists and others, for centuries. I’ve put a question mark at his death date because many believe he left his tired body on a hillside, and actually slid back into the reality he’d been talking about for many years.
What interests me about Kirk’s story isn’t just the world he described. It’s that something in his story resonates so deeply with people, that — despite at least hundreds of similar tales — modern-day scholars still argue whether Kirk’s work was fiction or nonfiction. (And then there are the astonishing number of people who insist that the world of Avatar is real, but that’s another topic for another day.)
Then there are tales of doppelgangers, with two of the same person showing up in the same reality. According to some folklore, seeing a doppelganger predicts that one of them (usually the one whose home seems to be in that reality) will die. Is that because two of the “same” person in one reality is a glitch, and the simplest solution is to delete one? I’m not sure, but it’s worth considering.
Are these fictional accounts popular because, at times, we’d like to escape our current reality? Or, does the concept of alternate realms — whether actual worlds or holodeck creations — resonate with us because we know alternate realities exist… and we’ve been there?
I believe the Mandela Effect isn’t new. I think it’s been an issue for centuries, perhaps as far back as the start of recorded history, or even earlier.
However, I think past generations and cultures explained alternate realities in terms of magick, shamanic travel, or even faeries.
The idea of a mirror as a portal is just one example, but it’s one that seems to linger. Maybe there is something unusual about mirrors, and maybe some do show us another world.
About 5% to 10% of the population have tinnitus, but over 20% of Mandela Effect visitors reported it in a recent poll. Was that a one-time anomaly, or should we look at this more closely?
When I asked this question, earlier, I didn’t make the focus clear. Along with many great comments and insights, some conversations took on medical diagnostic and self-help overtones. Others added several other physical complaints they suffer from, and — soon — discussions were less about Mandela Effect data, and more about health issues.
So, this article is a reboot. Same topic, but a more narrow focus: I’m looking for anything that directly correlates tinnitus and alternate memories.